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May 23, 2019 16:34:13   #
JediKnight
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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Wrong! We must not lie so that we could solve the problems effectively.


We can begin with ridding ourselves of Trump and these corrupt republicans currently in office. period.

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May 23, 2019 16:35:59   #
Radiance3
 
JediKnight wrote:
And just who would be the "right kind of people" Radiance?


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The right kind of people to help? The weak, disabled, elderly, orphans, and many others.
There are also homeless who needs help especially if they are mothers with children.
I help them.

But the strong bodied people, the drug addicts, they must be put to work.

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May 23, 2019 16:38:23   #
archie bunker Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
Telling white house counsel to lie about something he told him to do, to tell him to say he hadn't done that when he had, further telling said counsel to change the official record to reflect that alteration...

There doesn't have to be a crime, the intent of obstructing an investigation is a crime. It is said as a truism, lying about the obstruction is worse than the crime. McGahn easily proves intent of obstruction, and trying to get him to lie about it, all contributing to a prosecutable crime of obstruction. Trying to get McGahn to lie is obstruction.

Mueller said he couldn't prosecute for obstruction, not that there weren't the crimes, but that congress could be the judge.

900 prosecutors have signed a letter stating that they could successfully prosecute Trump based on the evidence listed in Mueller's report. There are at least five solid instances that make easy prosecutions of anyone who isn't the president, which means he has to be impeached so he can then be prosecuted.

It was worded and tailored to be used by congress as a road map for impeachment, and you doubt that Barr redacted far more damaging information than was released? You would be outraged if a report on Obama were redacted to take out the really damaging things.
Telling white house counsel to lie about something... (show quote)


Your last paragraph says it all. There was never any crime committed, and you think creating a manual on how to create one for a sitting president who is innocent of everything that brought on this "investigation" is a ok.

You make me sick.

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May 23, 2019 17:01:01   #
JediKnight
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The right kind of people to help? The weak, disabled, elderly, orphans, and many others.
There are also homeless who needs help especially if they are mothers with children.
I help them.

But the strong bodied people, the drug addicts, they must be put to work.


Oh okay....I gotcha now...thanks for the clarity! All the angels in heaven smile when we show compassion in helping others....please keep up the good fight!

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May 23, 2019 18:21:57   #
son of witless
 
woodguru wrote:
Actually you are wrong on several counts, any activity that would suggest the possibility of money laundering would make an investigation of that fair game. Suspicion leads to scrutiny, scrutiny leads to evidence, which triggers the microscope look. Taxes are the weak link of money launderers, the tax picture is brutally damning...you just can't hide the fact that there is money going through accounts and paying for things that you can't explain because you are not properly claiming it for tax purposes.

Nobody can really explain large cash expenditures, the tale of the taxes says it all.
Actually you are wrong on several counts, any acti... (show quote)


Plan A was Trump Russia collusion. Plan B was Trump obstruction of the investigation of a non crime, Trump Russia Collusion. Plan C is money laundering. What is Plan D for overturning the 2016 election ?

Come on you can tell me. I won't blab.

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May 23, 2019 21:00:40   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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The law at present as it stands, indicates that what I have presented is the valid one. However, the current democrat Congress dictates their desired results of an outcome to their favor. Just as what they are trying to do with the results of the Mueller case.

Congress' desperation, and the abuse of power at present is overwhelming, and blatantly displayed without regards to the American people that they serve.

They behave like Dictators, and the Judicial System as well. What they have is an oversight, but not to take over the whole Judicial Process.

There is no such case where you first identify the victim, because you hate him, arrest, harass, and assault until he gives up his constitutional rights to allowing Congress ransack his personal belongings at home. Then Congress finds defects in it to convict.

This very basic foundation protecting the constitutional rights of a citizen must prevail. The Executive Branch has its own vested power to exercise Executive Privileges. These are his rights.

Congress' desires to make its own conclusion pinning up guilt on the accused president Trump, before identifying the problem must not prevail in the Judicial System. Their objective is to remove him from power.

I hope the matter be resolved at the highest Court, which is the rightful avenue to process and make decisions. I will rely on that.

Thanks, Slatt for your patience.
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It shouldn't even have to go to the highest court. With all the lawyers we have in Congress you would think at least a couple of them, of the Democratic persuasion, would have attended a law school that didn't teach Obama's version of Constitutional law.

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May 23, 2019 21:06:57   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JediKnight wrote:
We can begin with ridding ourselves of Trump and these corrupt republicans currently in office. period.


Just as soon as the corrupt Democrats are also gone.

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May 23, 2019 21:10:09   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JediKnight wrote:
And just who would be the "right kind of people" Radiance?


Jedi... what do you do to help those in need? Oh, right! You think the government is supposed to take care of everyone and you don't have to because that's what your taxes are for. Thank God Conservatives and real liberals (Classical Liberalism) do not think this way. Conservatives donate more to charity than Leftists.

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May 23, 2019 21:13:22   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JediKnight wrote:
Also, Trump has had "illegals" working at his golf clubs for years -not to mention that Melania and her parents are all immigrants. Melania's parents came here through 'chain migration' which of course Trump wants to eliminate. Why do you so strongly support a man that is the epitome of hypocrisy and racism? sad.


Why are you bothered by this? This is what you Democrats have wanted all along. A world without Borders.

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May 23, 2019 21:20:12   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JediKnight wrote:
Uh...sorry...that is pure fact.....google it if you dare! Not sure why you guys always feel the need to bring up Obama -as if anything Obama may have done clears the path for Trump to do even worse. You probably don't even know that there are more white people on food stamps than any other race of people. I'm willing to bet that you don't agree with "helping others" either....it shows in your posts....let's pray that you and your family NEVER need help okay?


We pray that every family never needs help, but we are also realistic about the way the real world works; not the Pie-in-the-sky version of utopia that you Leftists keep trying to create, but will never work. That's why we do good deeds, give to charities, and we don't crow about it like the hypocrites on the Left.

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May 23, 2019 21:25:19   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
Radiance3 wrote:
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It was glaringly abundant to find them. Just turn around and there they are.
JedKnight, I help the right people who need help. I don't want to enumerate here what I do helping people. But I help the right kind of people.


God helps those who help themselves! Democrats just help themselves to what other's have because they think others should not have that.

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May 23, 2019 22:25:29   #
Radiance3
 
dtucker300 wrote:
It shouldn't even have to go to the highest court. With all the lawyers we have in Congress you would think at least a couple of them, of the Democratic persuasion, would have attended a law school that didn't teach Obama's version of Constitutional law.


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Indeed, Congress is populated by lawyers, but not the right kind of minds. Their political and personal ambition must be satisfied regardless of right and wrong. Actually, they are experts in doing wrongs for greed of power, but they also are experts on getting away with it.

Similarly, the Deep State is populated with lawyers, thus they were brilliant in fabricating events/lies, and planted them against their political opponent to blame a wrong on president Trump he never committed.

Purpose was to take the power vested by the people for their own.

It is not a clean endeavor.

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May 23, 2019 23:51:46   #
JoyV
 
woodguru wrote:
Telling white house counsel to lie about something he told him to do, to tell him to say he hadn't done that when he had, further telling said counsel to change the official record to reflect that alteration...

There doesn't have to be a crime, the intent of obstructing an investigation is a crime. It is said as a truism, lying about the obstruction is worse than the crime. McGahn easily proves intent of obstruction, and trying to get him to lie about it, all contributing to a prosecutable crime of obstruction. Trying to get McGahn to lie is obstruction.

Mueller said he couldn't prosecute for obstruction, not that there weren't the crimes, but that congress could be the judge.

900 prosecutors have signed a letter stating that they could successfully prosecute Trump based on the evidence listed in Mueller's report. There are at least five solid instances that make easy prosecutions of anyone who isn't the president, which means he has to be impeached so he can then be prosecuted.

It was worded and tailored to be used by congress as a road map for impeachment, and you doubt that Barr redacted far more damaging information than was released? You would be outraged if a report on Obama were redacted to take out the really damaging things.
Telling white house counsel to lie about something... (show quote)


So show us the 5. I've read both volumn I and volumn II and the only evidence was dependent on the Steele report being accurate and factual. Remove that and the rest collapses.

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May 24, 2019 13:00:10   #
JediKnight
 
son of witless wrote:
Plan A was Trump Russia collusion. Plan B was Trump obstruction of the investigation of a non crime, Trump Russia Collusion. Plan C is money laundering. What is Plan D for overturning the 2016 election ?

Come on you can tell me. I won't blab.


It will not be revealed in our lifetime, but the truth will indeed come out. Expect to learn how these corrupt republicans through mediums such as the NRA and others, received millions of dirty dollars from Russians, Saudi Arabians, and others to influence our democratic elections and profit from dirty under-the-table deals. Cohen admitted to nearly 1,000 contacts with the Russians during the campaign -and we know Trump lies faster than he breathes. It is a wakeup call to all who have become complacent with the negatives of our current world society and not only stand idly by, but run to drink from the same trough of the corrupt.

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May 24, 2019 13:12:09   #
dtucker300 Loc: Vista, CA
 
JediKnight wrote:
It will not be revealed in our lifetime, but the truth will indeed come out. Expect to learn how these corrupt republicans through mediums such as the NRA and others, received millions of dirty dollars from Russians, Saudi Arabians, and others to influence our democratic elections and profit from dirty under-the-table deals. Cohen admitted to nearly 1,000 contacts with the Russians during the campaign -and we know Trump lies faster than he breathes. It is a wakeup call to all who have become complacent with the negatives of our current world society and not only stand idly by, but run to drink from the same trough of the corrupt.
It will not be revealed in our lifetime, but the t... (show quote)


How come you are so fixated on Trump but not the Democrat's dirty dealings? You know the Democrats are even more corrupt than Republicans. You can't see the forest for the trees!

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