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Jun 17, 2019 12:05:09   #
bahmer
 
World’s Leading Gay Biblical Theologian Defends Pete Buttigieg!
By Dr. Don Boys - June 17, 2019

Radical homosexuals, with missionary zeal, declare that David and Jonathan were lovers but the LGBTQ crowd must twist the Bible and common sense like a pretzel to spin their myth and excuse their foul practices.

Homosexuals hope they can spin it enough to send one of their own to the White House but if Pete and Mrs. Pete make it to the White House, they are almost inviting God’s judgment on America.

Surely, sane, sensible, and sober Americans would not send a sodomite to the White House.

I received a missive from a man who claimed to be “World’s Leading Gay BIBLICAL Theologian Who is Gay.” This was his reaction to my article titled, “Pete, Since You Brought it Up, How Gay Are You?” The “gay” theologian declared that David and Jonathan’s “first Gay marriage in the Bible is the MOST DOCUMENTED MARRIAGE and BEST DOCUMENTED MARRIAGE in the entire Bible.”

Homosexuals do much yelling but he’s dreaming, disingenuous, or delusional.

In his first 10 lines, he managed to misspell Jonathan’s name twice. However, I am not concerned with his ignorance (or carelessness) or even his arrogance but his blasphemous, dishonest, and reckless treatment of the Bible.

This dude is really ripe. He wipes the purple Kool Aid from his lips and asserts:

“I especially like I Samuel 18:4 where Jonathon (sic) takes off all his clothes and shows David his naked genitals.”
But, of course, the Bible does not say anything similar to that. It is a perversion of Scripture. That perversion is reflected by homosexuals in all areas—they pervert history, sex, the Bible, and common sense. Anything to justify their chosen, wicked lifestyle.

My critic declares that this is the first “gay” marriage in the Bible and is “the most documented marriage and best documented marriage in the entire Bible, including the heterosexual ones.” He thinks that his hyperbole will impress me and hopes to appear almost normal by making the Bible say something it does not say. There was no marriage, no sex; only a brotherhood covenant between two friends.

In I Samuel 18:4, Jonathan took off his outer garments and gave them to David along with his sword, girdle, and bow continuing a very ancient practice. For sure, he did not expose his naked body to David.

David, having married Jonathan’s sister, had developed a relationship with him that was closer than a brother. This is shocking when you realize that Jonathan was the heir to the throne and David was a young, poorly dressed, awkward shepherd who was a rival to that throne. Yet, it was a friendship that grew so much that Jonathan loved him as his own soul. Jonathan was fearful that his mentally disturbed father might actually take the life of David.

Jonathan removed his robe and put it on David so that David was now clothed in princely attire instead of his rough, country attire. Such covenants of brotherhood were frequent in the East and were confirmed in the presence of witnesses that the persons covenanting would be sworn brothers for life.

For an ordinary person to receive any part of the dress which had been worn by a sovereign, or his eldest son was deemed the highest honor which could be conferred on a citizen. The girdle, being connected with the sword and the bow, was considered as being part of the military dress, and great value was attached to it in the East. Jonathan was recognizing David as a dear friend and a military hero. After all, he had recently killed a giant that no one else was willing to attempt.

If anyone in Israel had reason to dislike David, it was Jonathan. David was not trained for a royal court. He pitched aside his common staff and sling replacing them with Jonathan’s sword and bow. David was now ready for any court appearance and for any battle.

This giving of apparel by an authority is revealed in Esther 6:8:

“Let the royal apparel be brought which the king useth to wear, and the horse that the king rideth upon, and the crown royal which is set upon his head.”
Another biblical example is seen in Genesis 41:42 when Pharaoh removed his ring and put it on the finger of Joseph after Pharaoh had placed him over all the land of Egypt.

The giving of clothes and military equipment was practiced in the days of Homer and the Trojan wars. This was done to confer dignity and distinction to a deserving person. Homer revealed this practice, among other examples, when Ulysses received a gift of the armor from Meriones.

Obviously, sex was not involved in the ancient practice of covenant friendship by the giving of personal items as a token of brotherhood. David and Jonathan were not homosexuals.

Obviously, homosexuals are not good Bible expositors—not even the “world’s leading ‘gay’ biblical theologian who is ‘gay’.” I wonder if our “leading ‘gay’ theologian” knows the meaning of superfluous. How about redundant? Surely he is familiar with unnecessary.

Another reason David and Jonathan were not homosexuals is because the Bible condemned David’s adultery with Bathsheba, so it would surely not be silent about sodomy. But there is no condemnation of David’s homosexuality because he was not a homosexual. You may remember that David was attracted to women especially Bathsheba. Moreover, he had seven wives plus concubines according to I Chronicles 3. David was not sexually attracted to men; however, God never approved of his multiple wives and concubines or of perversion between two men or two women. In fact, God showed hot anger at perversion as per the case of Sodom and Gomorrah.

I remind my readers that the parties have stopped in Sodom. Sooner or later, they all end.

God’s clear plan for the human race is for a man to have one wife and treat her like a queen for a lifetime.

The “gay” clown posing as a Bible scholar even says King Saul accused Jonathan of “being gay and having sex with David in I Samuel 20:30-32. And Jonathan doesn’t deny it.” All right, I’ll admit that Jonathan did not deny it but he didn’t deny it because Saul never accused him of it. There was a very important annual family dinner that David missed causing a fuss at the royal table between Saul and Jonathan. Saul tried to kill his son and Jonathan left in a huff without eating. But it had nothing to do with sex.

Have you noticed that with homosexuals everything has to do with sex?

But it gets worse because the “World’s Leading Gay Biblical theologian Who is Gay” further wrote:

“David and Jonathan laid in the field having sex until David climaxed.”
He made that up out of I Samuel 20:41 which does not mention sex. National events were moving fast and King Saul was often mentally unstable and had tried to kill both his son and David. Soon, Israel would be humiliated and defeated in battle and Saul, Jonathan, and his brothers would be dead on the slopes of Mount Gilboa.

Both David and Jonathan knew events were moving toward a showdown and they wept and kissed each other before they separated. The text says that David “exceeded” not “climaxed.” David was more emotional than Jonathan knowing that Jonathan would soon be dead. David knew he was about to lose his dearest friend and wept bitter tears more profusely than Jonathan.

It was a climax but not a sexual climax.

The only acceptable, appropriate, and approved sex in the Bible is between a married man and woman. All other sex is evil.

Homosexuals, peddling their hokum like the world’s leading “gay” theologian, are trying to use darkness to extinguish the light but it won’t work—light expels darkness.

That goes for Pete as well.

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Jun 17, 2019 12:15:38   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
bahmer wrote:
World’s Leading Gay Biblical Theologian Defends Pete Buttigieg!
By Dr. Don Boys - June 17, 2019

Radical homosexuals, with missionary zeal, declare that David and Jonathan were lovers but the LGBTQ crowd must twist the Bible and common sense like a pretzel to spin their myth and excuse their foul practices.

Homosexuals hope they can spin it enough to send one of their own to the White House but if Pete and Mrs. Pete make it to the White House, they are almost inviting God’s judgment on America.

Surely, sane, sensible, and sober Americans would not send a sodomite to the White House.

I received a missive from a man who claimed to be “World’s Leading Gay BIBLICAL Theologian Who is Gay.” This was his reaction to my article titled, “Pete, Since You Brought it Up, How Gay Are You?” The “gay” theologian declared that David and Jonathan’s “first Gay marriage in the Bible is the MOST DOCUMENTED MARRIAGE and BEST DOCUMENTED MARRIAGE in the entire Bible.”

Homosexuals do much yelling but he’s dreaming, disingenuous, or delusional.

In his first 10 lines, he managed to misspell Jonathan’s name twice. However, I am not concerned with his ignorance (or carelessness) or even his arrogance but his blasphemous, dishonest, and reckless treatment of the Bible.

This dude is really ripe. He wipes the purple Kool Aid from his lips and asserts:

“I especially like I Samuel 18:4 where Jonathon (sic) takes off all his clothes and shows David his naked genitals.”
But, of course, the Bible does not say anything similar to that. It is a perversion of Scripture. That perversion is reflected by homosexuals in all areas—they pervert history, sex, the Bible, and common sense. Anything to justify their chosen, wicked lifestyle.

My critic declares that this is the first “gay” marriage in the Bible and is “the most documented marriage and best documented marriage in the entire Bible, including the heterosexual ones.” He thinks that his hyperbole will impress me and hopes to appear almost normal by making the Bible say something it does not say. There was no marriage, no sex; only a brotherhood covenant between two friends.

In I Samuel 18:4, Jonathan took off his outer garments and gave them to David along with his sword, girdle, and bow continuing a very ancient practice. For sure, he did not expose his naked body to David.

David, having married Jonathan’s sister, had developed a relationship with him that was closer than a brother. This is shocking when you realize that Jonathan was the heir to the throne and David was a young, poorly dressed, awkward shepherd who was a rival to that throne. Yet, it was a friendship that grew so much that Jonathan loved him as his own soul. Jonathan was fearful that his mentally disturbed father might actually take the life of David.

Jonathan removed his robe and put it on David so that David was now clothed in princely attire instead of his rough, country attire. Such covenants of brotherhood were frequent in the East and were confirmed in the presence of witnesses that the persons covenanting would be sworn brothers for life.

For an ordinary person to receive any part of the dress which had been worn by a sovereign, or his eldest son was deemed the highest honor which could be conferred on a citizen. The girdle, being connected with the sword and the bow, was considered as being part of the military dress, and great value was attached to it in the East. Jonathan was recognizing David as a dear friend and a military hero. After all, he had recently killed a giant that no one else was willing to attempt.

If anyone in Israel had reason to dislike David, it was Jonathan. David was not trained for a royal court. He pitched aside his common staff and sling replacing them with Jonathan’s sword and bow. David was now ready for any court appearance and for any battle.

This giving of apparel by an authority is revealed in Esther 6:8:

“Let the royal apparel be brought which the king useth to wear, and the horse that the king rideth upon, and the crown royal which is set upon his head.”
Another biblical example is seen in Genesis 41:42 when Pharaoh removed his ring and put it on the finger of Joseph after Pharaoh had placed him over all the land of Egypt.

The giving of clothes and military equipment was practiced in the days of Homer and the Trojan wars. This was done to confer dignity and distinction to a deserving person. Homer revealed this practice, among other examples, when Ulysses received a gift of the armor from Meriones.

Obviously, sex was not involved in the ancient practice of covenant friendship by the giving of personal items as a token of brotherhood. David and Jonathan were not homosexuals.

Obviously, homosexuals are not good Bible expositors—not even the “world’s leading ‘gay’ biblical theologian who is ‘gay’.” I wonder if our “leading ‘gay’ theologian” knows the meaning of superfluous. How about redundant? Surely he is familiar with unnecessary.

Another reason David and Jonathan were not homosexuals is because the Bible condemned David’s adultery with Bathsheba, so it would surely not be silent about sodomy. But there is no condemnation of David’s homosexuality because he was not a homosexual. You may remember that David was attracted to women especially Bathsheba. Moreover, he had seven wives plus concubines according to I Chronicles 3. David was not sexually attracted to men; however, God never approved of his multiple wives and concubines or of perversion between two men or two women. In fact, God showed hot anger at perversion as per the case of Sodom and Gomorrah.

I remind my readers that the parties have stopped in Sodom. Sooner or later, they all end.

God’s clear plan for the human race is for a man to have one wife and treat her like a queen for a lifetime.

The “gay” clown posing as a Bible scholar even says King Saul accused Jonathan of “being gay and having sex with David in I Samuel 20:30-32. And Jonathan doesn’t deny it.” All right, I’ll admit that Jonathan did not deny it but he didn’t deny it because Saul never accused him of it. There was a very important annual family dinner that David missed causing a fuss at the royal table between Saul and Jonathan. Saul tried to kill his son and Jonathan left in a huff without eating. But it had nothing to do with sex.

Have you noticed that with homosexuals everything has to do with sex?

But it gets worse because the “World’s Leading Gay Biblical theologian Who is Gay” further wrote:

“David and Jonathan laid in the field having sex until David climaxed.”
He made that up out of I Samuel 20:41 which does not mention sex. National events were moving fast and King Saul was often mentally unstable and had tried to kill both his son and David. Soon, Israel would be humiliated and defeated in battle and Saul, Jonathan, and his brothers would be dead on the slopes of Mount Gilboa.

Both David and Jonathan knew events were moving toward a showdown and they wept and kissed each other before they separated. The text says that David “exceeded” not “climaxed.” David was more emotional than Jonathan knowing that Jonathan would soon be dead. David knew he was about to lose his dearest friend and wept bitter tears more profusely than Jonathan.

It was a climax but not a sexual climax.

The only acceptable, appropriate, and approved sex in the Bible is between a married man and woman. All other sex is evil.

Homosexuals, peddling their hokum like the world’s leading “gay” theologian, are trying to use darkness to extinguish the light but it won’t work—light expels darkness.

That goes for Pete as well.
World’s Leading Gay Biblical Theologian Defends Pe... (show quote)


Thank you so much for clarifying this in clear language that everyone can understand.

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Jun 17, 2019 12:23:25   #
bahmer
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Thank you so much for clarifying this in clear language that everyone can understand.


Your welcome but I look forward to the local homosexuals to come on and refute this.

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Jun 17, 2019 12:50:09   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
bahmer wrote:
World’s Leading Gay Biblical Theologian Defends Pete Buttigieg!
By Dr. Don Boys - June 17, 2019

Radical homosexuals, with missionary zeal, declare that David and Jonathan were lovers but the LGBTQ crowd must twist the Bible and common sense like a pretzel to spin their myth and excuse their foul practices.

Homosexuals hope they can spin it enough to send one of their own to the White House but if Pete and Mrs. Pete make it to the White House, they are almost inviting God’s judgment on America.

Surely, sane, sensible, and sober Americans would not send a sodomite to the White House.

I received a missive from a man who claimed to be “World’s Leading Gay BIBLICAL Theologian Who is Gay.” This was his reaction to my article titled, “Pete, Since You Brought it Up, How Gay Are You?” The “gay” theologian declared that David and Jonathan’s “first Gay marriage in the Bible is the MOST DOCUMENTED MARRIAGE and BEST DOCUMENTED MARRIAGE in the entire Bible.”

Homosexuals do much yelling but he’s dreaming, disingenuous, or delusional.

In his first 10 lines, he managed to misspell Jonathan’s name twice. However, I am not concerned with his ignorance (or carelessness) or even his arrogance but his blasphemous, dishonest, and reckless treatment of the Bible.

This dude is really ripe. He wipes the purple Kool Aid from his lips and asserts:

“I especially like I Samuel 18:4 where Jonathon (sic) takes off all his clothes and shows David his naked genitals.”
But, of course, the Bible does not say anything similar to that. It is a perversion of Scripture. That perversion is reflected by homosexuals in all areas—they pervert history, sex, the Bible, and common sense. Anything to justify their chosen, wicked lifestyle.

My critic declares that this is the first “gay” marriage in the Bible and is “the most documented marriage and best documented marriage in the entire Bible, including the heterosexual ones.” He thinks that his hyperbole will impress me and hopes to appear almost normal by making the Bible say something it does not say. There was no marriage, no sex; only a brotherhood covenant between two friends.

In I Samuel 18:4, Jonathan took off his outer garments and gave them to David along with his sword, girdle, and bow continuing a very ancient practice. For sure, he did not expose his naked body to David.

David, having married Jonathan’s sister, had developed a relationship with him that was closer than a brother. This is shocking when you realize that Jonathan was the heir to the throne and David was a young, poorly dressed, awkward shepherd who was a rival to that throne. Yet, it was a friendship that grew so much that Jonathan loved him as his own soul. Jonathan was fearful that his mentally disturbed father might actually take the life of David.

Jonathan removed his robe and put it on David so that David was now clothed in princely attire instead of his rough, country attire. Such covenants of brotherhood were frequent in the East and were confirmed in the presence of witnesses that the persons covenanting would be sworn brothers for life.

For an ordinary person to receive any part of the dress which had been worn by a sovereign, or his eldest son was deemed the highest honor which could be conferred on a citizen. The girdle, being connected with the sword and the bow, was considered as being part of the military dress, and great value was attached to it in the East. Jonathan was recognizing David as a dear friend and a military hero. After all, he had recently killed a giant that no one else was willing to attempt.

If anyone in Israel had reason to dislike David, it was Jonathan. David was not trained for a royal court. He pitched aside his common staff and sling replacing them with Jonathan’s sword and bow. David was now ready for any court appearance and for any battle.

This giving of apparel by an authority is revealed in Esther 6:8:

“Let the royal apparel be brought which the king useth to wear, and the horse that the king rideth upon, and the crown royal which is set upon his head.”
Another biblical example is seen in Genesis 41:42 when Pharaoh removed his ring and put it on the finger of Joseph after Pharaoh had placed him over all the land of Egypt.

The giving of clothes and military equipment was practiced in the days of Homer and the Trojan wars. This was done to confer dignity and distinction to a deserving person. Homer revealed this practice, among other examples, when Ulysses received a gift of the armor from Meriones.

Obviously, sex was not involved in the ancient practice of covenant friendship by the giving of personal items as a token of brotherhood. David and Jonathan were not homosexuals.

Obviously, homosexuals are not good Bible expositors—not even the “world’s leading ‘gay’ biblical theologian who is ‘gay’.” I wonder if our “leading ‘gay’ theologian” knows the meaning of superfluous. How about redundant? Surely he is familiar with unnecessary.

Another reason David and Jonathan were not homosexuals is because the Bible condemned David’s adultery with Bathsheba, so it would surely not be silent about sodomy. But there is no condemnation of David’s homosexuality because he was not a homosexual. You may remember that David was attracted to women especially Bathsheba. Moreover, he had seven wives plus concubines according to I Chronicles 3. David was not sexually attracted to men; however, God never approved of his multiple wives and concubines or of perversion between two men or two women. In fact, God showed hot anger at perversion as per the case of Sodom and Gomorrah.

I remind my readers that the parties have stopped in Sodom. Sooner or later, they all end.

God’s clear plan for the human race is for a man to have one wife and treat her like a queen for a lifetime.

The “gay” clown posing as a Bible scholar even says King Saul accused Jonathan of “being gay and having sex with David in I Samuel 20:30-32. And Jonathan doesn’t deny it.” All right, I’ll admit that Jonathan did not deny it but he didn’t deny it because Saul never accused him of it. There was a very important annual family dinner that David missed causing a fuss at the royal table between Saul and Jonathan. Saul tried to kill his son and Jonathan left in a huff without eating. But it had nothing to do with sex.

Have you noticed that with homosexuals everything has to do with sex?

But it gets worse because the “World’s Leading Gay Biblical theologian Who is Gay” further wrote:

“David and Jonathan laid in the field having sex until David climaxed.”
He made that up out of I Samuel 20:41 which does not mention sex. National events were moving fast and King Saul was often mentally unstable and had tried to kill both his son and David. Soon, Israel would be humiliated and defeated in battle and Saul, Jonathan, and his brothers would be dead on the slopes of Mount Gilboa.

Both David and Jonathan knew events were moving toward a showdown and they wept and kissed each other before they separated. The text says that David “exceeded” not “climaxed.” David was more emotional than Jonathan knowing that Jonathan would soon be dead. David knew he was about to lose his dearest friend and wept bitter tears more profusely than Jonathan.

It was a climax but not a sexual climax.

The only acceptable, appropriate, and approved sex in the Bible is between a married man and woman. All other sex is evil.

Homosexuals, peddling their hokum like the world’s leading “gay” theologian, are trying to use darkness to extinguish the light but it won’t work—light expels darkness.

That goes for Pete as well.
World’s Leading Gay Biblical Theologian Defends Pe... (show quote)


Indeed, disturbing, but that is what happens when people cherry pick the bible to 'prove' whatever they see as truth. David and Johnathan were not "lovers" as you clearly state. They were bound in the love of G*d, not in love with flesh. Also, the person you quoted misrepresented 1 Samuel.... the robe is a common English term, what the bible says is he removed his kethoneth. This word comes from a word that means "to cover", and describes an outer garment. I should note that Johnathan also gave David his girdle or belt. This was quite a gift because this was no normal girdle. The word used in this instance is chagowr. A chagowr commonly describes an expensive girdle, a battle belt (2 Sam. 18:11). It was an honor to receive one and was even used as criteria for eligibility to fight in battle (2 Kings 3:21) implying that it must be earned.

There are people who try to make a love between friends as a homosexual act, but in truth, one can love a friend dearly without having desire for them sexually. Many pervert these friendships to "prove" that their own way of life can be considered "normal." Keep posting articles like this because it is important for the truth to be told.

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Jun 17, 2019 12:58:50   #
bahmer
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Indeed, disturbing, but that is what happens when people cherry pick the bible to 'prove' whatever they see as truth. David and Johnathan were not "lovers" as you clearly state. They were bound in the love of G*d, not in love with flesh. Also, the person you quoted misrepresented 1 Samuel.... the robe is a common English term, what the bible says is he removed his kethoneth. This word comes from a word that means "to cover", and describes an outer garment. I should note that Johnathan also gave David his girdle or belt. This was quite a gift because this was no normal girdle. The word used in this instance is chagowr. A chagowr commonly describes an expensive girdle, a battle belt (2 Sam. 18:11). It was an honor to receive one and was even used as criteria for eligibility to fight in battle (2 Kings 3:21) implying that it must be earned.

There are people who try to make a love between friends as a homosexual act, but in truth, one can love a friend dearly without having desire for them sexually. Many pervert these friendships to "prove" that their own way of life can be considered "normal." Keep posting articles like this because it is important for the truth to be told.
Indeed, disturbing, but that is what happens when ... (show quote)


I sure wish that I had learned Hebrew when I was younger I bet reading the bible in Hebrew would add so much more than just reading it in the KJV. I am sure there is much that your Papa taught you when you were young and sitting in his office. You are a very fortunate lady to have a Papa such as you had. Thanks for clarifying these for us it makes more sense to me now.

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Jun 17, 2019 13:02:55   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Indeed, disturbing, but that is what happens when people cherry pick the bible to 'prove' whatever they see as truth. David and Johnathan were not "lovers" as you clearly state. They were bound in the love of G*d, not in love with flesh. Also, the person you quoted misrepresented 1 Samuel.... the robe is a common English term, what the bible says is he removed his kethoneth. This word comes from a word that means "to cover", and describes an outer garment. I should note that Johnathan also gave David his girdle or belt. This was quite a gift because this was no normal girdle. The word used in this instance is chagowr. A chagowr commonly describes an expensive girdle, a battle belt (2 Sam. 18:11). It was an honor to receive one and was even used as criteria for eligibility to fight in battle (2 Kings 3:21) implying that it must be earned.

There are people who try to make a love between friends as a homosexual act, but in truth, one can love a friend dearly without having desire for them sexually. Many pervert these friendships to "prove" that their own way of life can be considered "normal." Keep posting articles like this because it is important for the truth to be told.
Indeed, disturbing, but that is what happens when ... (show quote)


I agree with you, but the homosexual activists apparently consider that all interactions between two or more people are sexual in nature, and will not accept that there is a difference between sexual love and the love that brothers, sisters and friends have for each other. That kind of love is often deeper and stronger than any sexual love could ever be, because it has differences bases and boundaries.

SWMBO

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Jun 17, 2019 13:16:10   #
waltmoreno
 
bahmer wrote:
Your welcome but I look forward to the local homosexuals to come on and refute this.


Where's kemmer? What does he have to say to refute this?

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Jun 17, 2019 13:28:32   #
bahmer
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Where's kemmer? What does he have to say to refute this?


Probably nothing.

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Jun 17, 2019 15:10:11   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
bahmer wrote:
I sure wish that I had learned Hebrew when I was younger I bet reading the bible in Hebrew would add so much more than just reading it in the KJV. I am sure there is much that your Papa taught you when you were young and sitting in his office. You are a very fortunate lady to have a Papa such as you had. Thanks for clarifying these for us it makes more sense to me now.


Papa was a "one of a kind" and he was a task master, but patient to a fault. Hebrew is a fairly easy language to learn.... much easier than English.

I find that many people, like the one in your opening, know the quotes that they can use to make the bible perverse. So, we depend on people like yourself to put the light back on. In the end days, we will see this more and more. Sadly, many will listen and not even look for the truth. When you shine the light, you make their jobs so much harder. So.... don't stop, continue to spread the truth!!

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Jun 17, 2019 15:19:21   #
bahmer
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Papa was a "one of a kind" and he was a task master, but patient to a fault. Hebrew is a fairly easy language to learn.... much easier than English.

I find that many people, like the one in your opening, know the quotes that they can use to make the bible perverse. So, we depend on people like yourself to put the light back on. In the end days, we will see this more and more. Sadly, many will listen and not even look for the truth. When you shine the light, you make their jobs so much harder. So.... don't stop, continue to spread the truth!!
Papa was a "one of a kind" and he was a ... (show quote)


Thank you for that and you also keep illuminating the scriptures and the words as you have just done as it brings more light and life to shine on the word of G*d. I appreciate your input at any time Pennylynn thanks again.

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Jun 17, 2019 15:24:41   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
no propaganda please wrote:
I agree with you, but the homosexual activists apparently consider that all interactions between two or more people are sexual in nature, and will not accept that there is a difference between sexual love and the love that brothers, sisters and friends have for each other. That kind of love is often deeper and stronger than any sexual love could ever be, because it has differences bases and boundaries.

SWMBO
I agree with you, but the homosexual activists app... (show quote)


Sexual "love" is fleeting. Too often people fall into lust rather than love. Love is built over time, I recall being attracted to my husband.... but, love came later. Even friendship is built on a love that comes with time. We have come full circle with homosexuals. In early Rome and Greece it was "accepted as normal." And both civilizations fell. In Europe where it is "normal" those nations are on edge of collapse to become muslim nations. I hope with the new age acceptance America is not being set up for a fall.

On another note.... how is your husband?? I have not seen him on OPP lately. I trust he is well?

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Jun 17, 2019 16:00:10   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Pennylynn wrote:
Sexual "love" is fleeting. Too often people fall into lust rather than love. Love is built over time, I recall being attracted to my husband.... but, love came later. Even friendship is built on a love that comes with time. We have come full circle with homosexuals. In early Rome and Greece it was "accepted as normal." And both civilizations fell. In Europe where it is "normal" those nations are on edge of collapse to become muslim nations. I hope with the new age acceptance America is not being set up for a fall.

On another note.... how is your husband?? I have not seen him on OPP lately. I trust he is well?
Sexual "love" is fleeting. Too often pe... (show quote)


Thank you for asking. Now that the garden is in, hopefully he will have a little more energy for other things. Several years ago we expanded the garden which in on our one large flat space big enough to work it at 2 1/2 acres, with the help of several friends, so NPP has tried to do more gardening than he should do, and gets frustrated when he over does it. The garden is a project of several other people besides us, and provides fresh food for all of us plus several older people who can't grow their own any more, so we don't want to reduce its size, and fortunately there are a few younger people to help, including both David and Pete, both of whom take great pride in what they are doing, which is really what it is about with them.

Both of us are not accustomed to sitting around watching TV (we don't even have one any longer) I'd rather die of over work than die of boredom.

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Jun 17, 2019 16:23:56   #
Boo_Boo Loc: Jellystone
 
no propaganda please wrote:
Thank you for asking. Now that the garden is in, hopefully he will have a little more energy for other things. Several years ago we expanded the garden which in on our one large flat space big enough to work it at 2 1/2 acres, with the help of several friends, so NPP has tried to do more gardening than he should do, and gets frustrated when he over does it. The garden is a project of several other people besides us, and provides fresh food for all of us plus several older people who can't grow their own any more, so we don't want to reduce its size, and fortunately there are a few younger people to help, including both David and Pete, both of whom take great pride in what they are doing, which is really what it is about with them.

Both of us are not accustomed to sitting around watching TV (we don't even have one any longer) I'd rather die of over work than die of boredom.
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WOW, that is a big garden... healthy food!!! I just finished putting in my garden, but I had a lot of help. I have so many relatives in the area and they have started to fuss over me after I had a stroke. We grow food for the homeless shelter and about a dozen folks.... of course they earn it by harvesting what they need. I love to garden, but I am lazy so I use the hugelkultur and straw garden methods.... no weeding, watering, and only gets turned every 5 years. As soon as the soil registers 60 it is time to plant.

Do tell NPP to take care and not overdo it.

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Jun 17, 2019 16:44:36   #
no propaganda please Loc: moon orbiting the third rock from the sun
 
Pennylynn wrote:
WOW, that is a big garden... healthy food!!! I just finished putting in my garden, but I had a lot of help. I have so many relatives in the area and they have started to fuss over me after I had a stroke. We grow food for the homeless shelter and about a dozen folks.... of course they earn it by harvesting what they need. I love to garden, but I am lazy so I use the hugelkultur and straw garden methods.... no weeding, watering, and only gets turned every 5 years. As soon as the soil registers 60 it is time to plant.

Do tell NPP to take care and not overdo it.
WOW, that is a big garden... healthy food!!! I ju... (show quote)


Will do. The garden was one of the first things we put in once we got settled and have enlarged every couple of years since then. since most of the land is mountains with few flat spaces and we needed a flat place for the double wide we live in, we did not think about other flat places until we started walking the full almost 100 acres. The big flat place is accessible but not net to the house, actually closer to the goat neighbors boundary. So we all work together on this project, as well as both working on brewing beer and making wine. Most of the people around here are great and we help each other. A couple of them are useless, including one family who live in a run down single wide full of rats and mice and all they want to do is stay stoned. Fortunately they are terrified of the two mastiffs we have and the Belgian Malinois the goat people have. One of our Mastiffs is getting old and really slowing down, but we just found a litter that was recently born and reserved a puppy. I think he will be as big as Tank (145 pounds) which should discourage the stoners.

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Jun 17, 2019 18:00:58   #
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Pennylynn wrote:
Indeed, disturbing, but that is what happens when people cherry pick the bible to 'prove' whatever they see as truth. David and Johnathan were not "lovers" as you clearly state. They were bound in the love of G*d, not in love with flesh. Also, the person you quoted misrepresented 1 Samuel.... the robe is a common English term, what the bible says is he removed his kethoneth. This word comes from a word that means "to cover", and describes an outer garment. I should note that Johnathan also gave David his girdle or belt. This was quite a gift because this was no normal girdle. The word used in this instance is chagowr. A chagowr commonly describes an expensive girdle, a battle belt (2 Sam. 18:11). It was an honor to receive one and was even used as criteria for eligibility to fight in battle (2 Kings 3:21) implying that it must be earned.

There are people who try to make a love between friends as a homosexual act, but in truth, one can love a friend dearly without having desire for them sexually. Many pervert these friendships to "prove" that their own way of life can be considered "normal." Keep posting articles like this because it is important for the truth to be told.
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Amen to that Pennylynn

Good post bahmer.

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