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May 22, 2019 00:13:51   #
Radiance3
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Yeah, amazon pays zero on 11 billion. Trump claimed a billion in losses over 10 years.


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You don't understand. I have read most of the president's business activities during the prior years. I saw that he paid tens or hundreds of millions of dollars on his yearly tax returns.

Since he had many business activities. President Trump has filed bankruptcy on that Casino in Atlantic City, NJ. There was a reason for that. Those things happen to all who engage in large corporate business.

The casino bankruptcies came during the recession of the early 1990s and the Gulf War, both of which contributed to hard times in Atlantic City, New Jersey's gambling facilities. He also entered a Manhattan hotel and two casino holding companies into bankruptcy.

These are normal events to happen,when so many business holdings operates. And president Trump has many business activities. But overall, he made large profits for the rests. His tax returns annually paid tens of millions of dollars.

I have read his reports and I understand how business works. His IRS returns are all prepared by CPA's and Tax Lawyers to ensure compliance with the IRS regulations.

These are all required for compliance to all businesses.
Every year, Trump has paid tens of millions of taxes to the IRS.
Employees taxes that is the 50% of the SS and Medicate.
Unemployment taxes for employees.
Corporate business tax to the State.
Property Tax to the City and State.
I read his reports, and every year, I calculated, he paid about $45 million average.

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May 22, 2019 01:39:01   #
Seth
 
tj14 wrote:
Attributed to Alyssa Ahlgren

I’m sitting in a small coffee shop near Nokomis trying to think of what to write about. I scroll through my newsfeed on my phone looking at the latest headlines of Democratic candidates calling for policies to “fix” the so-called injustices of capitalism. I put my phone down and continue to look around. I see people talking freely, working on their MacBook’s, ordering food they get in an instant, seeing cars go by outside, and it dawned on me. We live in the most privileged time in the most prosperous nation and we’ve become completely blind to it. Vehicles, food, technology, freedom to associate with whom we choose. These things are so ingrained in our American way of life we don’t give them a second thought. We are so well off here in the United States that our poverty line begins 31 times above the global average. Thirty. One. Times. Virtually no one in the United States is considered poor by global standards. Yet, in a time where we can order a product off Amazon with one click and have it at our doorstep the next day, we are unappreciative, unsatisfied, and ungrateful.

Our unappreciation is evident as the popularity of socialist policies among my generation continues to grow. Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said to Newsweek talking about the millennial generation, “An entire generation, which is now becoming one of the largest electorates in America, came of age and never saw American prosperity.”

Never saw American prosperity. Let that sink in. When I first read that statement, I thought to myself, that was quite literally the most entitled and factually illiterate thing I’ve ever heard in my 26 years on this earth. Now, I’m not attributing Miss Ocasio-Cortez’s words to outright dishonesty. I do think she whole-heartedly believes the words she said to be true. Many young people agree with her, which is entirely misguided. My generation is being indoctrinated by a mainstream narrative to actually believe we have never seen prosperity. I know this first hand, I went to college, let’s just say I didn’t have the popular opinion, but I digress.

Let me lay down some universal truths really quick. The United States of America has lifted more people out of abject poverty, spread more freedom and democracy, and has created more innovation in technology and medicine than any other nation in human history. Not only that but our citizenry continually breaks world records with charitable donations, the rags to riches story is not only possible in America but not uncommon, we have the strongest purchasing power on earth, and we encompass 25% of the world’s GDP. The list goes on. However, these universal truths don’t matter. We are told that income inequality is an existential crisis (even though this is not an indicator of prosperity, some of the poorest countries in the world have low-income inequality), we are told that we are oppressed by capitalism (even though it’s brought about more freedom and wealth to the most people than any other system in world history), we are told that the only way we will acquire the benefits of true prosperity is through socialism and centralization of federal power (even though history has proven time and again this only brings tyranny and suffering).

Why then, with all of the overwhelming evidence around us, evidence that I can even see sitting at a coffee shop, do we not view this as prosperity? We have people who are dying to get into our country. People around the world destitute and truly impoverished. Yet, we have a young generation convinced they’ve never seen prosperity, and as a result, elect politicians dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism. Why? The answer is this, my generation has ONLY seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn’t live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, or see the rise and fall of socialism and communism. We don’t know what it’s like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don’t have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it’s spreading like a plague.

With the current political climate giving rise to the misguided idea of a socialist utopia, will we see the light? Or will we have to lose it all to realize that what we have now is true prosperity? Destroying the free market will undo what millions of people have died to achieve.

My generation is becoming the largest voting bloc in the country. We have an opportunity to continue to propel us forward with the gifts capitalism and democracy has given us. The other option is that we can fall into the trap of entitlement and relapse into restrictive socialist destitution. The choice doesn’t seem too hard, does it?
Attributed to Alyssa Ahlgren br br I’m sitting in... (show quote)


Excellent piece, spot-on!!!!

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May 22, 2019 01:45:02   #
Seth
 
Kevyn wrote:
The current generation is getting screwed and they know it. The undeniable fact is that they do not have the opportunities their parents and grandparents did. for the baby boomers a career with healthcare and an old age pension was a birthright, unions made it so people could effectively bargain with huge corporations. A person could work their way through school without amassing crippling debt due to government subsidies to higher education. And most importantly a single 40 hour a week job would support a family. This working class prosperity did not come from the gilded age or from the trickle down generosity of the robber barons it came from anti trust laws, the new deal, the GI bill the great struggles of the labor movement breaking up monopolies and a graduated tax system. Returning to that is not some sort of socialist panacea it is the common sense solution that a majority of Americans desire.
The current generation is getting screwed and they... (show quote)


Kevyn, it must be a really weird experience dwelling in your alternate universe.

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May 22, 2019 01:51:33   #
Seth
 
lindajoy wrote:
Finally a post of positive reinforcement!! Very well said~~

Unfortunately the ones you speak of have never had to work and earn, they expect and working to produce and grow has not been instilled..

This up coming generation needs some tough love if they ever expect to sustain themself rather than let the government throw pittance their way to keep them suppressed and controlled...

Likewise they have no true regard or patriotism in the country you describe here because they have not lived the things that most of us remember or learned about in school....

This is the greatest Nation and its taken blood, sweat and tears to foster her!! Something else they know nothing ..

God Bless us all may our fly free and our Constitution held steadfast to all that makes this Country what it truly is!!

Thank You for posting this ....
Finally a post of positive reinforcement!! Very we... (show quote)


I think more than a little of what you describe is a result of the education system that seems nowadays to be largely a socialism indoctrination venue.

This needs to change before another couple of generations come up as clueless as Kevyn or Woodguru.

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May 22, 2019 01:56:07   #
Seth
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
Capitalism is when you raise your own cows and sell the milk and cheese for a profit.

Socialism is when the government takes your milk and sends you back the cheese it decides you will have.

Communism is when the government takes your cows and sends you back the manure with hopes that your potatoes will grow.


Well put!

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May 22, 2019 11:41:24   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
tj14 wrote:
Attributed to Alyssa Ahlgren

I’m sitting in a small coffee shop near Nokomis trying to think of what to write about. I scroll through my newsfeed on my phone looking at the latest headlines of Democratic candidates calling for policies to “fix” the so-called injustices of capitalism. I put my phone down and continue to look around. I see people talking freely, working on their MacBook’s, ordering food they get in an instant, seeing cars go by outside, and it dawned on me. We live in the most privileged time in the most prosperous nation and we’ve become completely blind to it. Vehicles, food, technology, freedom to associate with whom we choose. These things are so ingrained in our American way of life we don’t give them a second thought. We are so well off here in the United States that our poverty line begins 31 times above the global average. Thirty. One. Times. Virtually no one in the United States is considered poor by global standards. Yet, in a time where we can order a product off Amazon with one click and have it at our doorstep the next day, we are unappreciative, unsatisfied, and ungrateful.

Our unappreciation is evident as the popularity of socialist policies among my generation continues to grow. Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said to Newsweek talking about the millennial generation, “An entire generation, which is now becoming one of the largest electorates in America, came of age and never saw American prosperity.”

Never saw American prosperity. Let that sink in. When I first read that statement, I thought to myself, that was quite literally the most entitled and factually illiterate thing I’ve ever heard in my 26 years on this earth. Now, I’m not attributing Miss Ocasio-Cortez’s words to outright dishonesty. I do think she whole-heartedly believes the words she said to be true. Many young people agree with her, which is entirely misguided. My generation is being indoctrinated by a mainstream narrative to actually believe we have never seen prosperity. I know this first hand, I went to college, let’s just say I didn’t have the popular opinion, but I digress.

Let me lay down some universal truths really quick. The United States of America has lifted more people out of abject poverty, spread more freedom and democracy, and has created more innovation in technology and medicine than any other nation in human history. Not only that but our citizenry continually breaks world records with charitable donations, the rags to riches story is not only possible in America but not uncommon, we have the strongest purchasing power on earth, and we encompass 25% of the world’s GDP. The list goes on. However, these universal truths don’t matter. We are told that income inequality is an existential crisis (even though this is not an indicator of prosperity, some of the poorest countries in the world have low-income inequality), we are told that we are oppressed by capitalism (even though it’s brought about more freedom and wealth to the most people than any other system in world history), we are told that the only way we will acquire the benefits of true prosperity is through socialism and centralization of federal power (even though history has proven time and again this only brings tyranny and suffering).

Why then, with all of the overwhelming evidence around us, evidence that I can even see sitting at a coffee shop, do we not view this as prosperity? We have people who are dying to get into our country. People around the world destitute and truly impoverished. Yet, we have a young generation convinced they’ve never seen prosperity, and as a result, elect politicians dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism. Why? The answer is this, my generation has ONLY seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn’t live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, or see the rise and fall of socialism and communism. We don’t know what it’s like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don’t have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it’s spreading like a plague.

With the current political climate giving rise to the misguided idea of a socialist utopia, will we see the light? Or will we have to lose it all to realize that what we have now is true prosperity? Destroying the free market will undo what millions of people have died to achieve.

My generation is becoming the largest voting bloc in the country. We have an opportunity to continue to propel us forward with the gifts capitalism and democracy has given us. The other option is that we can fall into the trap of entitlement and relapse into restrictive socialist destitution. The choice doesn’t seem too hard, does it?
Attributed to Alyssa Ahlgren br br I’m sitting in... (show quote)


Spot on.
I am glad I took the time to read this.
Thanks, tj14.

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May 22, 2019 11:47:45   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Ricktloml wrote:
Hugo Chavez promised the same things to Venezuelans. Socialism is socialism


"Hugo Chavez promised the same things to Venezuelans. Socialism is socialism." - Ricktloml

"Yet, we have a young generation convinced they’ve never seen prosperity, and as a result, elect politicians dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism. Why? The answer is this, my generation has ONLY seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn’t live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, or see the rise and fall of socialism and communism. We don’t know what it’s like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don’t have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it’s spreading like a plague." - tj14

Great post!

BTW;
In my opinion, the young generation is a product of their liberal educators.

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May 22, 2019 12:42:15   #
moldyoldy
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Hugo Chavez promised the same things to Venezuelans. Socialism is socialism." - Ricktloml

"Yet, we have a young generation convinced they’ve never seen prosperity, and as a result, elect politicians dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism. Why? The answer is this, my generation has ONLY seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn’t live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, or see the rise and fall of socialism and communism. We don’t know what it’s like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don’t have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it’s spreading like a plague." - tj14

Great post!

BTW;
In my opinion, the young generation is a product of their liberal educators.
"Hugo Chavez promised the same things to Vene... (show quote)


Young people realize that the country is ruled by greed. It is not about capitalism or socialism, it is about being suckers for the rich.

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May 22, 2019 12:42:55   #
debeda
 
eagleye13 wrote:
"Hugo Chavez promised the same things to Venezuelans. Socialism is socialism." - Ricktloml

"Yet, we have a young generation convinced they’ve never seen prosperity, and as a result, elect politicians dead set on taking steps towards abolishing capitalism. Why? The answer is this, my generation has ONLY seen prosperity. We have no contrast. We didn’t live in the great depression, or live through two world wars, or see the rise and fall of socialism and communism. We don’t know what it’s like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones. We don’t have a lack of prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it’s spreading like a plague." - tj14

Great post!

BTW;
In my opinion, the young generation is a product of their liberal educators.
"Hugo Chavez promised the same things to Vene... (show quote)


AGREED

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May 22, 2019 12:52:17   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Young people realize that the country is ruled by greed. It is not about capitalism or socialism, it is about being suckers for the rich.


Moldy!!!!
Check out Venezuela and Cuba.
Is Nicolás Maduro your hero?

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May 22, 2019 14:08:22   #
Carol Kelly
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
But the problem is that the people who want more for their taxes don't pay any taxes.
That's socialism, living off other people's money.


That’s where we’re headed. Already have one foot on the banana peel. Just take a look at Schumer and Pelosi today.

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May 22, 2019 14:08:46   #
moldyoldy
 
eagleye13 wrote:
Moldy!!!!
Check out Venezuela and Cuba.
Is Nicolás Maduro your hero?


Socialist countries in Europe happen to be the happiest and healthiest places.

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May 22, 2019 14:14:59   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Socialist countries in Europe happen to be the happiest and healthiest places.
Pick one and I'll pass the hat and see if we can't get you a ticket. I'm sure we can find someone willing to take your place in this terrible country of ours.

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May 22, 2019 14:20:49   #
moldyoldy
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
Pick one and I'll pass the hat and see if we can't get you a ticket. I'm sure we can find someone willing to take your place in this terrible country of ours.


Americans are so arrogant and short sighted that they can not admit that there are flaws in the US that we could fix.

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May 22, 2019 15:02:13   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Americans are so arrogant and short sighted that they can not admit that there are flaws in the US that we could fix.
If you're actually reading peoples comments here instead of just popping up like a prairie dog every once in awhile to post one of your anti-US gripes, you'd see that we all know that America has it's shortcomings and we all have opinions about how to fix things. But most of us believe that being born American is one of the greatest gifts anyone can have. We love our country! If things were as bad as you seem to think, why the hell is the US the place most people who want to leave their home countries want to go by a huge margin?
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/11/these-are-the-countries-migrants-want-to-move-to/
Buddy, I'm starting to think that if you were involved in a 3-way with Sophia Vergara and Margot Robbie, you'd still find something to complain about?! (Forgive me, just trying to make a point!)



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