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Jun 14, 2019 23:02:26   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
whitnebrat wrote:
<shaking head> What ever happened to "Thou shalt not kill"? Sounds like that's a pretty basic commandment with no exceptions to me. If it had been conditional, it would have read "Thou shalt not kill, except for ....."
If you are going back to the OT for "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, etc" then that's contradictory to a lot of other stuff, like "turn the other cheek".
I guess where you stand is where you sit.

Jesus said...Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets (Matthew 5:17)

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Jun 14, 2019 23:03:42   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Hmmmm... "God ordained capital punishment" ... who gets the message from God that so-and-so is to be put to death? And do any of us have the right to do that condemnation? If God is ordaining that someone should be put to death, don't you think that God might just do the job himself? It's not like he's not capable of carrying it out.


You haven't read the Bible

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Jun 14, 2019 23:14:22   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Crayons wrote:
Jesus said...Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets (matthew 5-17.)

What law, and which prophets? Islam is considered to be part of the Abramic(sic) religion, and incorporates much of the old Testament. Does Mohammed qualify as a prophet? Lots of people think so. And do any of those mandate killing other human beings? Yes, there's stoning for adultery, and a few other offenses, but those are primarily social regulations along with not eating pork and shellfish and a host of other things in Deuteronomy.
Any good cafeteria Christian can pick and choose Bible verses to prove their point, but I would go back to the Ten Commandments as a bedrock set of rules ... which, by the way, exist in almost every religion and philosophy as the same edicts. The remainder was written to serve a purpose for the time and the tribe. If you choose to believe, that's your option. But it is non-productive to attempt to mandate others to adhere to your way of thinking or theology.

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Jun 14, 2019 23:23:29   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
whitnebrat wrote:
What law, and which prophets? Islam is considered to be part of the Abramic(sic) religion, and incorporates much of the old Testament. Does Mohammed qualify as a prophet? Lots of people think so. And do any of those mandate killing other human beings? Yes, there's stoning for adultery, and a few other offenses, but those are primarily social regulations along with not eating pork and shellfish and a host of other things in Deuteronomy.
Any good cafeteria Christian can pick and choose Bible verses to prove their point, but I would go back to the Ten Commandments as a bedrock set of rules ... which, by the way, exist in almost every religion and philosophy as the same edicts. The remainder was written to serve a purpose for the time and the tribe. If you choose to believe, that's your option. But it is non-productive to attempt to mandate others to adhere to your way of thinking or theology.
What law, and which prophets? Islam is considered ... (show quote)




So you are usurping the Creator who gave the command to rid evil from society?

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Jun 14, 2019 23:27:08   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
whitnebrat wrote:
What law, and which prophets?

The law of Moses(considered a prophet)is called Mosaic Law that refers to the Torah not the islamo koran

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Jun 14, 2019 23:29:50   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
byronglimish wrote:
So you are usurping the Creator who gave the command to rid evil from society?


Not usurping anybody. Just looking at this from a reality-based, logical viewpoint. As I said, you're free to believe whatever you want. I just believe in questioning what doesn't make sense and is usually taken on "faith".
If you believe in divine justice, I'll probably be hit by lightning from a clear blue sky. I doubt that that will happen, but it's possible. If you're right, I'll have my judgement day at some point. But I'll take my chances on that. And it's not up to you or anyone else to determine that outcome.

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Jun 14, 2019 23:33:23   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Crayons wrote:
The law of Moses(considered a prophet)is called Mosaic Law that refers to the Torah not the islamo koran

As I said, Islam incorporates much of the Old Testament. Look it up. It is descended from Abraham's time.
On another note ... do Christians believe in the entire Bible or just the New Testament? If you are Christ-ian, it would seem to imply that all you need to know is in the second half of the Bible. I'm sure you all will correct me on this belief ... just askin'.

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Jun 14, 2019 23:41:08   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Crayons wrote:
The death penalty is a different animal...criminals/murderers/sociopaths still fear the death penalty


Pro-life is pro-life, anything other isn't pro-life is it?

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Jun 14, 2019 23:43:11   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
whitnebrat wrote:
<shaking head> What ever happened to "Thou shalt not kill"? Sounds like that's a pretty basic commandment with no exceptions to me. If it had been conditional, it would have read "Thou shalt not kill, except for ....."
If you are going back to the OT for "an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, etc" then that's contradictory to a lot of other stuff, like "turn the other cheek".
I guess where you stand is where you sit.


You don't expect good Christians to live by values set forth in the bible do you?

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Jun 14, 2019 23:49:09   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
whitnebrat wrote:
As I said, Islam incorporates much of the Old Testament. Look it up. It is descended from Abraham's time.
On another note ... do Christians believe in the entire Bible or just the New Testament? If you are Christ-ian, it would seem to imply that all you need to know is in the second half of the Bible. I'm sure you all will correct me on this belief ... just askin'.

Islam came to fruition at least '2 centuries' after the the resurrection of Jesus Christ... and Yes mohamed copied many laws from the Old Testament/Torah

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Jun 15, 2019 00:12:09   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Not usurping anybody. Just looking at this from a reality-based, logical viewpoint. As I said, you're free to believe whatever you want. I just believe in questioning what doesn't make sense and is usually taken on "faith".
If you believe in divine justice, I'll probably be hit by lightning from a clear blue sky. I doubt that that will happen, but it's possible. If you're right, I'll have my judgement day at some point. But I'll take my chances on that. And it's not up to you or anyone else to determine that outcome.
Not usurping anybody. Just looking at this from a ... (show quote)



Yes, everyone will be judged.

I don't know where you get that I was judging you.

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Jun 15, 2019 00:16:53   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
byronglimish wrote:
Yes, everyone will be judged.

I don't know where you get that I was judging you.


Sorry ... I was using the universal 'you' ... not you in particular. Didn't mean to personalize it. Ah apologize.

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Jun 15, 2019 00:18:08   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Pro-life is pro-life, anything other isn't pro-life is it?


You're trying to box the Creator in to your demands.

Ignorance is believing that you reason your way around very clear guidelines given by the creator, concerning the difference between murdering a innocent baby and capital punishment of a murderer.

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Jun 15, 2019 00:23:07   #
whitnebrat Loc: In the wilds of Oregon
 
Crayons wrote:
Islam came to fruition at least '2 centuries' after the the resurrection of Jesus Christ... and Yes mohamed copied many laws from the Old Testament/Torah

Make that eight centuries and you're in the ballpark. And Islam, while not a 'Christian' religion, is descended from early Judaism ... a cousin, so to speak of both Judaism and Christianity. The principal difference is that they consider Jesus to be a prophet, not the son of God ... same as the Jewish religion does. They do have a lot of social imperatives based on desert nomadic tribal culture that differ radically, particularly when you get into the fundamentalists ... but that's true of any religion. Christianity has its kooks and cults, as does Judaism.

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Jun 15, 2019 00:31:44   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
byronglimish wrote:
You're trying to box the Creator in to your demands.

Ignorance is believing that you reason your way around very clear guidelines given by the creator, concerning the difference between murdering a innocent baby and capital punishment of a murderer.


Interesting, I mentioned religion in my post where? Let me help you to point it out by showing my post INCLUDING your comment that I replied to.

Crayons wrote:
The death penalty is a different animal...criminals/murderers/sociopaths still fear the death penalty


To which I replied:

I wrote:
Pro-life is pro-life, anything other isn't pro-life is it?



And to prove that I am not nearly the dishonest poster as some others on OPP.
And to prove that I am not nearly the dishonest po...

Okay, there you have EVERYTHING you should need to point out where I mentioned religion.
Okay, there you have EVERYTHING you should need to...

Oops, almost forgot to add this shot too to ensure that nobody misses anything.
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