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Jul 9, 2019 10:08:18   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
permafrost wrote:
[T]wo points, make it better for them back home, not simply throw money at it, but deal somehow with corruption, crime, lost economy and the effects of climate change to name a few..

How to do that is for the state department to solve.

Why? Why is it an American problem in the first place? Since when were Americans responsible for the messes other people make in their own countries? Taking that a step further, if I make a mess in my house, I should be able to move into yours until you clean mine up, right?

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Jul 9, 2019 10:51:44   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Why? Why is it an American problem in the first place? Since when were Americans responsible for the messes other people make in their own countries? Taking that a step further, if I make a mess in my house, I should be able to move into yours until you clean mine up, right?



Breath deep and try to see the light in the fog..

Why,,, not my choice either... but it is what it is..

After WWll America pursued our own interests by being that world policeman..

Now, while the crime infested world of people in a corner of the world with no real economy and now loss of agriculture sales. (coffee/bananas)

Seeing all the families, people leaving the pits for the try at more of more in the US.. we can see that nothing is going to end that problem as it sits and worsens.

So following our own interests as we have consistently done forever..

We need to do something with them.

end the migration, use the migration, move them on to somewhere else...

I sort of like the last option, but as things are now, none of the ideas seem workable..

We also have to follow our own laws as they now exist.. we are quickly losing the role of world leader as we were for so long..

Letting the problem grow with no solution will hurt our own country more than it would help anyone..

So solving the immigration problem is more for our own good that only helping out some destitute people.

Overall, not a good day up in the north land..
Overall, not a good day up in the north land.....

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Jul 9, 2019 11:42:52   #
Carol Kelly
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Immigration: When Do We Get To Too Many?
July 8, 2019 1052

Authored by Kelli Ballard via LibertyNation.com,

The border crisis continues to be a growing problem with virtually no solution in sight. The two sides of the aisle are too busy fighting each other and President Donald Trump to get anything accomplished. The Dems want open borders while the rest of the U.S. wants to protect our borders and everyone inside them. Now a new bill is set to be introduced by the Democrats that will increase the number of refugees we take in each year to a whopping 100,000.
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The “Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act” (H.R. 3524) being introduced by Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) is an attempt to increase the number of at-risk immigrant refugees with an emphasis on speeding up the process.

According to the United Nations, 22,900 refugees were resettled in the U.S. in 2018. Let me repeat that: 22,900 refugees last year and the Dems want to increase that to 100,000! To further emphasize the enormity of this, these numbers only relate to refugees as defined by their need to escape their homeland due to imminent fear or threats of harm or death. This number does not take into account the hundreds of thousands of immigrants stampeding our southern border on a daily basis. Nor does this include immigrants and refugees outside of Central America. This astronomical number refers only to those seeking asylum from the Northern Triangle countries: El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

The American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) is, of course, 100% behind this bill, and added its own suggestions to be implemented. Said AILA Executive Director Benjamin Johnson:

“To make the system efficient and fair, AILA calls upon the government to hire and send more asylum officers to the border, provide migrants with legal counsel, and stop what has become a knee-jerk practice of detaining asylum seekers. H.R. 3524 also calls for hiring more immigration judges, but on its own, more judges won’t eliminate the enormous 900,000 case backlog slowing the courts. Congress should immediately restore the authority that DOJ stripped from immigration judges to manage their dockets and decide cases in an impartial and independent manner, and in the long term Congress should create an independent immigration court system separate from the Department of Justice. We welcome the ‘Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act’ and urge Congress to move the bill forward quickly.”

In other words, it is okay to bring in more officers to the border to assist refugees, but it is immoral to send more patrol agents to protect our citizens.

Our detention centers, otherwise known as “concentration camps” from such geniuses as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are already splitting at the seams with the overcrowding of migrants spilling into the nation. Dems have been having a glorified field day complete with crocodile tears relating the horrible, inhumane, and atrocious conditions where immigrants are being housed while we figure out what to do with them. Why, then, would sensible lawmakers ever consider upping the cap number of refugees allowed in each year? Increasing the number will not improve conditions at the border.

One of the elements of the proposed act is to make it so immigrants seeking asylum can do so from their own country so that they don’t have to make the dangerous trek. In theory, this seems like a good idea – as long as the preapproved seekers are still met with a rigorous in-person vetting system once they reach the U.S. The idea is that this will help reduce the congestion at the border by allowing people to prequalify.

The United Nations reports that currently, it takes between 12 and 24 months for asylum seekers to be vetted once they are recommended to the U.S.



Screening by eight federal agencies including the State Department, Department of Homeland Security and the FBI.
Six security database checks and biometric security checks screened against U.S. federal databases.
Medical screening.
Three in-person interviews with Department of Homeland Security officers.

Before our elected representatives start quadrupling the numbers of refugees the U.S. processes each year, perhaps a better idea would be to first find a solution to deal with the enormous numbers we already have in our country before inviting even more.
http://www.rawconservativeopionionsgodblessamerica.com





As long as our Border are still open to these Illegals, there is no telling just how many more will creep through!!!!! So this is what i think. What do Y'all think?
Immigration: When Do We Get To Too Many? br July 8... (show quote)


Think you hit the nail on the head with this.

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Jul 10, 2019 15:56:59   #
Lt. Rob Polans ret.
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Immigration: When Do We Get To Too Many?
July 8, 2019 1052

Authored by Kelli Ballard via LibertyNation.com,

The border crisis continues to be a growing problem with virtually no solution in sight. The two sides of the aisle are too busy fighting each other and President Donald Trump to get anything accomplished. The Dems want open borders while the rest of the U.S. wants to protect our borders and everyone inside them. Now a new bill is set to be introduced by the Democrats that will increase the number of refugees we take in each year to a whopping 100,000.
Breaking News
Be the first to know when big news breaks


The “Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act” (H.R. 3524) being introduced by Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) is an attempt to increase the number of at-risk immigrant refugees with an emphasis on speeding up the process.

According to the United Nations, 22,900 refugees were resettled in the U.S. in 2018. Let me repeat that: 22,900 refugees last year and the Dems want to increase that to 100,000! To further emphasize the enormity of this, these numbers only relate to refugees as defined by their need to escape their homeland due to imminent fear or threats of harm or death. This number does not take into account the hundreds of thousands of immigrants stampeding our southern border on a daily basis. Nor does this include immigrants and refugees outside of Central America. This astronomical number refers only to those seeking asylum from the Northern Triangle countries: El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

The American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) is, of course, 100% behind this bill, and added its own suggestions to be implemented. Said AILA Executive Director Benjamin Johnson:

“To make the system efficient and fair, AILA calls upon the government to hire and send more asylum officers to the border, provide migrants with legal counsel, and stop what has become a knee-jerk practice of detaining asylum seekers. H.R. 3524 also calls for hiring more immigration judges, but on its own, more judges won’t eliminate the enormous 900,000 case backlog slowing the courts. Congress should immediately restore the authority that DOJ stripped from immigration judges to manage their dockets and decide cases in an impartial and independent manner, and in the long term Congress should create an independent immigration court system separate from the Department of Justice. We welcome the ‘Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act’ and urge Congress to move the bill forward quickly.”

In other words, it is okay to bring in more officers to the border to assist refugees, but it is immoral to send more patrol agents to protect our citizens.

Our detention centers, otherwise known as “concentration camps” from such geniuses as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are already splitting at the seams with the overcrowding of migrants spilling into the nation. Dems have been having a glorified field day complete with crocodile tears relating the horrible, inhumane, and atrocious conditions where immigrants are being housed while we figure out what to do with them. Why, then, would sensible lawmakers ever consider upping the cap number of refugees allowed in each year? Increasing the number will not improve conditions at the border.

One of the elements of the proposed act is to make it so immigrants seeking asylum can do so from their own country so that they don’t have to make the dangerous trek. In theory, this seems like a good idea – as long as the preapproved seekers are still met with a rigorous in-person vetting system once they reach the U.S. The idea is that this will help reduce the congestion at the border by allowing people to prequalify.

The United Nations reports that currently, it takes between 12 and 24 months for asylum seekers to be vetted once they are recommended to the U.S.



Screening by eight federal agencies including the State Department, Department of Homeland Security and the FBI.
Six security database checks and biometric security checks screened against U.S. federal databases.
Medical screening.
Three in-person interviews with Department of Homeland Security officers.

Before our elected representatives start quadrupling the numbers of refugees the U.S. processes each year, perhaps a better idea would be to first find a solution to deal with the enormous numbers we already have in our country before inviting even more.
http://www.rawconservativeopionionsgodblessamerica.com





As long as our Border are still open to these Illegals, there is no telling just how many more will creep through!!!!! So this is what i think. What do Y'all think?
Immigration: When Do We Get To Too Many? br July 8... (show quote)


There were too many when Ike was president and he did something about it. Project Wetback. I think Carter and Clinton did too.



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Jul 10, 2019 16:08:00   #
herbie
 
HonorNCourage57 wrote:
Immigration: When Do We Get To Too Many?
July 8, 2019 1052

Authored by Kelli Ballard via LibertyNation.com,

The border crisis continues to be a growing problem with virtually no solution in sight. The two sides of the aisle are too busy fighting each other and President Donald Trump to get anything accomplished. The Dems want open borders while the rest of the U.S. wants to protect our borders and everyone inside them. Now a new bill is set to be introduced by the Democrats that will increase the number of refugees we take in each year to a whopping 100,000.
Breaking News
Be the first to know when big news breaks


The “Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act” (H.R. 3524) being introduced by Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) is an attempt to increase the number of at-risk immigrant refugees with an emphasis on speeding up the process.

According to the United Nations, 22,900 refugees were resettled in the U.S. in 2018. Let me repeat that: 22,900 refugees last year and the Dems want to increase that to 100,000! To further emphasize the enormity of this, these numbers only relate to refugees as defined by their need to escape their homeland due to imminent fear or threats of harm or death. This number does not take into account the hundreds of thousands of immigrants stampeding our southern border on a daily basis. Nor does this include immigrants and refugees outside of Central America. This astronomical number refers only to those seeking asylum from the Northern Triangle countries: El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras.

The American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA) is, of course, 100% behind this bill, and added its own suggestions to be implemented. Said AILA Executive Director Benjamin Johnson:

“To make the system efficient and fair, AILA calls upon the government to hire and send more asylum officers to the border, provide migrants with legal counsel, and stop what has become a knee-jerk practice of detaining asylum seekers. H.R. 3524 also calls for hiring more immigration judges, but on its own, more judges won’t eliminate the enormous 900,000 case backlog slowing the courts. Congress should immediately restore the authority that DOJ stripped from immigration judges to manage their dockets and decide cases in an impartial and independent manner, and in the long term Congress should create an independent immigration court system separate from the Department of Justice. We welcome the ‘Northern Triangle and Border Stabilization Act’ and urge Congress to move the bill forward quickly.”

In other words, it is okay to bring in more officers to the border to assist refugees, but it is immoral to send more patrol agents to protect our citizens.

Our detention centers, otherwise known as “concentration camps” from such geniuses as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are already splitting at the seams with the overcrowding of migrants spilling into the nation. Dems have been having a glorified field day complete with crocodile tears relating the horrible, inhumane, and atrocious conditions where immigrants are being housed while we figure out what to do with them. Why, then, would sensible lawmakers ever consider upping the cap number of refugees allowed in each year? Increasing the number will not improve conditions at the border.

One of the elements of the proposed act is to make it so immigrants seeking asylum can do so from their own country so that they don’t have to make the dangerous trek. In theory, this seems like a good idea – as long as the preapproved seekers are still met with a rigorous in-person vetting system once they reach the U.S. The idea is that this will help reduce the congestion at the border by allowing people to prequalify.

The United Nations reports that currently, it takes between 12 and 24 months for asylum seekers to be vetted once they are recommended to the U.S.



Screening by eight federal agencies including the State Department, Department of Homeland Security and the FBI.
Six security database checks and biometric security checks screened against U.S. federal databases.
Medical screening.
Three in-person interviews with Department of Homeland Security officers.

Before our elected representatives start quadrupling the numbers of refugees the U.S. processes each year, perhaps a better idea would be to first find a solution to deal with the enormous numbers we already have in our country before inviting even more.
http://www.rawconservativeopionionsgodblessamerica.com





As long as our Border are still open to these Illegals, there is no telling just how many more will creep through!!!!! So this is what i think. What do Y'all think?
Immigration: When Do We Get To Too Many? br July 8... (show quote)


100,000`s of thousands daily coming into the US, you are making that up. no way that many are coming in everyday, so you are as bad as Trump at telling the truth ?

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Jul 10, 2019 16:27:10   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
herbie wrote:
100,000`s of thousands daily coming into the US, you are making that up. no way that many are coming in everyday, so you are as bad as Trump at telling the truth ?

That's 100,000 refugees a year. Illegals are over 100,000 a month. That's way over a million a year. Every year, year in and year out. Sleep tight...

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Jul 10, 2019 16:32:09   #
Carol Kelly
 
Larai wrote:
Most likely yes.. they just passed a bill to send 4.6 billion to the border to help with necessities food water.. more shelters.. with just the ones that are there Now!! at 100,000 a year We will be, if not already, a minority in this country.. we already are really.. This countries resources are slim enough for those that are here much less bringing in more!! Totally rediculous.. gives a clear idea of what part of the human anatomy they have their heads buried.. Also, AOC and her ilk voted down that bill then turn around and go down there and LIE about the conditions.. saying that money won't fix the problem.. Maybe not..but it's a start!!.. she is an idiot every day of the week!..
Most likely yes.. they just passed a bill to send ... (show quote)


We didn’t invite them to our border party, so why should we give them party favors instead of the boot?

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Jul 10, 2019 16:57:58   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Carol Kelly wrote:
We didn’t invite them to our border party, so why should we give them party favors instead of the boot?


I know I didn't invite them.. so yes the Boot.. for sure..As far as party favors.. I assume you are referring to the 4.6 billion.. Yea that one kinda blew me away too..and its unclear exactly WHERE that money is going or supposed to go.. I'm sure liberals will find a way to slip some provisions in it.. its what they do.. ALL of those liberals!.. First they blame Trump for a "Manufactured crisis" then they go down spew lies to all that will listen.. and Now as far as they are concerned it's a crisis..It's been a crisis in this country since before I was even born.. So.. I guess it's only a crisis if the Libs say it is..and their solution.. sure bring um on we'll give them Free everything.. so we can count on their vote.. but ILLEGALS aren't allowed to vote in this country..& last I checked that hasn't changed..

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Jul 10, 2019 17:01:28   #
Larai Loc: Fallon, NV
 
Larai wrote:
I know I didn't invite them.. so yes the Boot.. for sure..As far as party favors.. I assume you are referring to the 4.6 billion.. Yea that one kinda blew me away too..and its unclear exactly WHERE that money is going or supposed to go.. I'm sure liberals will find a way to slip some provisions in it.. its what they do.. ALL of those liberals!.. First they blame Trump for a "Manufactured crisis" then they go down spew lies to all that will listen.. and Now as far as they are concerned it's a crisis..It's been a crisis in this country since before I was even born.. So.. I guess it's only a crisis if the Libs say it is..and their solution.. sure bring um on we'll give them Free everything.. so we can count on their vote.. but ILLEGALS aren't allowed to vote in this country..& last I checked that hasn't changed..
I know I didn't invite them.. so yes the Boot.. fo... (show quote)

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