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Jul 19, 2019 17:47:21   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
working class stiff wrote:
Not a quarter of the whole....just highly represented in certain sectors of the economy.

It would be foolish to say not one sells drugs or collects welfare. They don't sell as many as American opiod manufacturers, but then those guys are pros. As for welfare and who gets it:
https://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending/corporate-welfare/corporate-vs-social-welfare/

But I'm not an outlier when it comes to stating that Americans are at fault for illegal immigration:

https://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/immigration/332397-its-time-for-the-feds-to-go-after-those-who-employ-illegal

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-01-22/is-ice-finally-targeting-employers-of-illegal-workers
Not a quarter of the whole....just highly represen... (show quote)


I agree... Corporate welfare is equally disgusting... Although at least it is propping up jobs for some...

And I agree that many of the illegal are hardworking and 'necessary' to certain industries... But that was true of slaves as well... Laws need to be enforced or changed...

The opiod crisis is beyond horrid... Yet is the result of loopholes and blind spots in the law... Criminal dealers should not get a free pass because of it...

Enforcement of existing laws and penalizing those who employ illegals would make a huge difference

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Jul 19, 2019 17:55:36   #
son of witless
 
Lonewolf wrote:
Not really stoop labor is hard on a 50 some year old. But I'm sure 30 years younger I would have been able to do it.
So your right, if they paid more young guys could do this!
These guys made good money, but they busted their ass to do it.


I worked at a trout hatchery when I was 17 to 19. Physically the hardest work I ever did. One summer we hauled fish manure and mud out of a pond with buckets. I was in in great shape and it nearly killed me. In the winter time we cut and loaded Christmas trees onto trucks. One day after dragging trees for 12 hours my fingers just stopped working. I could no longer close my hands.

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Jul 20, 2019 02:43:11   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
son of witless wrote:
Maybe if you pound truth into someone's skull long enough a little will leak into the cracks.



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Jul 20, 2019 02:44:53   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Well put


Thank you,Kyle...

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Jul 20, 2019 08:37:20   #
4430 Loc: Little Egypt ** Southern Illinory
 
Lonewolf wrote:
As we get older and less people are working we need young people I'm the work force do we need a lot of people coming in.
I liked Trump's new border rule I think it should inculed if you want to apply for entry you must do it at a legal. Port of entry. Fence jumpers will be returned and if caught again they will be named for life.


I heard the other day a Demo politician say we need all these illegals coming in to do the work that needs to be done as we don't have enough workers !

Well then Stop Killing all these babies talk about lack in the work force how many millions babies have been killed that all the work that they and their families they could have had !

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Jul 20, 2019 08:52:07   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a stranger or strangers at you house demanding to come in...You say."This is my home..You can't just come in!"..And they say.."No, you are wrong!!..We can,you owe us,because we are hungry and we want you to let us in..And oh yeah, we also want you to find us a job, or we will stay in your house for ever and for free!!!"..You say "Its not right!!.. This is my place..You need to move!!" Then one of the intruders takes out IPhone,which looks waaay better then your regular cell phone and all of sudden you have ACLU lawyers, MSM surround your house, calling you racist Nazi WS...and all you wanted to do is to come home from hard days work and have a quiet evening...Noooooo,not happening....So do you see where i am going now???..America is my home and Illegal Aliens are the invaders into my home...And Border is protection for my home....The whole point to this story..Stay away from, my home if you are here ILLEGALLY!!!1..Just STAY AWAY!!!
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a st... (show quote)


Amen and Amen

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Jul 20, 2019 10:23:30   #
Big dog
 
proud republican wrote:
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a stranger or strangers at you house demanding to come in...You say."This is my home..You can't just come in!"..And they say.."No, you are wrong!!..We can,you owe us,because we are hungry and we want you to let us in..And oh yeah, we also want you to find us a job, or we will stay in your house for ever and for free!!!"..You say "Its not right!!.. This is my place..You need to move!!" Then one of the intruders takes out IPhone,which looks waaay better then your regular cell phone and all of sudden you have ACLU lawyers, MSM surround your house, calling you racist Nazi WS...and all you wanted to do is to come home from hard days work and have a quiet evening...Noooooo,not happening....So do you see where i am going now???..America is my home and Illegal Aliens are the invaders into my home...And Border is protection for my home....The whole point to this story..Stay away from, my home if you are here ILLEGALLY!!!1..Just STAY AWAY!!!
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a st... (show quote)


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Jul 20, 2019 11:10:58   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
proud republican wrote:
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a stranger or strangers at you house demanding to come in...You say."This is my home..You can't just come in!"..And they say.."No, you are wrong!!..We can,you owe us,because we are hungry and we want you to let us in..And oh yeah, we also want you to find us a job, or we will stay in your house for ever and for free!!!"..You say "Its not right!!.. This is my place..You need to move!!" Then one of the intruders takes out IPhone,which looks waaay better then your regular cell phone and all of sudden you have ACLU lawyers, MSM surround your house, calling you racist Nazi WS...and all you wanted to do is to come home from hard days work and have a quiet evening...Noooooo,not happening....So do you see where i am going now???..America is my home and Illegal Aliens are the invaders into my home...And Border is protection for my home....The whole point to this story..Stay away from, my home if you are here ILLEGALLY!!!1..Just STAY AWAY!!!
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a st... (show quote)


So agree!

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Jul 20, 2019 11:17:20   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
Lonewolf wrote:
I lived in an area that had a lot of them and found them hard-working and willing to do anything and scrapes with the law were few.


I lived in So Fl, and the migrant workers that came in every year were hard workers in the fields, and were just happy to be working, very polite, course that was back in the 70’s. So many today just want the freebies that the dems are giving them!

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Jul 20, 2019 11:19:11   #
jSmitty45 Loc: Fl born, lived in Texas 30 yrs, now Louisiana
 
4430 wrote:
I heard the other day a Demo politician say we need all these illegals coming in to do the work that needs to be done as we don't have enough workers !

Well then Stop Killing all these babies talk about lack in the work force how many millions babies have been killed that all the work that they and their families they could have had !


Amen!

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Jul 20, 2019 12:07:48   #
tactful Loc: just North of the District of LMAO
 
proud republican wrote:
Republican since 1984 and proud of it!!!!


once upon a time, I was a progressive,liberal, republican[ that got stuff done]yep. these days it can never be or happen.
back in the day,rep. stood for everything that means anything.today it simply can't happen.
it is odd somewhat today's progressives fall more in line with what used to be held near and dear.yes we have terrorism,only its ingrown in the form of a Republican Party dictating its own new world order,well done. speaking of which I'm done here for a spell. it makes good entertainment sometimes though if one is into trolls via the trollway. enjoy your board albeit a place no one( especially me)cares to be. I know what trolls are( most don't know they are)more than most.those that call others one, for the most part are,it's part of their m.o. among other things. isn't it strange those who say go back and fix your problems are the same ones that caused them even if unaware that they have? I have evidence. if the chance came up how many would ask DJT to go home. or take the Orlando sentinel{ right wing as long as can remember}stand," anyone but trump " have a good day.

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Jul 20, 2019 12:28:27   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
JW wrote:
I was saying something similar to my wife earlier today. What if we came home and found a strange family in our living room. What insane mindset is it that says we are now obligated to feed and house this family of burglars; we must take them to our doctor if they are ill and we must pay for their treatment and medication.

What unimaginable gall must it take to leave your home with no merchantable skill, no means of support, and demand housing, employment, health services and sustenance after breaking into a stranger's home.

I can 't decide who is crazier, the one making the presumptions or the home owner who complies meekly and obediently.
I was saying something similar to my wife earlier ... (show quote)


They all need to be given a map to demonrats homes, followed by Liberal news teams, with keys and a welcome sign!!!

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Jul 20, 2019 13:26:42   #
JoyV
 
proud republican wrote:
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a stranger or strangers at you house demanding to come in...You say."This is my home..You can't just come in!"..And they say.."No, you are wrong!!..We can,you owe us,because we are hungry and we want you to let us in..And oh yeah, we also want you to find us a job, or we will stay in your house for ever and for free!!!"..You say "Its not right!!.. This is my place..You need to move!!" Then one of the intruders takes out IPhone,which looks waaay better then your regular cell phone and all of sudden you have ACLU lawyers, MSM surround your house, calling you racist Nazi WS...and all you wanted to do is to come home from hard days work and have a quiet evening...Noooooo,not happening....So do you see where i am going now???..America is my home and Illegal Aliens are the invaders into my home...And Border is protection for my home....The whole point to this story..Stay away from, my home if you are here ILLEGALLY!!!1..Just STAY AWAY!!!
So,lets say you come home one day and you see a st... (show quote)



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Jul 20, 2019 13:46:07   #
JoyV
 
Lonewolf wrote:
As we get older and less people are working we need young people I'm the work force do we need a lot of people coming in.
I liked Trump's new border rule I think it should inculed if you want to apply for entry you must do it at a legal. Port of entry. Fence jumpers will be returned and if caught again they will be named for life.


I thought it did did include immediate return of illegal entry. But after reading it through, it does not. It does make those who are here illegally ineligible for asylum or even a work permit.


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"Presidential Memorandum on Additional Measures to Enhance Border Security and Restore Integrity to Our Immigration System

April 29, 2019

MEMORANDUM FOR THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY

SUBJECT: Additional Measures to Enhance Border Security and Restore Integrity to Our Immigration System

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and to ensure the safety and territorial integrity of the United States as well as to ensure that the Nation’s immigration laws are faithfully executed, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Purpose. As noted in Proclamations 9822 and 9842 of November 9, 2018, and February 7, 2019, respectively, our immigration and asylum system is in crisis as a consequence of the mass migration of aliens across our southern border. In Proclamation 9844 of February 15, 2019, I declared a national emergency to address the security and humanitarian crisis at that border. That emergency continues to grow increasingly severe. In March, more than 100,000 inadmissible aliens were encountered seeking entry into the United States. Many aliens travel in large caravans or other large organized groups, and many travel with children. The extensive resources required to process and care for these individuals pulls U.S. Customs and Border Protection personnel away from securing our Nation’s borders. Additionally, illicit organizations benefit financially by smuggling illegal aliens into the United States and encouraging abuse of our asylum procedures. This strategic exploitation of our Nation’s humanitarian programs undermines our Nation’s security and sovereignty. The purpose of this memorandum is to strengthen asylum procedures to safeguard our system against rampant abuse of our asylum process.

Sec. 2. Policy. It is the policy of the executive branch to manage our humanitarian immigration programs in a safe, orderly manner that provides access to relief or protection from removal from the United States for aliens who qualify, and that promptly denies benefits to and facilitates the removal of those who do not.

Sec. 3. Further Steps to Enhance the Integrity and Efficiency of the Existing Asylum System. Within 90 days of the date of this memorandum, the Attorney General and the Secretary of Homeland Security, as applicable, shall take all appropriate actions to:

(a) propose regulations to ensure that aliens who receive positive fear determinations pursuant to section 235(b)(1) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (8 U.S.C. 1225(b)(1)) or section 2242 of the Foreign Affairs Reform and Restructuring Act of 1998 (8 U.S.C. 1231 note) are placed in proceedings conducted under 8 CFR 208.2(c)(1) and 1208.2(c)(1) or, if not eligible for asylum, are placed in proceedings conducted under 8 CFR 208.2(c)(2) and 1208.2(c)(2);

(b) propose regulations to ensure that, absent exceptional circumstances, all asylum applications adjudicated in immigration court proceedings receive final administrative adjudication, not including administrative appeal, within 180 days of filing, in accordance with section 208(d)(5)(A)(iii) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1158(d)(5)(A)(iii));

(c) propose regulations setting a fee for an asylum application not to exceed the costs of adjudicating the application, as authorized by section 208(d)(3) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1158(d)(3)) and other applicable statutes, and setting a fee for an initial application for employment authorization for the period an asylum claim is pending; and

(d) propose regulations under section 208(d)(2) of the INA (8 U.S.C. 1158(d)(2)) and other applicable statutes to bar aliens who have entered or attempted to enter the United States unlawfully from receiving employment authorization before any applicable application for relief or protection from removal has been granted, and to ensure immediate revocation of employment authorization for aliens who are denied asylum or become subject to a final order of removal.

Sec. 4. Allocation of Immigration Officers. The Secretary of Homeland Security shall reprioritize the assignment of immigration officers and any other employees of the Department as the Secretary deems necessary and appropriate to improve the integrity of adjudications of credible and reasonable fear claims, to strengthen the enforcement of the immigration laws, and to ensure compliance with the law by those aliens who have final orders of removal.

Sec. 5. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This memorandum shall be implemented in a manner consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

(c) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

DONALD J. TRUMP"

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Jul 20, 2019 14:00:53   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
proud republican wrote:
Republican since 1984 and proud of it!!!!


For me the change came mush earlier. After John Kennedy was killed I lost all respect for the Democrats. Up until that time I voted mostly Democratic. Then the Democratic party change to the party against the average working person. There have been some times I voted for a Dem in a city or state election because they supported my thoughts. That has been a rare occurrence if at all since Carter if at all.

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