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Jul 22, 2019 16:01:27   #
son of witless
 
I wonder how many Norwegian street gangs there are in the United States ? Maybe you would like to speculate ?

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Jul 22, 2019 18:40:17   #
JediKnight
 
son of witless wrote:
You are locked on RACIST. That is your problem. Tell me something ? How many immigrants do you want into America ? How many is too many ? You do realize that immigrants need to be absorbed into the American economy ? Or maybe you don't realize that. So again, how many is too many ?

And are all immigrants created equal ? Answer me. Do you think that a person from a really poor area, with no education, can contribute to American Society the same as a highly skilled and highly educated person ? Do you think that person with no skills and no education is more likely to be a burden on their adopted country than the person with skills and education who comes from an advanced nation ?

How about 100,000 or one million immigrants ? Which country do you want sending one million of their citizens to America, Norway or Kyrgyzstan ?

How many Norwegians have blown up the Boston Marathon ????????????????????????????????????????
You are locked on RACIST. That is your problem. Te... (show quote)


If I was locked on racism then it would be those who introduced and perpetuate racism to blame- I for one am not racist. However, what you see as 'me being locked on racism' is no more than a courageous man's attempts to enlighten those who either don't know, can't see, or don't care.

With the millions and millions of vacant square miles here in America, I don't think you or I need to worry that we can import "too many" immigrants -not in our life time. Do you have any idea just how large this country actually is?


Yes, to me all immigrants are created equal...just as all men are created equal. Those highly educated and skilled people you spoke of were not born that way. They too were a "burden on society" until they were taught and trained. In the meantime, we found ways to support them didn't we?

Take the shackles off of immigration and you will have millions of hungry, eager to work, tax payers in the making. You will have new avenues of creativity and innovation. You will have a treasury bursting at the seams from all the tax dollars, and you will have a nation of diverse people all offering meaningful and valuable cultural beauty like never before seen.

No, I don't have a problem with a fair and just system that regulates the number of immigrants we let in. Yes, there should be some qualifying aspects. What we currently have under this administration is not "immigration" but segregation....keep the Mexicans out....who's next, and when does it end? America will never be "white" again - those days are long gone forever. Look again at the words you posted...….you seem to be the one stuck on "racism." sad.

I can't help but wondering.....if all those 'immigrants' were blond haired, blue-eyed white people, would your feelings about immigrants be the same? Really, if they were somehow separated from the whites in America - say like back during the civil war, and we just discovered last year that they wanted to all move here....what would your response be? You can be honest....I promise not to tell anyone.

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Jul 22, 2019 19:47:38   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
If I was locked on racism then it would be those who introduced and perpetuate racism to blame- I for one am not racist. However, what you see as 'me being locked on racism' is no more than a courageous man's attempts to enlighten those who either don't know, can't see, or don't care.

With the millions and millions of vacant square miles here in America, I don't think you or I need to worry that we can import "too many" immigrants -not in our life time. Do you have any idea just how large this country actually is?


Yes, to me all immigrants are created equal...just as all men are created equal. Those highly educated and skilled people you spoke of were not born that way. They too were a "burden on society" until they were taught and trained. In the meantime, we found ways to support them didn't we?

Take the shackles off of immigration and you will have millions of hungry, eager to work, tax payers in the making. You will have new avenues of creativity and innovation. You will have a treasury bursting at the seams from all the tax dollars, and you will have a nation of diverse people all offering meaningful and valuable cultural beauty like never before seen.

No, I don't have a problem with a fair and just system that regulates the number of immigrants we let in. Yes, there should be some qualifying aspects. What we currently have under this administration is not "immigration" but segregation....keep the Mexicans out....who's next, and when does it end? America will never be "white" again - those days are long gone forever. Look again at the words you posted...….you seem to be the one stuck on "racism." sad.

I can't help but wondering.....if all those 'immigrants' were blond haired, blue-eyed white people, would your feelings about immigrants be the same? Really, if they were somehow separated from the whites in America - say like back during the civil war, and we just discovered last year that they wanted to all move here....what would your response be? You can be honest....I promise not to tell anyone.
If I was locked on racism then it would be those w... (show quote)


Racism is like a smelly old fart; he who smelt it, dealt it! In other words those who label others racists over and over again are the true racists.

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Jul 22, 2019 20:02:27   #
son of witless
 
JediKnight wrote:
If I was locked on racism then it would be those who introduced and perpetuate racism to blame- I for one am not racist. However, what you see as 'me being locked on racism' is no more than a courageous man's attempts to enlighten those who either don't know, can't see, or don't care.

With the millions and millions of vacant square miles here in America, I don't think you or I need to worry that we can import "too many" immigrants -not in our life time. Do you have any idea just how large this country actually is?


Yes, to me all immigrants are created equal...just as all men are created equal. Those highly educated and skilled people you spoke of were not born that way. They too were a "burden on society" until they were taught and trained. In the meantime, we found ways to support them didn't we?

Take the shackles off of immigration and you will have millions of hungry, eager to work, tax payers in the making. You will have new avenues of creativity and innovation. You will have a treasury bursting at the seams from all the tax dollars, and you will have a nation of diverse people all offering meaningful and valuable cultural beauty like never before seen.

No, I don't have a problem with a fair and just system that regulates the number of immigrants we let in. Yes, there should be some qualifying aspects. What we currently have under this administration is not "immigration" but segregation....keep the Mexicans out....who's next, and when does it end? America will never be "white" again - those days are long gone forever. Look again at the words you posted...….you seem to be the one stuck on "racism." sad.

I can't help but wondering.....if all those 'immigrants' were blond haired, blue-eyed white people, would your feelings about immigrants be the same? Really, if they were somehow separated from the whites in America - say like back during the civil war, and we just discovered last year that they wanted to all move here....what would your response be? You can be honest....I promise not to tell anyone.
If I was locked on racism then it would be those w... (show quote)


So I asked this question " You do realize that immigrants need to be absorbed into the American economy ? Or maybe you don't realize that. So again, how many is too many ? "

And your answer is " With the millions and millions of vacant square miles here in America, I don't think you or I need to worry that we can import "too many" immigrants -not in our life time. Do you have any idea just how large this country actually is? "

Wow. I am knocked right off of my chair onto the floor so hard that my buttocks hurt. I guess you must be a city boy. One of the great things about America is it's huge open spaces. I guess you spend no time out in the great outdoors. I grew up in a city. Then I moved to a rural area where I could hunt and fish and kayak and canoe and cross country ski.

All of my best hunting areas now have houses on them. The fishing now sucks and if I want to go to my local lake to canoe, I had better not go on a weekend because it sucks with crowds. WTF would anyone want to fill up all of the open spaces with people ? I am sorry, I do not understand why you want to turn my beautiful country into India and China. I suppose you have your reasons. Maybe people are more environmentally friendly than open fields and forests. Maybe with all of this left wing technology and magic solar panels 2 Billion People will emit less carbon than 330 Million.

You have made me happy that I am old. i do not want to be around when you turn the rest of America into a manure pile like California has become.

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Jul 23, 2019 11:23:44   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Racism is like a smelly old fart; he who smelt it, dealt it! In other words those who label others racists over and over again are the true racists.


That has to be the weakest and most ignorant cop out on the issue that I have heard since the 6th grade. Since "racism" in this country goes back to the days of slavery - are we correct in saying that "it was the white man who was first racist and introduced the concept to this country?"

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Jul 23, 2019 12:36:31   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
That has to be the weakest and most ignorant cop out on the issue that I have heard since the 6th grade. Since "racism" in this country goes back to the days of slavery - are we correct in saying that "it was the white man who was first racist and introduced the concept to this country?"


If you think racism was invented in the USA you are very sadly mistaken. Racism has been with man in every single place and generation on the planet since man had the least bit of intelligence. In today's US, it is the claim of racism which is the true cop out! For the leftists it is the only argument they have against those who disagree with their idiocy! When faced with opposition, instead of providing a logical argument to the opposition to even begin to get consideration from the opposition, they simply cry racism and declare that they will, somehow, force their ideas upon the opposition. Thus they become the "presidents nightmare." Idiots!

They need to figure out that using that tactic against Trump will only make him attack them back meaner and harder! He is so far over their heads when it comes to a fight. He, truly, is simply too much for them.

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Jul 23, 2019 14:41:54   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
If you think racism was invented in the USA you are very sadly mistaken. Racism has been with man in every single place and generation on the planet since man had the least bit of intelligence. In today's US, it is the claim of racism which is the true cop out! For the leftists it is the only argument they have against those who disagree with their idiocy! When faced with opposition, instead of providing a logical argument to the opposition to even begin to get consideration from the opposition, they simply cry racism and declare that they will, somehow, force their ideas upon the opposition. Thus they become the "presidents nightmare." Idiots!

They need to figure out that using that tactic against Trump will only make him attack them back meaner and harder! He is so far over their heads when it comes to a fight. He, truly, is simply too much for them.
If you think racism was invented in the USA you ar... (show quote)


If you take off your "superior being" shades and read my post correctly - you would know that I didn't say racism started in this country. I said "white men introduced racism since the country's inception." Your weak attempt to "kill the messenger" by claiming it is not a legitimate argument is the coward's copout to not dealing with truth -and quite frankly, its well past time to put that puppy to rest. Anyone with the sense God gave a cockroach knows that racism in this country was perpetrated by the white race upon other races as a form of control and (fake) superiority. The fact that even today, you refuse to admit the errors of your fore-fathers is proof positive that racism is alive and well. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to deny it and spin it. Shame on you! And regarding the fake president - if he is so smart - why did he sue Wharton to keep his grades secret? If he is such a stable genius, why does he continue to make an idiot of himself in front of other world leaders? If he is such a great diplomatic businessman, why is Little Kim laughing at us as he continues to build nuclear missiles? You are delusional, sad, and sorry.

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Jul 23, 2019 19:10:15   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
If you take off your "superior being" shades and read my post correctly - you would know that I didn't say racism started in this country. I said "white men introduced racism since the country's inception." Your weak attempt to "kill the messenger" by claiming it is not a legitimate argument is the coward's copout to not dealing with truth -and quite frankly, its well past time to put that puppy to rest. Anyone with the sense God gave a cockroach knows that racism in this country was perpetrated by the white race upon other races as a form of control and (fake) superiority. The fact that even today, you refuse to admit the errors of your fore-fathers is proof positive that racism is alive and well. You should be ashamed of yourself for trying to deny it and spin it. Shame on you! And regarding the fake president - if he is so smart - why did he sue Wharton to keep his grades secret? If he is such a stable genius, why does he continue to make an idiot of himself in front of other world leaders? If he is such a great diplomatic businessman, why is Little Kim laughing at us as he continues to build nuclear missiles? You are delusional, sad, and sorry.
If you take off your "superior being" sh... (show quote)


"Since "racism" in this country goes back to the days of slavery - are we correct in saying that "it was the white man who was first racist and introduced the concept to this country?"

This is what you said which you now misrepresent. You claim that the white man was the first racist AND introduced it to this country. t\That implies that the white man invented it elsewhere and brought it in with him. The history of slavery shows fairly clearly that the "white man" has been involved in it minimally compaired to all teh other races of the world. Shame on you for not knowing that.

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Jul 24, 2019 13:42:22   #
JediKnight
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
"Since "racism" in this country goes back to the days of slavery - are we correct in saying that "it was the white man who was first racist and introduced the concept to this country?"

This is what you said which you now misrepresent. You claim that the white man was the first racist AND introduced it to this country. t\That implies that the white man invented it elsewhere and brought it in with him. The history of slavery shows fairly clearly that the "white man" has been involved in it minimally compaired to all teh other races of the world. Shame on you for not knowing that.
"Since "racism" in this country goe... (show quote)


You guys are so bent on trying to find flaws that you don't comprehend what you read! Look again at the second part of my first sentence above...."are we correct in saying...." is not the same "as saying" is it? Nwt - whether the white man was involved in slavery "minimally" is not the issue. The issue is that the white man allowed his racist viewpoint (and fear of hard honest work) to enslave a whole group of people who had done nothing to them. In the past, slavery was mostly the result of "losing a war" or something on that level. The enslavement of the African by Americans was spurned by greed and a base evil to rule over something they feared. At any rate, whether minimally or wholeheartedly, they were wrong to do it, and even more wrong to perpetuate it, and ultimately wrong to go to war over it. Even so, they will never admit to their errors, and even today they still try to white-wash it. Some even go as far as to claim "it wasn't that bad" or "it was necessary" -if they don't repent there's a special place in Hell for them. I hope you're not in that group, but that's your choice. I would suggest you do some serious soul-searching and self reflection because time is running out.

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Jul 24, 2019 14:53:19   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
JediKnight wrote:
You guys are so bent on trying to find flaws that you don't comprehend what you read! Look again at the second part of my first sentence above...."are we correct in saying...." is not the same "as saying" is it? Nwt - whether the white man was involved in slavery "minimally" is not the issue. The issue is that the white man allowed his racist viewpoint (and fear of hard honest work) to enslave a whole group of people who had done nothing to them. In the past, slavery was mostly the result of "losing a war" or something on that level. The enslavement of the African by Americans was spurned by greed and a base evil to rule over something they feared. At any rate, whether minimally or wholeheartedly, they were wrong to do it, and even more wrong to perpetuate it, and ultimately wrong to go to war over it. Even so, they will never admit to their errors, and even today they still try to white-wash it. Some even go as far as to claim "it wasn't that bad" or "it was necessary" -if they don't repent there's a special place in Hell for them. I hope you're not in that group, but that's your choice. I would suggest you do some serious soul-searching and self reflection because time is running out.
You guys are so bent on trying to find flaws that ... (show quote)


MODERN-DAY SLAVERY BY THE NUMBERS
Facts & Trends - February 7, 2019
OVER 40 MILLION PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED
https://factsandtrends.net/2019/02/07/modern-day-slavery-by-the-numbers/

Over 400,000 people living in 'modern slavery' in US, report finds
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/us-modern-slavery-report-global-slavery-index

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Jul 24, 2019 15:18:53   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
JediKnight wrote:
You guys are so bent on trying to find flaws that you don't comprehend what you read! Look again at the second part of my first sentence above...."are we correct in saying...." is not the same "as saying" is it? Nwt - whether the white man was involved in slavery "minimally" is not the issue. The issue is that the white man allowed his racist viewpoint (and fear of hard honest work) to enslave a whole group of people who had done nothing to them. In the past, slavery was mostly the result of "losing a war" or something on that level. The enslavement of the African by Americans was spurned by greed and a base evil to rule over something they feared. At any rate, whether minimally or wholeheartedly, they were wrong to do it, and even more wrong to perpetuate it, and ultimately wrong to go to war over it. Even so, they will never admit to their errors, and even today they still try to white-wash it. Some even go as far as to claim "it wasn't that bad" or "it was necessary" -if they don't repent there's a special place in Hell for them. I hope you're not in that group, but that's your choice. I would suggest you do some serious soul-searching and self reflection because time is running out.
You guys are so bent on trying to find flaws that ... (show quote)


Again you misrepresent the white man. More blacks have been enslaved by blacks than by the white man, by orders of magnitude even. The black man practically invented the slavery of the black man, and that is a fact! So stop it with the "white man" BS. It's racist, in and of itself, and ignores the truth of the history of slavery.

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Jul 24, 2019 15:22:33   #
JediKnight
 
America 1 wrote:
MODERN-DAY SLAVERY BY THE NUMBERS
Facts & Trends - February 7, 2019
OVER 40 MILLION PEOPLE ARE AFFECTED
https://factsandtrends.net/2019/02/07/modern-day-slavery-by-the-numbers/

Over 400,000 people living in 'modern slavery' in US, report finds
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/us-modern-slavery-report-global-slavery-index


Thank you for proving that slavery still exists in this modern age. sad.

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