Wow... that my friend was a great post.. I understand why you had to get up and walk around to calm down.. that is kinda how I felt here my first few days...permi and his other lib buddies attacked me right outta the gate... didnt even know who I was.. just saw I'm conservative and Off they ran with the hate speak..!!.. They accuse us of being hateful.. But I think it's just a reflection of themselves in the mirror.. do some of us hate.. yup..but do we spew it out for all to see...some do.. I just happen to like this site..I feel safe posting, or venting my spleen.. I love some of the banter, and even some of the rebuttle from libs..it's interesting..but mostly.. I really like the people here!!..I think we could all be adults and just agree to disagree..and walk away, if not friends at least friendly..But with some of the libs in here..permi included.. just run off w/out lookin where they are goin and bump up against someone Not afraid to voice how they feel!.. Maybe some of the libs in here are friendly when not regarding politics.. hard to say, because some of them are off putting to say the least!..

Permi, I like you, and we get along pretty well even though we strongly disagree on politics, but you're starting to piss me off. You're part of the problem yourself with your partisanship.

When you insult "Trump supporters", you insult even people who try to be friendly to you. I like the job our President is doing for our country. I don't like EVERYTHING he does, but, overall I feel that he's doing what's right for our (note I said OUR) country while standing up to more hatred than any man should have to bear.

Now those who support his policies are subject to the same level of hatred, and violence in some cases.

Neither myself, nor any of my family who like the direction OUR country is headed now are bad people. When you post blanket insults such as this, you not only insult me; but you insult my children, who I happen to be very proud of for their accomplishments, and successes in life.

OK. After the third time of walking away, and returning to finish this response, I'll finish up because I'm calm now.

YOU are THE problem in America today. You sling hate at large groups of salt of the earth, patriotic Americans who you don't know because YOU'RE political agenda isn't being met as you see fit because you are dedicated to a party that is dedicated to its own power.

Neither party gives a shit about you, or me. They care about power, and money. When are you going to realise that? They don't care about our country, or her people, they want CONTROL. PERIOD.

Walk away..........

The Americans you insult with posts like this are sick of it! If you hate me, and my family for supporting the direction this President is steering this country in, then hate away.
But, don't expect me to be nice to you. I'll treat you as you treat me, and my family. I wanna walk away, and come back civil again, but I won't because you've earned a hale, and hardy fk you from millions of Americans. Especially mine.

Have a good evening Permi. Hope all goes well at the doctor tomorrow. You need to stand in your garden, and think.

Good evening sir.

The fairy tale of trump supporters is that the orange trash heap loves America and has done "accomplishments" on our behalf..

The clearly proves differently..

Excerpt from Quora digest..

I've heard a lot of liberals and Democrats complaining lately that President Trump is "destroying our nation"? Can someone please give me an example of how this is true?
David W. Rudlin
David W. Rudlin, Novelist, corporate poo bah, foodaholic, political junkie.
Answered 16h ago · Upvoted by Curt Ziniel, PhD in Political Science, still baffled by political reality.
I agree with pretty much everything listed below, and would add a few of my own:

He’s destroying almost all government departments except Defense. The State Department lost more than 1/3 of its senior staff. They took with them their knowledge, their contacts abroad, and the respect they had earned over decades. Bodies can be replaced; expertise is not so easy. The Department of Agriculture just lost a bunch of key scientists due to a horribly handled office move that seems designed to get people to quit. Morale at the EPA is rock bottom after being “led” by lobbyists for major polluters. The Consumer Finance Protection Bureau has been hobbled by Director Mulvaney requesting zero budget (really!). The list goes on and on.
He’s destroying science. Data on climate change has been taken off government websites. It was recently announced that the government will stop counting the size of the bee population, right after it announced approval of a pesticide widely thought to kill bees. This may sound like a trivial matter, but no bees = no pollination = no food.
He’s gutted law enforcement. By “fighting all the subpoenas” he’s encouraging other criminals to do the same. And by constantly calling the FBI corrupt, he’s handed defense lawyers the ultimate tool for protecting guilty clients. “Hey, they’re a disgrace — the president said so. How can you believe a word they say?”
He lies CONSTANTLY. He lies about things he doesn’t have to. And like the boy who cried wolf, that is coming back to bite him. Do you really believe it when he says the US drone shot down by Iran was in international airspace? I don’t. I figure it it were, Bolton would have gone to the UN to present the satellite photos as proof. Now trump wants us to believe he shot down an Iranian drone. They say all their drones are present and accounted for. Who do you believe? If you even have to think about your answer, you’ll see the damage this corrupt, criminal, incompetent racist has done.

The graph has one major flaw.

While it shows a natural cycle of temperature fluctuation and CO2 levels, it does not take into account that we are now increasing the CO2 levels beyond what nature has done in the past 800 000 years.

The graph doesn't disprove man-made global warming....it ignores that we have more CO2 in the atmosphere than natural cycles would provide. In fact, I would argue that your graph would strengthen the argument for MMGW, as nature hasn't produced the amount of CO2 in our atmosphere currently for over 800 000 years. That additional level we have now is man-made.

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/

Permi, I like you, and we get along pretty well even though we strongly disagree on politics, but you're starting to piss me off. You're part of the problem yourself with your partisanship.

When you insult "Trump supporters", you insult even people who try to be friendly to you. I like the job our President is doing for our country. I don't like EVERYTHING he does, but, overall I feel that he's doing what's right for our (note I said OUR) country while standing up to more hatred than any man should have to bear.

Now those who support his policies are subject to the same level of hatred, and violence in some cases.

Neither myself, nor any of my family who like the direction OUR country is headed now are bad people. When you post blanket insults such as this, you not only insult me; but you insult my children, who I happen to be very proud of for their accomplishments, and successes in life.

OK. After the third time of walking away, and returning to finish this response, I'll finish up because I'm calm now.

YOU are THE problem in America today. You sling hate at large groups of salt of the earth, patriotic Americans who you don't know because YOU'RE political agenda isn't being met as you see fit because you are dedicated to a party that is dedicated to its own power.

Neither party gives a shit about you, or me. They care about power, and money. When are you going to realise that? They don't care about our country, or her people, they want CONTROL. PERIOD.

Walk away..........

The Americans you insult with posts like this are sick of it! If you hate me, and my family for supporting the direction this President is steering this country in, then hate away.
But, don't expect me to be nice to you. I'll treat you as you treat me, and my family. I wanna walk away, and come back civil again, but I won't because you've earned a hale, and hardy fk you from millions of Americans. Especially mine.

Have a good evening Permi. Hope all goes well at the doctor tomorrow. You need to stand in your garden, and think.

Good evening sir.

I've never seen you as any of those. You're just a guy muddling through life like me with different ideas of how it should go.

And, I am at peace. Meat about to come off the smoker, and a soaking wet Mrs. Bunker in the house licking her wounds. She started a water fight with the garden hose, and I finished it!

All is well!

The fairy tale of trump supporters is that the orange trash heap loves America and has done "accomplishments" on our behalf..

The clearly proves differently..

Excerpt from Quora digest..

I've heard a lot of liberals and Democrats complaining lately that President Trump is "destroying our nation"? Can someone please give me an example of how this is true?
David W. Rudlin
David W. Rudlin, Novelist, corporate poo bah, foodaholic, political junkie.
Answered 16h ago · Upvoted by Curt Ziniel, PhD in Political Science, still baffled by political reality.
I agree with pretty much everything listed below, and would add a few of my own:

He’s destroying almost all government departments except Defense. The State Department lost more than 1/3 of its senior staff. They took with them their knowledge, their contacts abroad, and the respect they had earned over decades. Bodies can be replaced; expertise is not so easy. The Department of Agriculture just lost a bunch of key scientists due to a horribly handled office move that seems designed to get people to quit. Morale at the EPA is rock bottom after being “led” by lobbyists for major polluters. The Consumer Finance Protection Bureau has been hobbled by Director Mulvaney requesting zero budget (really!). The list goes on and on.
He’s destroying science. Data on climate change has been taken off government websites. It was recently announced that the government will stop counting the size of the bee population, right after it announced approval of a pesticide widely thought to kill bees. This may sound like a trivial matter, but no bees = no pollination = no food.
He’s gutted law enforcement. By “fighting all the subpoenas” he’s encouraging other criminals to do the same. And by constantly calling the FBI corrupt, he’s handed defense lawyers the ultimate tool for protecting guilty clients. “Hey, they’re a disgrace — the president said so. How can you believe a word they say?”
He lies CONSTANTLY. He lies about things he doesn’t have to. And like the boy who cried wolf, that is coming back to bite him. Do you really believe it when he says the US drone shot down by Iran was in international airspace? I don’t. I figure it it were, Bolton would have gone to the UN to present the satellite photos as proof. Now trump wants us to believe he shot down an Iranian drone. They say all their drones are present and accounted for. Who do you believe? If you even have to think about your answer, you’ll see the damage this corrupt, criminal, incompetent racist has done.

It all really boils down to:

DO you want more government control over your life or LESS?

Cons think it is a good thing when over-bloated government agencies are down-sized/Dems know it lessens their power!

IRAN has been known the world over for attempting to bluff & lie their way out of every situation they have ever been involved in, it is part of their fanatical beliefs to do so! If you truly believe anything that the Iranian government says over your own government, you have gone much too far! PLEASE pull your head back out!