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Jul 11, 2019 14:27:37   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Maybe you should join trump at his WH summit for conspiracy nuts


Maybe mold you should join AOC and kiss her socialist ass~

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Jul 11, 2019 14:36:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
What a bunch of twisted hooey.

How bout a link or something as regards to your red line theory? LOL!

And ISIS ended by Obama? What a laugh. Trump gave the military to OK to take out ISIS. Obama wouldn't let them do anything without his expressed permission and his rules of engagement were reminiscent of Vietnam.

You're a true joke permy. I have never seen such a mishmash of bunk in my entire life. Who is "you people?" Fact is, Obama tried to continue the democratization of the ME and further destabilized it by pulling out of Iraq, essentially creating ISIS, who he then could have obliterated but didn't. And finally admit it, the sheer speed with which Iran has now gone beyond what the agreement limited them to only confirms what we have always know; they never, ever intended to keep the agreement, which didn't even allow us to look at their military bases for evidence of continued enrichment. What a stupid agreement which was never ratified or agreed to by Congress, by the way.

What world of pure fantasy are you living in? The MSNBC/CNN world of pure fiction??? OMG!!!
What a bunch of twisted hooey. br br How bout a l... (show quote)




2007... clearly you need some time out..

have a beer and sammach...

the red line is not part of todays news/worry. if you want to dig some more go ahead..

Same with ISIS... the STRATEGY for defeating ISIS was from the military/Obama administration.. even the time line..

Iraq withdrawal all bush agreement, Irag refused Obama effort to protect our own troops..

Disbanding of Iraq army by Bush, which seemed such a good idea at the time may have been the single most productive recruiting pool for ISIS.. no where to go and no money, the troops leaped at the first chance they were given..

Iran,,, you do know that Iran has not made additional weapon grade material, the over run is still not that refined.. so--A bluster to counter the foolish orange man?

And as we have no skin in the game now thanks to the orange dick head, what business is it of ours what the amount of refined material is..

the UK, France and the others have to deal with that..

You can read the minds of Iranian from this great distance? who woulda thunk it... wow



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Jul 11, 2019 14:41:25   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Exactly! Capitalism recognizes human nature and seeks to accommodate it. And human nature always includes wanting to be free to express oneself in whatever manner one chooses. So capitalism allows maximum individual freedom consistent with an orderly society.
Socialism is concerned, not with the individual, but with society as a whole. Which effectively disenfranchises ALL individuals. That's why socialist societies have to stamp out religion, or individualism. They always call their goal, 'utopia'. Because it's unattainable.
Individual freedoms, allowed by capitalism, have elevated the lives of more people worldwide than any other system ever devised by man.
Exactly! Capitalism recognizes human nature and se... (show quote)




Walt, that is a pretty good post..

But to my knowledge no one on the Democrat side wants to limit society, the idea is to work as a group for things that help the majority.

things like infrastructure, health care, education as well as commerce playing its own role..



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Jul 11, 2019 14:43:09   #
waltmoreno
 
The Critical Critic wrote:
No. Not even remotely like that. The statue, when originally given, had absolutely nothing to do with immigration. There was no poem originally part of the statue. Whereas the words to the pledge has always had something to with this country, just as the country had always had to do with a Divine Providence.


Bingo! That's telling moldy. But your post has several important and material points and I don't believe moldy can handle more than one point at a time. He's kinda slow. But he's quick to post his stupid prepackaged memes.

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Jul 11, 2019 14:56:05   #
waltmoreno
 
permafrost wrote:
Walt, that is a pretty good post..

But to my knowledge no one on the Democrat side wants to limit society, the idea is to work as a group for things that help the majority.

things like infrastructure, health care, education as well as commerce playing its own role..


Hey permie, socialists or even communists never talk about limiting anything. They always talk about the glorious society just around the corner when everyone will have free healthcare, college, housing, food, etc.
But whenever you talk about the collective, you're including the dregs of society. Those who would rather get a free ride, than hustle. And by combining them together, you disincentivize the hustlers. So you'll be left with the slackers who are just putting in their time. Like those long time, clock-watching, union members who aren't really contributing but rather riding on the production of the go-getters.
I say let each individual rise and fall on his own merits. It's the only way free people understand.

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Jul 11, 2019 15:03:42   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
2007... clearly you need some time out..

have a beer and sammach...

the red line is not part of todays news/worry. if you want to dig some more go ahead..

Same with ISIS... the STRATEGY for defeating ISIS was from the military/Obama administration.. even the time line..

Iraq withdrawal all bush agreement, Irag refused Obama effort to protect our own troops..

Disbanding of Iraq army by Bush, which seemed such a good idea at the time may have been the single most productive recruiting pool for ISIS.. no where to go and no money, the troops leaped at the first chance they were given..

Iran,,, you do know that Iran has not made additional weapon grade material, the over run is still not that refined.. so--A bluster to counter the foolish orange man?

And as we have no skin in the game now thanks to the orange dick head, what business is it of ours what the amount of refined material is..

the UK, France and the others have to deal with that..

You can read the minds of Iranian from this great distance? who woulda thunk it... wow
2007... clearly you need some time out.. br br h... (show quote)


" you do know that Iran has not made additional weapon grade material, the over run is still not that refined." First of all, they continued to refine. Period. We had zero ways of verifying any of what they were doing. This I know. You also do not know or have a clue about what level of refinement they have reached, at all. Again, it is not verifiable, at all.

Your other mythology I leave to you to continue to fantasize over. It is just too much of a joke to furthere consider.

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Jul 11, 2019 15:50:40   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Hey permie, socialists or even communists never talk about limiting anything. They always talk about the glorious society just around the corner when everyone will have free healthcare, college, housing, food, etc.
But whenever you talk about the collective, you're including the dregs of society. Those who would rather get a free ride, than hustle. And by combining them together, you disincentivize the hustlers. So you'll be left with the slackers who are just putting in their time. Like those long time, clock-watching, union members who aren't really contributing but rather riding on the production of the go-getters.
I say let each individual rise and fall on his own merits. It's the only way free people understand.
Hey permie, socialists or even communists never ta... (show quote)


Gosh walt,,,

I do not think I ever championed "free" anything.. Healthcare--need afordable for all. College--something must be done or it will only be for the rich to use and the world will leave us behind... housing.... affordable housing is becoming less and less available. why would anyone put resources to work on projects that return little to the input.. that is a problem I see no solution to..Food..this may be a problem sooner than we expect..

You worry about the dregs of society being part of these topics.. are you one who should choose who gets to be among those selected for the "stuff"

I have never felt people who reject a union have a prayer of achieving anything but a chance to work even harder for the same return..

A worker has no power at all to debate with a business by himself.. never make it..

Free people absolutely need to work together to remain free.



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Jul 11, 2019 16:09:35   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
" you do know that Iran has not made additional weapon grade material, the over run is still not that refined." First of all, they continued to refine. Period. We had zero ways of verifying any of what they were doing. This I know. You also do not know or have a clue about what level of refinement they have reached, at all. Again, it is not verifiable, at all.

Your other mythology I leave to you to continue to fantasize over. It is just too much of a joke to furthere consider.
" you do know that Iran has not made addition... (show quote)


You may resent any other nation having rights in this world, but in fact they do..

so the agreement was never intended to cover everything and more work was underway to address other issues.. the orange ding dong ended that..

Inspections were among the world most stringent but yes military site were on a case by case basis..


https://america.cgtn.com/2018/05/01/how-do-the-iran-nuclear-deal-inspections-work

How do the nuclear inspections work?

There are 18 nuclear facilities and nine other facilities in Iran monitored by IAEA. The IAEA inspects these sites to see if their activities match descriptions submitted by Iran.

Kelsey Davenport, Director for Nonproliferation Policy with the Arms Control Association said: “Iran is a unique case in that some key locations are subject to 24-hour surveillance and inspection teams are continually in Iran to verify its compliance with the agreement.”

The IAEA’s main focus in Iran is monitoring uranium enrichment. This process can produce fuel to run nuclear reactors or make a nuclear weapon.

Under the Iran nuclear deal, Iran has promised not to enrich uranium above 3.67 percent. Nuclear weapons are typically made of uranium enriched at 90 percent or more.

The IAEA has not wavered from its conclusion that Iran is compliant. “Iran has not enriched uranium above 3.67%,” the agency said in one of its assessments in 2017.

The IAEA continually measures Iran’s stockpiles of enriched uranium and counts the number of centrifuges.

“Inspectors can also use images, including from satellites, to verify activities and investigate concerns about undeclared activities or sites,” Davenport said.

In 2017, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley expressed concerns that Iran hasn’t declared all of its nuclear activities to the IAEA.

But suspicions aren’t enough to trigger an inspection. “If the IAEA has concerns that Iran is conducting illicit nuclear activities at sites outside of the declared facilities, inspectors must first present Iran with their concerns and ask for clarifications,” Davenport said.

“If Tehran is unable to provide explanations that address the IAEA’s concerns, inspectors can request access to any location, including military sites. Within a 24-day period, Iran must provide the necessary access.”

Since 2016, the IAEA has issued 11 reports certifying that Iran has met its requirements under the deal. The Agency also said it has gained access to all requested sites in 2017.

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Jul 11, 2019 16:25:00   #
waltmoreno
 
permafrost wrote:
Gosh walt,,,

I do not think I ever championed "free" anything.. Healthcare--need afordable for all. College--something must be done or it will only be for the rich to use and the world will leave us behind... housing.... affordable housing is becoming less and less available. why would anyone put resources to work on projects that return little to the input.. that is a problem I see no solution to..Food..this may be a problem sooner than we expect..

You worry about the dregs of society being part of these topics.. are you one who should choose who gets to be among those selected for the "stuff"

I have never felt people who reject a union have a prayer of achieving anything but a chance to work even harder for the same return..

A worker has no power at all to debate with a business by himself.. never make it..

Free people absolutely need to work together to remain free.
Gosh walt,,, br br I do not think I ever champion... (show quote)


Let’s get down to the bare essentials, permie, to see how things ought to be. Before ‘governments’ came into existence, people made do by providing ‘stuff’ for each other, and that was a primitive economy. The hunter might give meat to the tiller of soil in exchange for some wheat.
Free exchanges.
Once people banded together and established governments, the way to become wealthy was to take from the weak.
Capitalism changed all that and established a much more sophisticated way of becoming wealthy - by pleasing your neighbor.
Fast forward to today - if slackers or ‘dregs’ don’t please their neighbor (or employer) why should others (including other union members) carry them?
Answer: they shouldn’t!
At their elemental level, these slackers aren’t carrying their own weight. They don’t belong in a capitalist economy. Their deficiencies are more suited to a socialist society where their lack of productivity will be masked by the collective.

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Jul 11, 2019 16:38:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
You may resent any other nation having rights in this world, but in fact they do..

so the agreement was never intended to cover everything and more work was underway to address other issues.. the orange ding dong ended that..

Inspections were among the world most stringent but yes military site were on a case by case basis..


https://america.cgtn.com/2018/05/01/how-do-the-iran-nuclear-deal-inspections-work

How do the nuclear inspections work?

There are 18 nuclear facilities and nine other facilities in Iran monitored by IAEA. The IAEA inspects these sites to see if their activities match descriptions submitted by Iran.

Kelsey Davenport, Director for Nonproliferation Policy with the Arms Control Association said: “Iran is a unique case in that some key locations are subject to 24-hour surveillance and inspection teams are continually in Iran to verify its compliance with the agreement.”

The IAEA’s main focus in Iran is monitoring uranium enrichment. This process can produce fuel to run nuclear reactors or make a nuclear weapon.

Under the Iran nuclear deal, Iran has promised not to enrich uranium above 3.67 percent. Nuclear weapons are typically made of uranium enriched at 90 percent or more.

The IAEA has not wavered from its conclusion that Iran is compliant. “Iran has not enriched uranium above 3.67%,” the agency said in one of its assessments in 2017.

The IAEA continually measures Iran’s stockpiles of enriched uranium and counts the number of centrifuges.

“Inspectors can also use images, including from satellites, to verify activities and investigate concerns about undeclared activities or sites,” Davenport said.

In 2017, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley expressed concerns that Iran hasn’t declared all of its nuclear activities to the IAEA.

But suspicions aren’t enough to trigger an inspection. “If the IAEA has concerns that Iran is conducting illicit nuclear activities at sites outside of the declared facilities, inspectors must first present Iran with their concerns and ask for clarifications,” Davenport said.

“If Tehran is unable to provide explanations that address the IAEA’s concerns, inspectors can request access to any location, including military sites. Within a 24-day period, Iran must provide the necessary access.”

Since 2016, the IAEA has issued 11 reports certifying that Iran has met its requirements under the deal. The Agency also said it has gained access to all requested sites in 2017.
You may resent any other nation having rights in t... (show quote)


Do you honestly think Iran has ever kept an agreement with the US after w over threw their democratically elected leader and installed the Shah of Iran? Do you think they would disclose all of their nuclear sites? Iran is about 1/6th the size of the states; it is rugged and desolate. We can't even look at all of it with our satellites and they know exactly when we can see their stuff with accuracy to the minute. That's why we were flying the drone so close. Iran is the greatest sponsor of Islamic terrorism and would give their left nutt to have a nuke they could use on any one of us. That is the one thing, the most important thing, we have to prevent and we cannot even tell if they are on the verge of creating one or if they even have one. they are masters at deception. They would have us negotiating a total disarmament all the while planting one on US soil if it hasn't been already done. Their gov is Radical Islam, not just a bunch of Muslims trying to make a living. They still, even with ISIS gone, as being the Persian Empire, yet to be reborn; at least their relgious supreme leader(s) does.

So the Iranian deal was nothing but a political "thing" not worth the paper or computer bits it was stored on. Obama was told that. He knew and still knows that. When they talk about it's importance, they are just trying to placate the masses and garner votes. Trump was informed of all this and turned his generals loose on ISIS and disbanded the agreement. It is an acknowledgment that we all know it was worthless and we need to deal with Ian on realistic terms.

If it were anything but nukes, we could afford to play games, but it's still nukes. And just like N Korea, they need to understand that any use of said weapons will result in their country being melted into glass, for the sake of the world. That, is the game we have to play until be know for sure what they have and we simply don't.

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Jul 11, 2019 16:54:18   #
jeff smith
 
David Seaman wrote:
Well, do you know what socialism is? I mean really: I’m interested in hearing what you fear or like about it. Public Schools are good, right? Public Works- road maintenance, parks, electric. And public service like police and fire, courts, tax assessors- all of it to support We The People. And the places that privatized public services screwed us. The Prison system is the perfect example.
But we *are* a socialist country. The root word, social, refers to Society. We are tribal people. We do not do well on our own- isolated. And the US hasn’t fought an honest war since 1945. I have so many younger friends who enlisted and served tour after tour in Afghanistan and Iraq. Some died there, others died after they returned. What does the Middle East War (2003 -present) have to do with our way of life? What were my friends fighting for?
I seriously welcome the opportunity to learn from you; to share our ideas.
Let’s start with “socialist.” For 17 of my 32 years working I taught public school. I served the public. I’ve been in the trenches of service to my country. Instead of a rifle I carried a baton, lesson plans, and an iPod. But service just the same.
Are services that benefit the whole society a bad thing or a good thing and how are we defining “social”?
Well, do you know what socialism is? I mean really... (show quote)


the Republic of the United States of America, may have what some would call socialist traits . . medicare , SSI . yet these are not socialist , they are paid for through our TAXES . ,/, welfare , public assistance , food banks , these verge on what could be considered a social system . but we are a country that is free to do as we please and when we please as long as we do not infringe upon another's right to do as they please. we are a capitalist form where if you want you can start a business or company to serve the public . or make a object that people want or need . which is under the control of the people who founded them . although there is , are regulations imposed by government be it fed. state or local . where in a socialist system the government basically runs every thing . where as seen around the world where a socialist system is in power these countries eventually self destruct . it is not possible to keep enough income coming into the system to give every one what they are "supposedly" entitled to . /,/,/,/ this is my theory from what I have seen in the past . now with that being said . all of them dem. campaigners spewing out all of their rhetorical comments about free this and free that . sure sound mighty tempting to agree with . although "WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY GOING TO COME FROM TO SUPPORT ALL THOSE FREEBIES ? 70% taxes on corp. ? sky high taxes on the wealthy ? with all of the dem. tax plans through out the years that I have been around . what has corp. done when their taxes reach a breaking point ? they say GOOD BY . and leave the country . so what then increase the taxes on the wealthy ? you say they can afford it . well I say . why should a person making a million a tear have to pay a higher percentage in taxes than a person making 50 thousand a year ? plus under a socialist system , how much of your pay are you willing to give up ? 60% or 70% ? I would not be able to live where I live at those rates . would you . oh will the socialist system pay my house payment? or would this system put people to work building housing complexes ? then we would all be the very same . except for the polititions and their cronies . they would be filthy rich and all of us "common folks would wind up as lower middle class or upper lower class . sounds like a really nice life to me . how about you ?

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Jul 11, 2019 17:18:11   #
moldyoldy
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Bingo! That's telling moldy. But your post has several important and material points and I don't believe moldy can handle more than one point at a time. He's kinda slow. But he's quick to post his stupid prepackaged memes.


I was willing to let the stupidity go, but sense you can't.

The statue was dedicated on October 28, 1886.
The Statue of Liberty is a figure of Libertas, a robed Roman liberty goddess. She holds a torch above her head with her right hand, and in her left hand carries a tabula ansata inscribed in Roman numerals with "JULY IV MDCCLXXVI" (July 4, 1776), the date of the U.S. Declaration of Independence. A broken shackle and chain lay at her feet as she walks forward, commemorating the recent national abolition of slavery.[7] The statue became an icon of freedom and of the United States, and a national park tourism destination. It is a welcoming sight to immigrants arriving from abroad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statue_of_Liberty

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For other uses, see In God We Trust (disambiguation).

1956 propaganda.
Capitalized "IN GOD WE TRUST" on the reverse of a United States twenty-dollar bill
"In God We Trust" is the official motto of the United States of America,[1][2][3] Nicaragua, and of the U.S. state of Florida. It was adopted as the United States' motto in 1956 as a replacement of or alternative to the unofficial motto of E pluribus unum, which was adopted when the Great Seal of the United States was created and adopted in 1782.[4][5]


1954 propaganda
1892 to 1923
(early revision by Bellamy)[2]
"I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
1923 to 1924[3]
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
1924 to 1954[3]
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
1954
(current version, per 4 U.S.C. §4)[4]
"I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
The Pledge of Allegiance of the United States is an expression of allegiance to the flag of the United States and the republic of the United States of America. It was originally composed by Captain George Thatcher Balch, a Union Army Officer during the Civil War and later a teacher of patriotism in New York City schools.[5][6] The form of the pledge used today was largely devised by Francis Bellamy in 1892, and formally adopted by Congress as the pledge in 1942.[7] The official name of The Pledge of Allegiance was adopted in 1945. The most recent alteration of its wording came on Flag Day in 1954, when the words "under God" were added.[8]

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Jul 11, 2019 18:06:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Let’s get down to the bare essentials, permie, to see how things ought to be. Before ‘governments’ came into existence, people made do by providing ‘stuff’ for each other, and that was a primitive economy. The hunter might give meat to the tiller of soil in exchange for some wheat.
Free exchanges.
Once people banded together and established governments, the way to become wealthy was to take from the weak.
Capitalism changed all that and established a much more sophisticated way of becoming wealthy - by pleasing your neighbor.
Fast forward to today - if slackers or ‘dregs’ don’t please their neighbor (or employer) why should others (including other union members) carry them?
Answer: they shouldn’t!
At their elemental level, these slackers aren’t carrying their own weight. They don’t belong in a capitalist economy. Their deficiencies are more suited to a socialist society where their lack of productivity will be masked by the collective.
Let’s get down to the bare essentials, permie, to ... (show quote)


So in order to halt your supposed problem, you want to remove all power for any organized labor movement..

let the workers be directed to a "take it or leave it" status with no recourse..

and you think that is a good idea?

so all workers can be underpaid and have no part of success..

employers are not friends of the employees..

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Jul 11, 2019 18:32:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
Do you honestly think Iran has ever kept an agreement with the US after w over threw their democratically elected leader and installed the Shah of Iran? Do you think they would disclose all of their nuclear sites? Iran is about 1/6th the size of the states; it is rugged and desolate. We can't even look at all of it with our satellites and they know exactly when we can see their stuff with accuracy to the minute. That's why we were flying the drone so close. Iran is the greatest sponsor of Islamic terrorism and would give their left nutt to have a nuke they could use on any one of us. That is the one thing, the most important thing, we have to prevent and we cannot even tell if they are on the verge of creating one or if they even have one. they are masters at deception. They would have us negotiating a total disarmament all the while planting one on US soil if it hasn't been already done. Their gov is Radical Islam, not just a bunch of Muslims trying to make a living. They still, even with ISIS gone, as being the Persian Empire, yet to be reborn; at least their relgious supreme leader(s) does.

So the Iranian deal was nothing but a political "thing" not worth the paper or computer bits it was stored on. Obama was told that. He knew and still knows that. When they talk about it's importance, they are just trying to placate the masses and garner votes. Trump was informed of all this and turned his generals loose on ISIS and disbanded the agreement. It is an acknowledgment that we all know it was worthless and we need to deal with Ian on realistic terms.

If it were anything but nukes, we could afford to play games, but it's still nukes. And just like N Korea, they need to understand that any use of said weapons will result in their country being melted into glass, for the sake of the world. That, is the game we have to play until be know for sure what they have and we simply don't.
Do you honestly think Iran has ever kept an agreem... (show quote)



Just to clear a point or two.. you seem to think I am a champion for Iran, i am not..

In my lizard brain i would like to turn Iran and the Saudis into slag heaps and be done with them..

Work on new problems in the ME..

but I do want the united States to be a law abiding nation. at least to its own laws and the laws with our allies..

Iran has plenty of reasons to see the United States as their enemy.. OK, we are..

Yes, the leadership is radical..

The people are not, they were the most westernized nation in the Mideast before everything was turned over to the crazy leaders.

A strategy of containment until the leadership died was a good and safer idea.

With the age of those leaders, we are not talking a long term to a new administration..

That plan was working..

Now we have nothing.. we do not have any attempt by the our leaders to have any negotiations.

A long list of demand they can not meet even just to sit down is in no way an effort to alleviate the problem..

Acts by Bolton, Pompeo and trump himself are showing no intent at all for any diplomacy..

War seems to be the key word...

Again the high road should be with the United States, not any other nation..



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Jul 11, 2019 18:35:25   #
waltmoreno
 
permafrost wrote:
So in order to halt your supposed problem, you want to remove all power for any organized labor movement..

let the workers be directed to a "take it or leave it" status with no recourse..

and you think that is a good idea?

so all workers can be underpaid and have no part of success..

employers are not friends of the employees..


Whaddytalking about? Employers are employing employees, aren’t they? That’s better than ‘being friends’ with them. Employers are talking with their money, not just BSing. “Money talks, BS walks.”
Maybe the employee can do it better. If so he’s free to start his own company and show his former employer ‘a better way’.
Unions have run their course and have outlived their usefulness. Especially public service unions which should be outlawed anyway.
In today’s booming economy employees are free to work where there isn’t an adversarial relationship with the employer. If they’re just malcontents they might have trouble finding any satisfactory job anywhere.
Employers and employees should both have one objective in mind: produce a better product at a competitive price. If the employee can’t sign onto that objective, he should go elsewhere. If he needs a union to advocate grievances for him to the employer, he’s already a poor fit and should go elsewhere. (With that type of attitude he likely won’t fit in anywhere in a capitalist economy. Maybe he should try socialism elsewhere.)

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