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Jul 22, 2019 10:31:26   #
jhf3 Loc: VA
 
You climate change deniers never check the accuracy/reliability of your sources (such as at
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/).
Here are the facts:
"The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.9 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere." per https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence
Sea level rise: 91 (± 4) mm (per https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/)
As of 7/18/19:
https://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/2019-global-temperatures-through-june-among-top-5-hottest-on-record
Nothing to scoff at:
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-48947573
https://www.vox.com/a/weather-climate-change-us-cities-global-warming

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Jul 22, 2019 10:32:15   #
Cuda2020
 
Seth wrote:
No one's necessarily denying climate change -- how could they? It's a natural phenomenon that's been going in cycles as long as there's been an Earth.

What many of us do deny is that suddenly, just in time to fit a dubious political agenda, it's anthropogenic -- it's all humankind's doing -- unlike before, when "nature did it."

If a large quantity of dupes want to believe the big lie, it's not our fault. 😎


That's a riot, where you've been for the past twenty five or more years?

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Jul 22, 2019 10:33:45   #
Cuda2020
 
jhf3 wrote:
You climate change deniers never check the accuracy/reliability of your sources (such as at
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/).
Here are the facts:
"The planet's average surface temperature has risen about 1.62 degrees Fahrenheit (0.9 degrees Celsius) since the late 19th century, a change driven largely by increased carbon dioxide and other human-made emissions into the atmosphere." per https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence
Sea level rise: 91 (± 4) mm (per https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/sea-level/)
As of 7/18/19:
https://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/2019-global-temperatures-through-june-among-top-5-hottest-on-record
Nothing to scoff at:
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-48947573
https://www.vox.com/a/weather-climate-change-us-cities-global-warming
You climate change deniers never check the accurac... (show quote)


Thanks, these guys are too much with who they use.

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Jul 22, 2019 10:37:38   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Seth wrote:
Sure I do: it's a really, really idiotic plan that would cost something like $92 trillion over ten years to implement and have not one iota of effect on the dreaded Climate Change®, ostensibly because the Man-Made© brand is nothing short of a hoax.

But don't let me stand in your way, there, 'Cuda.

After all, why ruin a perfectly good hoax when it gives a lot of gullible rubes, dupes and dumbjohns something to live for?
Sure I do: it's a really, really idiotic plan that... (show quote)

And an easy way to convince America to give up their power.

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Jul 22, 2019 10:41:29   #
Iliamna1
 
There is something going on in terms of weather. Whether it's man-made is debatable, even how much is man made. Volcanos, solar flares and axis tilts are IMPOSSIBLE to factor into any prediction.
I admit iit . . . I did the UNFORGIVEAVLE sin of cutting and pasting from an article from Freedom News just out this morning. Here it is:.
The very first time that the United Nations issued a dire warning that we would all die from global warming in just 10 years’ time was in June of 1989. Since we have just passed the historic 30-year anniversary of all of our deaths 20 years ago from global warming, perhaps it’s time to check in and see what’s happening in the world of real science.
I don’t know about you, but I get more than enough fake science every time I turn on the TV these days, so I like to see what real-life scientists are discovering.
Every poll shows that global warming is the single least-important issue to voters in 2020, and yet every Democrat has a plan to fight this fake problem with your tax dollars. Every one of them is like a hobo with a sandwich board on the corner, screaming that, “The end is nigh!” As long as the end is on Stardate… 22… 64… point-seven! (Sorry, Democrat nerds. I’m too busy doing grown man stuff to read those Harry Potter books, so I might have gotten that Stardate joke wrong.)
Anyhow, a team of real climate scientists in Finland and another team of real climate scientists in Japan both engaged in science and came up with a startling conclusion. It turns out that every government “climate model” in use on planet earth is totally wrong. Every single one.
A “climate model,” for those who don’t know, is a computer program that global warming cultists use to plug in all of the different variables, such as how much hairspray you use and how much flatulence cows have, to then predict what the weather will be like in the way-faraway future times.
Every single government climate model (computer program) predicts that it’s going to get maybe one degree hotter a couple of hundred years from now. And then, the polar ice caps will melt, and we’ll all have to live on homemade boats like we’re in Kevin Costner’s best movie ever.

Curiously, all of the government-paid scientists in the world who use these climate models predicting our doom have the same solution for fixing it: Tax America into the stone age. If they could just get all of the wealth out of the hands of us deplorable Americans, we would be saved from the climate calamity.
But the Finnish and Japanese real scientists have discovered that there was a glaring omission in every single government global warming climate model that’s been used since the 1980s. Every single one of them made this same mistake. It doesn’t matter if you look at the United Nations climate model, or the ones from NOAA, NASA, the House Subcommittee on Knitting and Doily Oversight… doesn’t matter which one – they ALL made the same math mistake.
They plugged in every can of hairspray used in America. They plugged in every real or imagined cow fart. They plugged in all the exhaust from all of the cars. But they left one teensy-tiny thing out of their equation. The nerds made a math mistake, and you’re really going to laugh when you read this.
It turns out that every government scientist for the past 30 years studying “global warming” forgot to account for those puffy white things in the sky. You know, those big puffy things – what are those called? You know how when it’s hot outside and one of those big puffy sky things gets in the way of the sun, and then it cools off?
Oh, right! CLOUDS! The Finnish and Japanese real scientists discovered that every single government entity that used climate modeling to predict weather doom totally forgot to account for how clouds affect temperature, weather and climate.
And then a weird thing happened. When the real scientists used the exact same government climate models and plugged CLOUDS into the equation… it turns out that manmade global warming does not exist at all, in any projected future timeline. Oops.
Seriously, do you government scientist nerds never go outdoors to observe the nature you’re supposedly doing science over? Or do you just sit around all day watching that movie about Frodo and Congressman Jerrold Nadler trying to save the ring from those Klingons? You “scientist” nerds are looking really pasty these days. You really do need to get outside more often.
Meanwhile, normal people can go out in the back yard and fire up their barbecues in totally guilt-free fashion this summer. We can rest easy knowing that those puffy white sky things are saving us from the weather apocalypse.

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Jul 22, 2019 10:46:45   #
Seth
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
That's a riot, where you've been for the past twenty five or more years?


New Orleans, New York, San Francisco, Charlotte, Washington, DC, L.A. and Chicago,most frequently, along with a few other places in America and abroad, but what's that got to do with anything?

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Jul 22, 2019 10:48:20   #
jhf3 Loc: VA
 
Also:
"In prehistory, CO2 and warming went in lock-step": https://phys.org/news/2013-02-prehistory-co2-lock-step.html

https://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature-intermediate.htm

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Jul 22, 2019 10:49:13   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
Barracuda2020 wrote:
The average global temperature during 2018 was 1.42 degrees F above the 20th-century average. This marks the 42nd consecutive year (since 1977) with an above-average global temperature. Nine of the 10 warmest years have occurred since 2005, with the last five years comprising the five hottest.


Earth’s long-term warming trend continued in 2018 as persistent warmth across large swaths of land and ocean resulted in the globe’s fourth hottest year in NOAA’s 139-year climate record. The year ranks just behind 2016 (warmest), 2015 (second warmest) and 2017 (third warmest).

In separate analyses of global temperatures, scientists from NASA, the United Kingdom Met Office and the World Meteorological Organizationoffsite link also reached the same heat ranking.

The U.S. experienced 14 billion-dollar weather and climate disasters

2018 was 4th hottest year on record for the globe.

Try doing some research with some credible links.
The average global temperature during 2018 was 1.4... (show quote)


Your "research" shows the same thing as mine.... That the temperature has risen about 1.5 degrees fahrenheit since the mid 1800s. Have you ever considered that climate changes occur over centuries? Have you considered that 2000 years ago much of the world was warmer than today? Have you considered that the US contribution to global warming is so small it is statistically insignificant? There was more CO2 in the atmosphere in the last Ice Age than there is today.

https://finance.townhall.com/columnists/mikeshedlock/2019/01/30/amidst-global-warming-hysteria-nasa-expects-global-cooling-n2540500

https://principia-scientific.org/nasa-sees-climate-cooling-trend-thanks-to-low-sun-activity/

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Jul 22, 2019 10:50:11   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
amadjuster wrote:
Your “folks” must be 125 years old! I drove through Missouri a couple of weeks ago in my big ol’ Tahoe and noticed a lot of crops growing. The biggest thing I noticed was that Missouri had the worst roads of the 6 states I drove through.


Guess you haven't driven through much of West Virginia where one lane, two way traffic roads are the norm not the exception, and many of such roads go over mountains so you can't see around the corner to figure out if another car ,or worse yet,semi is coming right at you, and if you get too far off the road to let him pass, it is 400 feet to the bottom. We have been here over 20 years and still can't get all that comfortable with the back roads in these hollows.

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Jul 22, 2019 10:59:07   #
jhf3 Loc: VA
 
Here are just about all of the Climate Change MYTHS, debunked (by reliable data & reputable science):
https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php

If you refuse to believe that This current climate change cycle is man-made and will be devastating, you could rationalize Anything---including cigarette smoking being good for your health.

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Jul 22, 2019 11:01:44   #
Smedley_buzkill
 
jhf3 wrote:
Here are just about all of the Climate Change MYTHS, debunked (by reliable data & reputable science):
https://skepticalscience.com/argument.php

If you refuse to believe that This current climate change cycle is man-made and will be devastating, you could rationalize Anything---including cigarette smoking being good for your health.


All I see are a bunch of claims without a shred of documentation.

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Jul 22, 2019 11:04:06   #
Mikeyavelli
 
Iliamna1 wrote:
There is something going on in terms of weather. Whether it's man-made is debatable, even how much is man made. Volcanos, solar flares and axis tilts are IMPOSSIBLE to factor into any prediction.
I admit iit . . . I did the UNFORGIVEAVLE sin of cutting and pasting from an article from Freedom News just out this morning. Here it is:.
The very first time that the United Nations issued a dire warning that we would all die from global warming in just 10 years’ time was in June of 1989. Since we have just passed the historic 30-year anniversary of all of our deaths 20 years ago from global warming, perhaps it’s time to check in and see what’s happening in the world of real science.
I don’t know about you, but I get more than enough fake science every time I turn on the TV these days, so I like to see what real-life scientists are discovering.
Every poll shows that global warming is the single least-important issue to voters in 2020, and yet every Democrat has a plan to fight this fake problem with your tax dollars. Every one of them is like a hobo with a sandwich board on the corner, screaming that, “The end is nigh!” As long as the end is on Stardate… 22… 64… point-seven! (Sorry, Democrat nerds. I’m too busy doing grown man stuff to read those Harry Potter books, so I might have gotten that Stardate joke wrong.)
Anyhow, a team of real climate scientists in Finland and another team of real climate scientists in Japan both engaged in science and came up with a startling conclusion. It turns out that every government “climate model” in use on planet earth is totally wrong. Every single one.
A “climate model,” for those who don’t know, is a computer program that global warming cultists use to plug in all of the different variables, such as how much hairspray you use and how much flatulence cows have, to then predict what the weather will be like in the way-faraway future times.
Every single government climate model (computer program) predicts that it’s going to get maybe one degree hotter a couple of hundred years from now. And then, the polar ice caps will melt, and we’ll all have to live on homemade boats like we’re in Kevin Costner’s best movie ever.

Curiously, all of the government-paid scientists in the world who use these climate models predicting our doom have the same solution for fixing it: Tax America into the stone age. If they could just get all of the wealth out of the hands of us deplorable Americans, we would be saved from the climate calamity.
But the Finnish and Japanese real scientists have discovered that there was a glaring omission in every single government global warming climate model that’s been used since the 1980s. Every single one of them made this same mistake. It doesn’t matter if you look at the United Nations climate model, or the ones from NOAA, NASA, the House Subcommittee on Knitting and Doily Oversight… doesn’t matter which one – they ALL made the same math mistake.
They plugged in every can of hairspray used in America. They plugged in every real or imagined cow fart. They plugged in all the exhaust from all of the cars. But they left one teensy-tiny thing out of their equation. The nerds made a math mistake, and you’re really going to laugh when you read this.
It turns out that every government scientist for the past 30 years studying “global warming” forgot to account for those puffy white things in the sky. You know, those big puffy things – what are those called? You know how when it’s hot outside and one of those big puffy sky things gets in the way of the sun, and then it cools off?
Oh, right! CLOUDS! The Finnish and Japanese real scientists discovered that every single government entity that used climate modeling to predict weather doom totally forgot to account for how clouds affect temperature, weather and climate.
And then a weird thing happened. When the real scientists used the exact same government climate models and plugged CLOUDS into the equation… it turns out that manmade global warming does not exist at all, in any projected future timeline. Oops.
Seriously, do you government scientist nerds never go outdoors to observe the nature you’re supposedly doing science over? Or do you just sit around all day watching that movie about Frodo and Congressman Jerrold Nadler trying to save the ring from those Klingons? You “scientist” nerds are looking really pasty these days. You really do need to get outside more often.
Meanwhile, normal people can go out in the back yard and fire up their barbecues in totally guilt-free fashion this summer. We can rest easy knowing that those puffy white sky things are saving us from the weather apocalypse.
There is something going on in terms of weather. ... (show quote)


👍👍👍😆
That ought to draw the ire of all the faithful in The First Vegan Church of Modern Day Chickenlittlists.
Klimate change is giving beads to the Shaman who claims that he's the only one who can make it rain.
Klimate change is as big a hoax as Obama...well, maybe not quite. Obama is real.

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Jul 22, 2019 11:12:58   #
jhf3 Loc: VA
 
"Smedley",
Your sources are garbage:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/townhall/
"RIGHT BIAS
These media sources are moderately to strongly biased toward conservative causes through story selection and/or political affiliation. They may utilize strong loaded words (wording that attempts to influence an audience by using appeal to emotion or stereotypes), publish misleading reports and omit reporting of information that may damage conservative causes."

CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/?s=https%3A%2F%2Fprincipia-scientific.org

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Jul 22, 2019 11:21:12   #
amadjuster Loc: Texas Panhandle
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Guess you haven't driven through much of West Virginia where one lane, two way traffic roads are the norm not the exception, and many of such roads go over mountains so you can't see around the corner to figure out if another car ,or worse yet,semi is coming right at you, and if you get too far off the road to let him pass, it is 400 feet to the bottom. We have been here over 20 years and still can't get all that comfortable with the back roads in these hollows.


I said I drove through 6 states. WV was not one of them. What I found fascination is 2 of them had 75 MPH speed limits and 4 were 70 MPH but everyone drove the same speed.

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Jul 22, 2019 11:23:54   #
jhf3 Loc: VA
 
Well, you must have severe reading/comprehension/attention-span problems.

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