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Jun 15, 2019 19:39:20   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Louie27 wrote:
The Democrats only won the House because they had about 35 seats vacated by the Republicans because they were so dishearten by the Democrats not wanting to get anything done in Congress.


Do you even bother thinking before you type? They were voted out because they weren't wanted. They wouldn't have become disappointment since they did not need democratic votes to pass bills, they were doing just fine on almost everything they truly wanted to pass WITHOUT democratic votes.

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Jun 15, 2019 22:38:08   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
Sometimes. "Your Mom died." That's news that hurts, if it's true. If it's not, then it's a play on another person's emotions and will no doubt elicit a less than friendly response when the (happy?) truth is discovered. I suppose that finding out that you've been lied to is almost always a hurtful experience, unless you're used to it, then maybe not so much.

I find the truth, even when negative in nature, is not so much a 'hurt' as a warning, or in some cases, a hint of the future. Take the latest attacks on those two tankers in the Straight of Hormuz. War is in the air, guaranteed; regardless of who did the damage or why. There may be misleading stories, or even outright lies along the way, but men are going to die. That's the truth. Does it hurt?
Sometimes. "Your Mom died." That's new... (show quote)


Need of repeat myself is your idea of news “outlet” as some type of department store where you purchase what you want and leave the rest. The truth doesn’t work that way.
News works on the 5 W’s. I lost my mother also but didn’t consider it news. There are some things better kept private. Sorry to learn about your mother. I loved mine.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Ws

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Jun 16, 2019 13:16:48   #
son of witless
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:


I di-int believe you, but having researched it myself it is remotely possible.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2001/02/can-congress-impeach-bill-clinton-again.html

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Jun 16, 2019 14:54:44   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
son of witless wrote:
I di-int believe you, but having researched it myself it is remotely possible.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2001/02/can-congress-impeach-bill-clinton-again.html


Thank you for doing your research, I really do appreciate your open mindedness on this one.





Edit: As for the latter portion of your comment, I think they can, but I doubt they will. He has served two terms as president and I don't think they consider it too great a risk to let it be, even though he could run to be a congressman or be chosen as a vice presidential candidate.

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Jun 16, 2019 15:02:44   #
Cuda2020
 
woodguru wrote:
Putin is a brilliant strategist and chess player, working many moves into the future.

To start with he could not possibly have thought Trump would win, it didn't matter, the damage he had sown would have wreaked havoc in terms of dividing this country. Butt hurt Trump supporters threatening civil war, the GOP had articles of impeachment ready to kick off the first month Hillary was in office, Obama would have been hounded for moronic things like "illegal wiretaps on Trump". The Russian interference would have been lost in the furor over Hillary stealing the election.
Trump won, more to the good, Putin has gotten favor after favor from Trump that has turned Russia around financially. The first few weeks of Trump taking office the GOP lifted the requirement that corporations disclose any financial transactions with foreign entities, think Exxon's $500 Billion cash deal to Russia and their new interest in developing Russian oil reserves.

Now think what Putin is doing, he is sending signals that relations between the country are deteriorating. Lets say dirt on Trump is "leaked", we have a divide that will easily see it as coming from the deep state. Lets say dirt is given to our intelligence services by other intelligence partners, same thing. No matter how credible Trump and his supporters will give nothing any credibility. Let's say dirt and leaks, and the internet social media machine ramps up into full gear as far as division is concerned. Dems are given the dirt on Trump, social media misinformation fuels the right by ramping up dirt on Trump that looks to benefit dems. The way the right belief system works is that they refuse to believe anything bad, and automatically reject anything bad that comes from the left.

There will be election fraud by the right, we know this since they refuse to do anything about election security or hard ballots, but the lip service rhetoric will be about the left stealing the elections. Russia will be taking division and chaos to new levels, we won't know what's up.
Putin is a brilliant strategist and chess player, ... (show quote)


It is amazing how it all continues to unfold before our eyes wide open while our hands tied behind our backs.

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Jun 16, 2019 15:12:35   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Trooper745 wrote:
I love it!!!! POTUS Trump scares the living crap out of you silly wacko liberal hypocrites, ... even if he's not in office. I hope he continues to haunt your dreams for the rest of your life.


Only in your deluded mined does Trump scare anyone. Is this alternate reality that you are living in really that much better than living in the real world? I thought you loved Trump and having the fool in the WH, why then hide in your alternate reality?

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Jun 16, 2019 16:19:49   #
son of witless
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Thank you for doing your research, I really do appreciate your open mindedness on this one.





Edit: As for the latter portion of your comment, I think they can, but I doubt they will. He has served two terms as president and I don't think they consider it too great a risk to let it be, even though he could run to be a congressman or be chosen as a vice presidential candidate.


While you have made your point, I say your point is ' pointless '. Forgive my bluntness, but here is my reasoning. I have observed politics since the Watergate Era and I think there are some truisms that rarely fail.

Both my side and your side have been extremely angry at Presidents of the opposite side. Unlike some on your side, I freely admit to hatred, but then I refuse to lie, at least to myself. But I digress, where was I ? Oh yea, hatred.

I remember Watergate and if there was a Republican more hated than My Boy Trump it was Richard Nixon. Then Ford pardoned him and he never spent a day in jail. If there was one guy who could've and did not it was him. While Democrats, many of them would've been overjoyed to see him behind bars, once he was no longer a political threat, they let it go.

On my side, we would've loved to see Bill and Hillary and definitely Barak Obama behind bars, again now that they are yesterday, there are bigger fish to fry.

Sorry about being so long to get to my central point, but to Impeach Trump after he is out of office will not happen. First of all he will be yesterday's battle and will not be worth the trouble, plus at his age he will never again seek public office.

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Jun 16, 2019 17:50:00   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
son of witless wrote:
While you have made your point, I say your point is ' pointless '. Forgive my bluntness, but here is my reasoning. I have observed politics since the Watergate Era and I think there are some truisms that rarely fail.

Both my side and your side have been extremely angry at Presidents of the opposite side. Unlike some on your side, I freely admit to hatred, but then I refuse to lie, at least to myself. But I digress, where was I ? Oh yea, hatred.

I remember Watergate and if there was a Republican more hated than My Boy Trump it was Richard Nixon. Then Ford pardoned him and he never spent a day in jail. If there was one guy who could've and did not it was him. While Democrats, many of them would've been overjoyed to see him behind bars, once he was no longer a political threat, they let it go.

On my side, we would've loved to see Bill and Hillary and definitely Barak Obama behind bars, again now that they are yesterday, there are bigger fish to fry.

Sorry about being so long to get to my central point, but to Impeach Trump after he is out of office will not happen. First of all he will be yesterday's battle and will not be worth the trouble, plus at his age he will never again seek public office.
While you have made your point, I say your point i... (show quote)


Sorry, I got about as far as "Both my side and your side have been extremely angry at Presidents of the opposite side. Unlike some on your side, I freely admit to hatred, but then I refuse to lie, at least to myself. But I digress, where was I ? Oh yea, hatred.". As I don't HAVE a side, I can hardly have an "opposing" side. Just because I can see Trump for what he is, that doesn't make me a liberal, a Democrat, a progressive or anything else you would LIKE to label me. I will admit, my recently acquired view of what passes as the current Republican party may suggest that I may be a liberal/Democrat/progressive, that truly isn't the case.

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Jun 16, 2019 18:40:50   #
son of witless
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Sorry, I got about as far as "Both my side and your side have been extremely angry at Presidents of the opposite side. Unlike some on your side, I freely admit to hatred, but then I refuse to lie, at least to myself. But I digress, where was I ? Oh yea, hatred.". As I don't HAVE a side, I can hardly have an "opposing" side. Just because I can see Trump for what he is, that doesn't make me a liberal, a Democrat, a progressive or anything else you would LIKE to label me. I will admit, my recently acquired view of what passes as the current Republican party may suggest that I may be a liberal/Democrat/progressive, that truly isn't the case.
Sorry, I got about as far as "Both my side an... (show quote)


Ohhhh no. Not another so called neutral who never the less attacks Trump. Forgive my error. I tend to group people by what views they express. I make many such errors.

If you can get past my mistake, I believe you will agree that Trump will never be impeached as an ex president. He is too old to seek another political office and historically both parties do not go after ex office holders.

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Jun 16, 2019 19:40:27   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
son of witless wrote:
Ohhhh no. Not another so called neutral who never the less attacks Trump. Forgive my error. I tend to group people by what views they express. I make many such errors.

If you can get past my mistake, I believe you will agree that Trump will never be impeached as an ex president. He is too old to seek another political office and historically both parties do not go after ex office holders.


“Historically” there has never been an ex-KGB Colonel oligarch with his hand so far up a U.S. President’s....that makes him look like a puppet so I doubt anything is off the table to extent of the law.

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Jun 16, 2019 20:02:11   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
markc wrote:
“Historically” there has never been an ex-KGB Colonel oligarch with his hand so far up a U.S. President’s....that makes him look like a puppet so I doubt anything is off the table to extent of the law.


But... Russia didn't want Trump to win, that was why they tried to damage Hillary's campaign instead of Trumps, to make hillary win...

But... There was no collusion, Mueller said so...

But... Trump has been so harsh on Putin like saying Russia DIDN'T interfere with our elections, Putin said he didn't interfere and Trump believes him, Trump looks up to Putin, Trump removed some of the sanctions Obama put on Russia. If Trump was Putin's puppet, would any of that really be so?

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Jun 16, 2019 20:10:26   #
markc Loc: Tennessee
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
But... Russia didn't want Trump to win, that was why they tried to damage Hillary's campaign instead of Trumps, to make hillary win...

But... There was no collusion, Mueller said so...

But... Trump has been so harsh on Putin like saying Russia DIDN'T interfere with our elections, Putin said he didn't interfere and Trump believes him, Trump looks up to Putin, Trump removed some of the sanctions Obama put on Russia. If Trump was Putin's puppet, would any of that really be so?


One of my favorite



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Jun 16, 2019 20:19:07   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
markc wrote:
One of my favorite


Evidence, facts, truth, all interchangeable in the bottom panel.

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Jun 17, 2019 11:58:13   #
Louie27 Loc: Peoria, AZ
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
But... Russia didn't want Trump to win, that was why they tried to damage Hillary's campaign instead of Trumps, to make hillary win...

But... There was no collusion, Mueller said so...

But... Trump has been so harsh on Putin like saying Russia DIDN'T interfere with our elections, Putin said he didn't interfere and Trump believes him, Trump looks up to Putin, Trump removed some of the sanctions Obama put on Russia. If Trump was Putin's puppet, would any of that really be so?


I suppose that President Trump giving offensive weapons to the Ukraine helped Putin. Oh! How about President Trump telling the EU to forget getting oil and gas from Putin with the pipeline. It would be better to get those products from the U. S.. Those are the two most obvious that even Progressives shouldn't have missed but TDS has been inhibiting them from having common sense.

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Jun 21, 2021 13:30:01   #
Cuda2020
 
markc wrote:
One of my favorite


quote: " why they tried to damage Hillary's campaign instead of Trumps, to make hillary win..." Did I read that right from "common sense", does she know that makes "no sense"?

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