nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

Here's the deal. Global warming is essentially based upon computer simulations. What do these simulations say if we dont' tell them that CO2 is a green house gas? What do they say if we leave out the theoretical concept of CO2 causing warming??

ImLogicallyRight

Good question nwtk2007. They can't or it would show how wrong they are.


I've been trying to tell others, on sites like this and in person, that the information I've read from scientists and graphs shows that CO2 follows global warming and doesn't lead it. It just isn't a green house gas except that it helps vegetation in the green house grow better.

Think about it. Graphs show that we are in a warming cycle since the last ice age and are nearing historical peaks as would be normal and within expected graph projections.

As for CO2, as we warm, more CO2 enters the atmosphere from the thawing of permafrost. an after effect. This in turn provides for more food for plants and the greening of the earth further north. Growing seasons go further north and last longer.

Eventually we will enter another cooling cycle as per earth's orbit and sun cycles and head for another ice age. It may start next year or five, ten, fifty years. But it will happen. More ice will form and the poles will freeze even more, and the max growing seasons will again drift south and water tables will shrink.

It is just earth living through its normal cycles. We simply aren't causing a thing. Get over it and focus on some reality.

ImLogicallyRight

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

These explanations make way to much sense for your average lib. You just drove a stake in their religion. That’s not allowed int their world

Seth

Which is one reason why tropical climates are so fertile: the hot atmosphere creates C02, the C02 makes things grow bigger, greener and more plentifully.

Even in grammar school we knew that plant life takes in C02 and expels oxygen, so the flora benefit and we, along with the fauna, benefit as well.

It's a crying shame that pre-adolescents of my generation knew more about those basic scientific facts than many college grads of today.

The far left have really downgraded our education system since they hijacked it, haven't they?

Much of this can be explained by what ultra-leftist NYC schools chancellor Richard Carranza is up to, which is the new SOP for the left's intentions for our country's children's and young adults' "educations:"

https://nypost.com/2019/07/23/forget-reading-and-math-carranza-wants-focus-on-racial-privilege-activism/

EconomistDon

I get tired of arguing these points with braindead alarmists. They claim that 97 percent of scientists support anthropogenic warming, but that number is bogus. It was concocted by a team of 12 scientists who blog under the collective name of Skeptical Science. I can provide more details on that if anybody is interested. Here are two videos from REAL scientists who lay out the honest facts about global warming. They are quite long, but worth the listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZlICdawHRA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-9UlF8hkhs

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Maybe go outside and do some real time observation. Heard about Europe's record breaking heat wave? Heard about the wildfires in the ARCTIC?

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

I live in Texas and don't act all but hurt when temps hit 90. Lol. That being said, there is some warm "weather."

It seems the ice age we are currently in is trending towards the norm of very little ice world wide which, historically, is about 2/3 of the time.

Seth

What part of "the planet has gone through warming and cooling cycles since long before even the horse and buggy days" don't you understand?

Doesn't it ever occur to you that there is a political agenda behind a cycle suddenly being "mankind's doing?"

What was it throughout the rest of the planet's history? Some brontosaurus's fault, perhaps? Or maybe pterodactyl flatulence? I know! "Gaya" knew Trump would one day be president, and so made it all his fault in advance.

Of course, that's it!

JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida

LOL. So what snowflake. Gonna melt. What’s your brilliant idea to fix this supposed problem?

JoyV

I recently read and article which included the claim that the experts say one third of the CO2 are from motor vehicle emissions. Correct me if I'm wrong, but since when have motor vehicles emitted CO2?

JoyV

Correct with one added piece of info, the ice caps HAVE begun to expand, global temperature averages are down, Pacific Ocean temperature monitoring devices from the US to Japan show about a 1% down turn in ocean temps, and there has been recent minor shortening of growing seasons in many places on the globe. Generally this shortening of the growing season is not enough to make a difference for agriculture. So we are in a cooling phase already, and might already be in the long term cooling phase.

JoyV

Yes I've "heard" about Europes record breaking heat wave. But if you actually check temperatures against the records, you'll find it is really France's record breaking heat wave. Only one other European country has had temps meet the record. That is Greece. The rest of Europe has had temperatures slightly BELOW their norm.

As for Arctic fires, they are common between May to October. The news has taken a normal yearly occurrence and used it to create fear to validate the global warming narrative.

JoyV

archie bunker Loc: Texas

We all have to get electric cars to fix this problem. That is the only solution for our future.

Dinty

If you want some scientific reading on [Global Warming], please read Dark Winter by John L. Casey. A good read on warm and cold cycles.