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Trump Uses Executive Action to Count Citizens
Jul 12, 2019 13:14:58   #
Parky60 Loc: People's Republic of Illinois
 
They go through houses, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. ‘How many toilets do you have? How many desks? How many beds? What’s their roof made of?' The only thing we can’t ask is ‘Are you a citizen of the United States? Pretty amazing.' Donald Trump

Trump Uses Executive Action to Count Citizens
Zachary Stieber ~ July 12, 2019
Federal agencies to submit data on citizens and non-citizens; president says strategy more accurate than census question


President Donald Trump announced an executive order that will require all federal agencies to submit existing information about U.S. citizens and non-citizens to the Department of Commerce.

The Census Bureau said it could figure out the citizenship status of 90 percent or more of the population through the move, which would be more accurate than using a citizenship question on the census, Trump said on July 11.

“We will leave no stone unturned,” he said.

Trump opened the press conference with a hypothetical scenario of someone being asked if he were a citizen.

“Are you a citizen of the United States of America? ‘Oh gee, I can’t answer that question,'” Trump said.

“They’re trying to erase the existence of a very important word, a very important thing—citizenship,” he said, before alleging that people opposing accurate citizenship figures are not proud to be citizens of the United States.

“Knowing this information is vital to formulating sound public policy,” Trump added, citing health care, voting districts, and other issues.

“Unfortunately, this effort was delayed by meritless litigation,” he said. “As shocking as it may be, the far-left Democrats” want to hide the true number of illegal immigrants in the country, which is likely higher than anybody thinks, the president said.

“Today’s executive order will finally give us an accurate understanding of how many citizens and non-citizens live in our country,” Attorney General William Barr said.

Barr said the administration would have prevailed in the ongoing litigation, but the effort would jeopardize the ability to conduct the census.

“There is simply no way to litigate these issues and obtain relief from the current injunctions in time to implement any new decision without jeopardizing our ability to carry out the census itself, which we are not going to do. So, as a practical matter, the Supreme Court’s decision closed all paths to adding the question to the 2020 decennial census,” he said.

Barr also hit out at speculation that Trump was going to place the question on the census through an executive order.

“Some in the media have suggested that the administration is adding the question by executive fiat. This is based on rank speculation, and nothing more. This has never been under consideration,” he said.

The decision comes several weeks after the Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration’s rationale for adding the question to the census “seems to have been contrived,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority decision after the 5–4 ruling.

The rationale was that the question was needed to gather data to help enforce the Voting Rights Act.

The “explanation” was “incongruent with what the record reveals about the agency’s priorities and decision-making process,” Roberts added, The Epoch Times reported. “We cannot ignore the disconnect between the decision made and the explanation given.”

Trump has zeroed in on the issue as an example of an activist judiciary and repeatedly harangued judges who have ruled against him on the case, pointing out whether they had been appointed by President Barack Obama. He called district courts weighing different suits opposed to adding the question “unfriendly to us.”

“A very sad time for America when the Supreme Court of the United States won’t allow a question of ‘Is this person a Citizen of the United States?’” he wrote in one missive on Twitter earlier in July.

The question was on the decennial census in some form from 1820 until 1950. The question at the time was: “If foreign born, is the person naturalized?”

The president explained why he wanted the question on the census earlier this month.

“You need it for many reasons. Number one, you need it for Congress, you need it for Congress, for districting, you need it for appropriations, where are the funds going. How many people are there? Are they citizens, are they not citizens? You need it for many reasons,” Trump told reporters in Washington.

“We have a number of different avenues. We could use all of them or one. We’re doing very well on that. We’re spending $15 billion to $20 billion on a census. We’re doing everything. We’re finding out everything about everybody. Think of it: $15 billion to $20 billion. And you’re not allowed to ask them, ‘Are you a citizen?’” he said. “And by the way, if you look at the history of our country, it’s almost always been asked.”

On July 11, during the social media summit, Trump wondered anew at the logic people use to oppose the question being added.

“They go through houses, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. ‘How many toilets do you have? How many desks? How many beds? What’s their roof made of?'” he said.

“The only thing we can’t ask is ‘Are you a citizen of the United States?’ Pretty amazing.”

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Jul 12, 2019 13:50:51   #
Radiance3
 
Parky60 wrote:
They go through houses, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. ‘How many toilets do you have? How many desks? How many beds? What’s their roof made of?' The only thing we can’t ask is ‘Are you a citizen of the United States? Pretty amazing.' Donald Trump

Trump Uses Executive Action to Count Citizens
Zachary Stieber ~ July 12, 2019
Federal agencies to submit data on citizens and non-citizens; president says strategy more accurate than census question


President Donald Trump announced an executive order that will require all federal agencies to submit existing information about U.S. citizens and non-citizens to the Department of Commerce.

The Census Bureau said it could figure out the citizenship status of 90 percent or more of the population through the move, which would be more accurate than using a citizenship question on the census, Trump said on July 11.

“We will leave no stone unturned,” he said.

Trump opened the press conference with a hypothetical scenario of someone being asked if he were a citizen.

“Are you a citizen of the United States of America? ‘Oh gee, I can’t answer that question,'” Trump said.

“They’re trying to erase the existence of a very important word, a very important thing—citizenship,” he said, before alleging that people opposing accurate citizenship figures are not proud to be citizens of the United States.

“Knowing this information is vital to formulating sound public policy,” Trump added, citing health care, voting districts, and other issues.

“Unfortunately, this effort was delayed by meritless litigation,” he said. “As shocking as it may be, the far-left Democrats” want to hide the true number of illegal immigrants in the country, which is likely higher than anybody thinks, the president said.

“Today’s executive order will finally give us an accurate understanding of how many citizens and non-citizens live in our country,” Attorney General William Barr said.

Barr said the administration would have prevailed in the ongoing litigation, but the effort would jeopardize the ability to conduct the census.

“There is simply no way to litigate these issues and obtain relief from the current injunctions in time to implement any new decision without jeopardizing our ability to carry out the census itself, which we are not going to do. So, as a practical matter, the Supreme Court’s decision closed all paths to adding the question to the 2020 decennial census,” he said.

Barr also hit out at speculation that Trump was going to place the question on the census through an executive order.

“Some in the media have suggested that the administration is adding the question by executive fiat. This is based on rank speculation, and nothing more. This has never been under consideration,” he said.

The decision comes several weeks after the Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration’s rationale for adding the question to the census “seems to have been contrived,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority decision after the 5–4 ruling.

The rationale was that the question was needed to gather data to help enforce the Voting Rights Act.

The “explanation” was “incongruent with what the record reveals about the agency’s priorities and decision-making process,” Roberts added, The Epoch Times reported. “We cannot ignore the disconnect between the decision made and the explanation given.”

Trump has zeroed in on the issue as an example of an activist judiciary and repeatedly harangued judges who have ruled against him on the case, pointing out whether they had been appointed by President Barack Obama. He called district courts weighing different suits opposed to adding the question “unfriendly to us.”

“A very sad time for America when the Supreme Court of the United States won’t allow a question of ‘Is this person a Citizen of the United States?’” he wrote in one missive on Twitter earlier in July.

The question was on the decennial census in some form from 1820 until 1950. The question at the time was: “If foreign born, is the person naturalized?”

The president explained why he wanted the question on the census earlier this month.

“You need it for many reasons. Number one, you need it for Congress, you need it for Congress, for districting, you need it for appropriations, where are the funds going. How many people are there? Are they citizens, are they not citizens? You need it for many reasons,” Trump told reporters in Washington.

“We have a number of different avenues. We could use all of them or one. We’re doing very well on that. We’re spending $15 billion to $20 billion on a census. We’re doing everything. We’re finding out everything about everybody. Think of it: $15 billion to $20 billion. And you’re not allowed to ask them, ‘Are you a citizen?’” he said. “And by the way, if you look at the history of our country, it’s almost always been asked.”

On July 11, during the social media summit, Trump wondered anew at the logic people use to oppose the question being added.

“They go through houses, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. ‘How many toilets do you have? How many desks? How many beds? What’s their roof made of?'” he said.

“The only thing we can’t ask is ‘Are you a citizen of the United States?’ Pretty amazing.”
I They go through houses, they ring doorbells, th... (show quote)

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President Trump's executive action counting the citizens via his executive branch is perfectly legal.

This Executive action is more effective and within the constraints of his constitutional powers. The Justice Dept. could not manipulate and deny this via legislating from the bench.


The Census Bureau reporting to the Dept. of Commerce, is under the authority the Executive Branch. The authority of the president to count the citizens is perfectly legal and constitutional. The purposes are very significant and essential in various policy making purposes. For example, on the State redistricting, providing appropriations on various services, like healthcare, public schools portions, Medicaid funding, and all other services subsidized by the federal government.

The president and DOJ Barr made a very careful and well-thought of decision within his Executive powers.

I was confident, president Trump will not ignore our requests to get count of citizens in this country. He will comply by various legal means.
Thank you Mr. president!

Peglosi's mouth is wide open by surprise. She will accuse of making America "white again." Non-sense.

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Jul 12, 2019 16:21:06   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
Parky60 wrote:
They go through houses, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. ‘How many toilets do you have? How many desks? How many beds? What’s their roof made of?' The only thing we can’t ask is ‘Are you a citizen of the United States? Pretty amazing.' Donald Trump

Trump Uses Executive Action to Count Citizens
Zachary Stieber ~ July 12, 2019
Federal agencies to submit data on citizens and non-citizens; president says strategy more accurate than census question


President Donald Trump announced an executive order that will require all federal agencies to submit existing information about U.S. citizens and non-citizens to the Department of Commerce.

The Census Bureau said it could figure out the citizenship status of 90 percent or more of the population through the move, which would be more accurate than using a citizenship question on the census, Trump said on July 11.

“We will leave no stone unturned,” he said.

Trump opened the press conference with a hypothetical scenario of someone being asked if he were a citizen.

“Are you a citizen of the United States of America? ‘Oh gee, I can’t answer that question,'” Trump said.

“They’re trying to erase the existence of a very important word, a very important thing—citizenship,” he said, before alleging that people opposing accurate citizenship figures are not proud to be citizens of the United States.

“Knowing this information is vital to formulating sound public policy,” Trump added, citing health care, voting districts, and other issues.

“Unfortunately, this effort was delayed by meritless litigation,” he said. “As shocking as it may be, the far-left Democrats” want to hide the true number of illegal immigrants in the country, which is likely higher than anybody thinks, the president said.

“Today’s executive order will finally give us an accurate understanding of how many citizens and non-citizens live in our country,” Attorney General William Barr said.

Barr said the administration would have prevailed in the ongoing litigation, but the effort would jeopardize the ability to conduct the census.

“There is simply no way to litigate these issues and obtain relief from the current injunctions in time to implement any new decision without jeopardizing our ability to carry out the census itself, which we are not going to do. So, as a practical matter, the Supreme Court’s decision closed all paths to adding the question to the 2020 decennial census,” he said.

Barr also hit out at speculation that Trump was going to place the question on the census through an executive order.

“Some in the media have suggested that the administration is adding the question by executive fiat. This is based on rank speculation, and nothing more. This has never been under consideration,” he said.

The decision comes several weeks after the Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration’s rationale for adding the question to the census “seems to have been contrived,” Chief Justice John Roberts wrote in the majority decision after the 5–4 ruling.

The rationale was that the question was needed to gather data to help enforce the Voting Rights Act.

The “explanation” was “incongruent with what the record reveals about the agency’s priorities and decision-making process,” Roberts added, The Epoch Times reported. “We cannot ignore the disconnect between the decision made and the explanation given.”

Trump has zeroed in on the issue as an example of an activist judiciary and repeatedly harangued judges who have ruled against him on the case, pointing out whether they had been appointed by President Barack Obama. He called district courts weighing different suits opposed to adding the question “unfriendly to us.”

“A very sad time for America when the Supreme Court of the United States won’t allow a question of ‘Is this person a Citizen of the United States?’” he wrote in one missive on Twitter earlier in July.

The question was on the decennial census in some form from 1820 until 1950. The question at the time was: “If foreign born, is the person naturalized?”

The president explained why he wanted the question on the census earlier this month.

“You need it for many reasons. Number one, you need it for Congress, you need it for Congress, for districting, you need it for appropriations, where are the funds going. How many people are there? Are they citizens, are they not citizens? You need it for many reasons,” Trump told reporters in Washington.

“We have a number of different avenues. We could use all of them or one. We’re doing very well on that. We’re spending $15 billion to $20 billion on a census. We’re doing everything. We’re finding out everything about everybody. Think of it: $15 billion to $20 billion. And you’re not allowed to ask them, ‘Are you a citizen?’” he said. “And by the way, if you look at the history of our country, it’s almost always been asked.”

On July 11, during the social media summit, Trump wondered anew at the logic people use to oppose the question being added.

“They go through houses, they ring doorbells, they talk to people. ‘How many toilets do you have? How many desks? How many beds? What’s their roof made of?'” he said.

“The only thing we can’t ask is ‘Are you a citizen of the United States?’ Pretty amazing.”
I They go through houses, they ring doorbells, th... (show quote)


Another empty and useless executive order. Federal agencies already report such things...............................to the department of homeland security. What, DHS can't send a fax to Commerce?

The majority of Trump's EO's were stage props...............making it seem like he was taking care of business.

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Jul 12, 2019 16:30:02   #
Radiance3
 
lpnmajor wrote:
Another empty and useless executive order. Federal agencies already report such things...............................to the department of homeland security. What, DHS can't send a fax to Commerce?

The majority of Trump's EO's were stage props...............making it seem like he was taking care of business.


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I think DOJ Barr knows better than that. I'll wait a little while to know the facts and events actually taken.

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