What is the definition of Racism? (Page 8): A smart person listens the first time someone tells them who they are. A wise person recognizes and remembers next time they see them coming.

Singularity

debeda wrote:

I get that. But we also have self awareness. My dad was an SOB. He would hit us, push us , hold us underwater randomly for fun. One day when I was about 12 I was doing dishes when he came in. He would often rap us in the back of the head with a big heavy ring he wore to make lumps. So when he walked past i flinched. A bell went off in my head, like "why am I flinching, he's the weak bully." And I became aware of my actions around him. I was still wary, but no longer prey.

A smart person listens the first time someone tells them who they are. A wise person recognizes and remembers next time they see them coming.

debeda

Singularity wrote:

A smart person listens the first time someone tells them who they are. A wise person recognizes and remembers next time they see them coming.

Yeah.... I was talking more about SELF awareness, but that's a good saying

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

Singularity wrote:

I only have two hands. Make your own damn sandwich... (show quote)

Not Hate baiter... I have never seen hate from President Trump... I stated that he 'Doesn't Suffer Fools Gladly.

Not Hate, he is a bussinessman, not having patience with incompetence.

Your continued attacks on him have no factuual basis... only your bigoted perception of him.

As for ignoring a lot of what you write, you seem to be all over the place. Your lack of attention makes following you impossible because you are always ignorning an opposing arguement while insisting that your arguements are factual (Stacking the Deck.)

Trump is not a Racist...

Singularity

Ferrous wrote:

Not Hate baiter... I have never seen hate from Pre... (show quote)

I can't be made accountable for your problems with attention span, nor your ignorance of facts in evidence and especially not your inability to grasp the rudiments of elementary logic.

You are a grown up. You can wipe your own bottom. Metaphorically.

Or, not.

Your choice.

Singularity

debeda wrote:

Yeah.... I was talking more about SELF awareness, but that's a good saying

Understood. I was commenting in regards to situational awareness.

Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA

Singularity wrote:

I can't be made accountable for your problems with attention span, nor your ignorance of facts in evidence and especially not your inability to grasp the rudiments of elementary logic.

You are a grown up. You can wipe your own bottom. Metaphorically.

Or, not.

Your choice.

How cute... No factual answers for the tripe you spew and then resorting to Ad Hominem attacks to sound oh so superior... pathetic

At least you were wrong in the pronunciation of Semitic… Both Sa-mitic and Sa-metic are correct.

Radiance3

debeda wrote:

It's called empathy, which is simply being able to reach out your emotions and feel. I bet little kids and animals are drawn to you all the time

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That happened recently, here's an embarrassing situation. While waiting at a room for my car's oil change, a guy with a bulldog came in. The dog came close and jumped right on my lap and licked my face. I did not know them. The owner was so embarrassed and apologized. Secretly, I kind of enjoy the cuddly dog. Strange behavior.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

Ferrous wrote:

Then the Progressives are Bigots, thinking that their Way is Best. A "bigot discriminates on the basis of his personal opinion, which can include race, gender, religion or beliefs produced by their own personal life experiences"

What is it called if you just don't like a person's views or character, and you say things against their character or view points?

I thought a bigot was a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions. Disliking a person or their view point is not bigoted if you don't like the idea, or view point. Is it really?

Where is freedom of thought? Where is freedom to disagree? If action of discrimination or prejudice action is taken then that is intolerance, which can lead towards racism but just to disagree is not bigoted or racism.

I think we all need to reevaluate, our decorum on communication. Diversity of thought is not necessarily agreement, sometimes it is disagreement..

If Trump is guilty of racism then his enemies are just as guilty. Therefore Shakespeare's words, "all is fair in love and war" holds true. Or am I misreading the situation?

debeda

Radiance3 wrote:

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That happened recently, here's an embarrassing situation. While waiting at a room for my car's oil change, a guy with a bulldog came in. The dog came close and jumped right on my lap and licked my face. I did not know them. The owner was so embarrassed and apologized. Secretly, I kind of enjoy the cuddly dog. Strange behavior.

Nope. Typical of what happens to extremely empathetic people

debeda

Ranger7374 wrote:

What is it called if you just don't like a person'... (show quote)

We all have our things. I would be considered a bigot about muslims (as a theocratic cult) and about abortion pushers. I have a visceral antipathy toward them. Same with pedophiles and child abusers. No excuse or forgiveness for that, in my opinion. So I am a bigot, I guess. What one sees as a reasonable thing, another sees as bigotry I suppose.

Ranger7374 Loc: Arizona, 40 miles from the border in the DMZ

debeda wrote:

We all have our things. I would be considered a bigot about muslims (as a theocratic cult) and about abortion pushers. I have a visceral antipathy toward them. Same with pedophiles and child abusers. No excuse or forgiveness for that, in my opinion. So I am a bigot, I guess. What one sees as a reasonable thing, another sees as bigotry I suppose.

Then it cheapens the term now doesn't it then....that is both racism and bigotry?

But then again doesn't it punish free thought? For if I am an undesirable word( racist, bigot) for just disagreeing with the majority view point, then doesn't it make the majority view point's reaction a bigot or racist too?

Singularity

Ferrous wrote:

How cute... No factual answers for the tripe you spew and then resorting to Ad Hominem attacks to sound oh so superior... pathetic

At least you were wrong in the pronunciation of Semitic… Both Sa-mitic and Sa-metic are correct.

https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/385449/why-do-some-people-pronounce-antisemitic-as-antisimetic

I was not in error, I simply questioned the pronunciation. You provided an answer which I did not find satisfactory or complete.

Fixed it. See link. Obviously you are not any kind of expert on "semitic issues." How embarrasing if it should turn out you were actually Jewish, or something, huh?

How is it incorrect or wrong in the first place to announce one doesn't know a fact or subject, to subsequently receive an answer and to subsequent research and discover a better answer?

"TRIPE YOU SPEW" and "PATHETIC" and "to sound oh so superior" are all ad hominem as well, and pretty weak and pathetic as insults go. And false, as well. You designed them to make yourself believe your own superiority. How is that working out for you? Are you convinced yet? Inquiring minds want to KNOW!

In spite of your obdurantly inefficient intellect, each time we interact I learn more.

Situational awareness.

Don't worry I can be very discreet when it suits my purposes.

Singularity

debeda wrote:

We all have our things. I would be considered a bigot about muslims (as a theocratic cult) and about abortion pushers. I have a visceral antipathy toward them. Same with pedophiles and child abusers. No excuse or forgiveness for that, in my opinion. So I am a bigot, I guess. What one sees as a reasonable thing, another sees as bigotry I suppose.

Okay, you have been given plenty of rope, let's see what you've done with it!

As the titular question of this thread involves a issue of definitions, this is pertinent to our analysis.
big·ot
/ˈbiɡət/
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noun
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions.
"don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city"
synonyms: dogmatist, partisan, sectarian, prejudiced person; racist, racialist, sexist, homophobe, chauvinist, jingoist, anti-Semite; informalmale chauvinist pig, MCP

Racism is a subset of bigotry.

So you see it is possible for a generalized bigot to select racism specifically as a tool to promote the bigotry.

YOU claimed DJT is a bigot. As you claim yourself to be. I asserted and proved with the dictionary definition my previous stated contention that DJT , who you agree is a bigot is just a more inclusive master of hate baiting rhetoric and purveyor of intolerance than the specialists who simply use one modality, say racism, to discriminate in deciding to whom the intolerance is to be directed.

It is not disagreement on principle with an opinion that another holds, that makes one a bigot. It is the additional belief/practice that you have the right to punish, disenfranchise or cause harm to their person for disagreeing with you instead of rationally arguing and seriously working for the change you wish to see..

debeda

Ranger7374 wrote:

Then it cheapens the term now doesn't it then....that is both racism and bigotry?

But then again doesn't it punish free thought? For if I am an undesirable word( racist, bigot) for just disagreeing with the majority view point, then doesn't it make the majority view point's reaction a bigot or racist too?

One would think so. Or even a minority opinion. I was just commenting on the way things are now- pretty much if you dont agree with the left you are a _______(fill in the slur)

debeda

Singularity wrote:

Okay, you have been given plenty of rope, let's se... (show quote)

Ah....so YOU'RE a bigot then?