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Jun 5, 2019 16:16:43   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Crayons wrote:
Don't come to Texas...Rattlers, javelina, russian boars, wildcats with heads as big as watermelons and teeth as long as mesquite thorns seem to pop out of nowhere to eat you ~~~ Lets not forget about the 2 legged criminal scalawag invaders that like to take over private property...destroy the farmhouse...build jungle huts from the owners carefully manicured fruit trees....than one day the owner shows up...and than it's on like donkey kong


Well yes, wild animals are a whole different story. As for the "criminals" that is dependent on the situation at hand. In many cases, one can just call actual law enforcement and let them roust them out.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:21:09   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Hey, the guy was being an asshole, insulting women and making a nuisance of himself. The barkeep asked him to leave and we assisted. We followed him out not knowing he had a gun in his car. We carried no weapons. We saved the damned fool a hell of a lot of trouble by simply convincing him to leave. He was scared shitless anyway.

Rather dishonest of you to put the blame on us. Typical leftist spin.


Ah, so you were paid bouncers then? If not, it wasn't your responsibility to do so. Taking it upon yourself to do something that could turn out to be dangerous, you also take it upon yourself to suffer such consequences of your actions.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:23:08   #
Rose42
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Hey, the guy was being an asshole, insulting women and making a nuisance of himself. The barkeep asked him to leave and we assisted. We followed him out not knowing he had a gun in his car. We carried no weapons. We saved the damned fool a hell of a lot of trouble by simply convincing him to leave. He was scared shitless anyway.

Rather dishonest of you to put the blame on us. Typical leftist spin.


I wouldn't call it leftist spin. He's just arrogant and ignorant which is a dangerous combination.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:27:46   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Rose42 wrote:
I wouldn't call it leftist spin. He's just arrogant and ignorant which is a dangerous combination.


I'm sorry, conspiracy theory believer says what? Real rich for someone as ignorant as you to speculate on others' intellect.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:29:48   #
Crayons Loc: St Jo, Texas
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
As for the "criminals" that is dependent on the situation at hand. In many cases, one can just call actual law enforcement and let them roust them out.


It doesn't work like that in TX blue demonrat corntroled border counties...The police/demonrat LEO's never show up
unless they have to protect their dope...And there's only One Texas Ranger per County...You may be waiting
several days for him...so its up to you to secure your own property...God Bless Texas

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Jun 5, 2019 16:33:14   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
You are MUCH more likely to be hit in the head by falling materials/tools than getting into a situation where defending yourself becomes necessary. I have worn hard hats and safety boots as well as other safety equipment on jobs or while visiting job sites where such precautions are highly advisable.

I have also read/watched articles/news stories where people were killed by their own guns. You did say something that was right on when you said, "They all say you might think you know what you will do when your life or those you care abouts life is threatened but until it’s Actually happened to you what you think means squat". You also don't know that you will brandish and fire your weapon without them taking it from you and using it on you as well. ANY weapon you can brandish, can also be taken away from you and may be used against you as well.

When I say that I have never NEEDED a weapon to defend myself, that is only to say that I never wielded a weapon to protect myself. I too have been in my own fair share of fights, I just never brandished a weapon even when I have known full well I was carrying one. Of course we are ALWAYS carrying weapons on us. EVERYTHING is a weapon if you know how to use it. But for the sake of the "I just never brandished a weapon even when I have known full well I was carrying one.", I was actually referring to ACTUAL weapons, I just never felt the need to brandish/use them. There have also been times when I WISHED I was carrying a weapon on me when I wasn't, you want to know how those stories ended? I am still alive. Had I been carrying a gun and failed to brandish/use it without having it taken away and used on me, I likely wouldn't be.
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Like I said. I’ve never even brandished my gun. However; it’s very unlikely too be taken and used against me. If I draw it; I’m firing it. I wrestled division one college. Done amateur cage fighting. I can hold my own. None of that means anything to a crazed killer. Chances are, I’ll never need a gun. But carrying one doesn’t make me a coward, victim, or paranoid.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:34:18   #
Rose42
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
I'm sorry, conspiracy theory believer says what? Real rich for someone as ignorant as you to speculate on others' intellect.


Shall I repeat? You are arrogant and ignorant on this topic. Its on display in huge neon lights on this thread. Not to mention you'd sit idly by rather than lift a finger to help someone so you don't have to go through any trouble. Used to be people helped each other out. Now more people won't lift a finger and instead wait for the cops rather than help de-escalate a situation if they can.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:50:02   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Rose42 wrote:
Shall I repeat? You are arrogant and ignorant on this topic. Its on display in huge neon lights on this thread. Not to mention you'd sit idly by rather than lift a finger to help someone so you don't have to go through any trouble. Used to be people helped each other out. Now more people won't lift a finger and instead wait for the cops rather than help de-escalate a situation if they can.


Yes, it is my "ignorance" is quite obvious by the fact that I have NEVER needed a weapon to defend myself while visiting some of the most dangerous areas in our country. I have also not said that I sit idly by when situations have arisen either, just haven't ever needed a weapon to defend myself. IF I choose to act, I take it upon myself whatever consequences that may arise, thus far it hasn't amounted to anything really. The chances that things will escalate increases exponentially when weapons come out, only a moron would say otherwise.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:54:58   #
vernon
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Showing your own ignorance again I see. I can not say that I have ever actually spoken to anyone that has ever been in ANY situation that might call for NEEDING a gun or any weapon for that matter and having one can tend to lead to an escalation of the situation. I have walked the "mean streets" of Chicago's South side and South Central L.A. fully unarmed and never had an issue. When I lived out in California, I lived in Oxnard, a place where you hear gunshots nightly and fairly frequently during the day as well. I never felt the need to carry any weapons there either. Perhaps it was your "victim mentality" that presented the need for you to be armed, if as you say, "I have dip stick", ever really happened at all. Criminals tend to be able to "sense" easy prey, prey that is scared to be where they are. Those that give the presence that they BELONG there, they typically get left alone.

Word to the wise... IF you feel the need to be armed at all times, perhaps you should avoid "high risk" areas. Those that aren't so paranoid, they aren't typically taken advantage of so readily, even in those very same "high risk" areas.
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I guess you are such a bad ass the punks don't mess with you.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:56:20   #
youngwilliam Loc: Deep in the heart
 
Sew_What wrote:
...yea, it's worked so far...LOL


How many self defense? How many suicide? How many justified officer shootings? How many accidental.
Problem with you lefties, always just part of the story, just enoiught to push your false narratives.

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Jun 5, 2019 16:58:10   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
vernon wrote:
I guess you are such a bad ass the punks don't mess with you.


You don't have to be, you just have to not look out of place where you are. It has less to do with your attire and more to do with how one carries oneself. If you look like you don't belong, then they naturally assume that you will make good prey.

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Jun 5, 2019 17:07:02   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Ah, so you were paid bouncers then? If not, it wasn't your responsibility to do so. Taking it upon yourself to do something that could turn out to be dangerous, you also take it upon yourself to suffer such consequences of your actions.
No, we were not paid bouncers. Just being men doing our civic duty, you know like taking responsibility for dealing with an obnoxious asshole. The women in the bar were fed up with the loud mouth, and so was the barkeep, so we kicked his ass out. NBD.

Yes, common sense matters, when are you going to score some?

There are no guarantees in this life, and it is a very uncertain and dangerous world we live in. Makes sense to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

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Jun 5, 2019 17:10:33   #
Rose42
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Yes, it is my "ignorance" is quite obvious by the fact that I have NEVER needed a weapon to defend myself while visiting some of the most dangerous areas in our country. I have also not said that I sit idly by when situations have arisen either, just haven't ever needed a weapon to defend myself. IF I choose to act, I take it upon myself whatever consequences that may arise, thus far it hasn't amounted to anything really. The chances that things will escalate increases exponentially when weapons come out, only a moron would say otherwise.
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Its just as much dumb luck you haven't needed a weapon. Most people will never need one but carrying one is a good idea if you know how to use it. Thinking you don't need one because you never have is an amateur mistake. I don't think everyone should have one because not everyone is prepared to use one if needed. There can be no maybes. And if you don't train then you're hurting yourself. There are many ways to train without weapons and without being combative. Its hard to find instructors that really know what they're doing. Carrying a knife can be much more dangerous than carrying a gun.

If you had really chosen to ever help someone you wouldn't ignorantly pontificate to another about doing so when you weren't there.

Things can escalate very quickly when someone doesn't know how to handle a situation - weapon or not. There are many examples which I won't go into here.

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Jun 5, 2019 17:20:31   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
No, we were not paid bouncers. Just being men doing our civic duty, you know like taking responsibility for dealing with an obnoxious asshole. The women in the bar were fed up with the loud mouth, and so was the barkeep, so we kicked his ass out. NBD.

Yes, common sense matters, when are you going to score some?

There are no guarantees in this life, and it is a very uncertain and dangerous world we live in. Makes sense to hope for the best and prepare for the worst.


The law wasn't on your side, if it had come down to a fight and police came, you would have been headed to jail WITH the other guy or INSTEAD of him, dependent on how the cops viewed the situation when they arrived.

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Jun 5, 2019 17:28:43   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Rose42 wrote:
Its just as much dumb luck you haven't needed a weapon. Most people will never need one but carrying one is a good idea if you know how to use it. Thinking you don't need one because you never have is an amateur mistake. I don't think everyone should have one because not everyone is prepared to use one if needed. There can be no maybes. And if you don't train then you're hurting yourself. There are many ways to train without weapons and without being combative. Its hard to find instructors that really know what they're doing. Carrying a knife can be much more dangerous than carrying a gun.

If you had really chosen to ever help someone you wouldn't ignorantly pontificate to another about doing so when you weren't there.

Things can escalate very quickly when someone doesn't know how to handle a situation - weapon or not. There are many examples which I won't go into here.
Its just as much dumb luck you haven't needed a we... (show quote)


Not dumb luck, knowing how to handle situations comes in more handy than weapons the majority of the time, there may be a few, VERY rare few times that wouldn't be the case perhaps, just so rare that it wouldn't even be worth mentioning. As for your claim that I have never helped others, that just shows your own ignorance yet again, I HAVE helped others, sometimes I knew them, sometimes I didn't. It is ALWAYS better to judge the situation BEFORE acting and determine the best way to handle the situation. There are times that things escalate too quickly and action must be taken prematurely, those tend to be much harder to handle but as yet, I have NEVER needed a weapon to handle ANY of the situations.

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