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What Part Of "Congress Can Investigate Anything It Wants To" Doesn't Trump And Barr Get?
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May 21, 2019 15:41:17   #
woodguru
 
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that works, endless, over and over, spending more money than Mueller did even though they found nothing.

Holder tried to withhold some information on "fast and furious" after releasing thousands of pages, courts upheld the right of congress to get what they wanted.

It is the job of congress to oversee and challenge executive overreach, how can they do it if the president has the authority to prevent them from seeing documents they want or talking to people involved whether they work for the administration or not?

Holder's feet were held to the fire by congress, what makes Barr so special that he can't be held accountable?

The white house and DOJ are claiming executive immunity that flat does not exist, or there would be no possible way to hold a president accountable.

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May 21, 2019 15:44:49   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that works, endless, over and over, spending more money than Mueller did even though they found nothing.

Holder tried to withhold some information on "fast and furious" after releasing thousands of pages, courts upheld the right of congress to get what they wanted.

It is the job of congress to oversee and challenge executive overreach, how can they do it if the president has the authority to prevent them from seeing documents they want or talking to people involved whether they work for the administration or not?

Holder's feet were held to the fire by congress, what makes Barr so special that he can't be held accountable?

The white house and DOJ are claiming executive immunity that flat does not exist, or there would be no possible way to hold a president accountable.
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that... (show quote)


What part of Congress has complete oversight of the Executive Branch and can make up any investigation it wants is not in the Constitution don't t you get.?

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May 21, 2019 15:50:24   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
How About Doing Some Work ??
All We've Seen Is The Green New Deal
Which Flamed Out To Hilarity

You Want Dem's To Do That In 2020 ??
When Dem's Lose Their Majority
What Will They Do, What Will They Do....

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May 21, 2019 15:56:47   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
woodguru wrote:
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that works, endless, over and over, spending more money than Mueller did even though they found nothing.

Holder tried to withhold some information on "fast and furious" after releasing thousands of pages, courts upheld the right of congress to get what they wanted.

It is the job of congress to oversee and challenge executive overreach, how can they do it if the president has the authority to prevent them from seeing documents they want or talking to people involved whether they work for the administration or not?

Holder's feet were held to the fire by congress, what makes Barr so special that he can't be held accountable?

The white house and DOJ are claiming executive immunity that flat does not exist, or there would be no possible way to hold a president accountable.
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that... (show quote)


What part of Executive Privilege don't you get troll?

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May 21, 2019 16:12:27   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
What part of Congress has complete oversight of the Executive Branch and can make up any investigation it wants is not in the Constitution don't t you get.?


They are not making anything up, the Mueller report outlined the role McGahn played when he documented Trump's attempts to get him to fire Mueller, then his being told to lie and to change the formal records.

Putting him on the stand is about letting the american public and the GOP hear in his own words what happened.

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May 21, 2019 16:22:47   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
They are not making anything up, the Mueller report outlined the role McGahn played when he documented Trump's attempts to get him to fire Mueller, then his being told to lie and to change the formal records.

Putting him on the stand is about letting the american public and the GOP hear in his own words what happened.


Mueller was not fired and finished his investigation. If Trump really wanted him fired it would have happened. Democrats are chasing a gnat in hopes of finding a camel that is not there. They do not care about rule of law, truth, or the people's right to know. They care about getting Trump and will go down any rabbit trail in hopes of finding a way to do it. Can you draw one honest breath and just admit it?

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May 21, 2019 16:30:19   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
woodguru wrote:
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that works, endless, over and over, spending more money than Mueller did even though they found nothing.

Holder tried to withhold some information on "fast and furious" after releasing thousands of pages, courts upheld the right of congress to get what they wanted.

It is the job of congress to oversee and challenge executive overreach, how can they do it if the president has the authority to prevent them from seeing documents they want or talking to people involved whether they work for the administration or not?

Holder's feet were held to the fire by congress, what makes Barr so special that he can't be held accountable?

The white house and DOJ are claiming executive immunity that flat does not exist, or there would be no possible way to hold a president accountable.
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that... (show quote)



Broad as the power of inquiry is, it is not unlimited. The power of investigation may properly be employed only “in aid of the legislative function.”190 Its outermost boundaries are marked, then, by the outermost boundaries of the power to legislate. In principle, the Court is clear on the limitations, clear “that neither house of Congress possesses a ‘general power of making inquiry into the private affairs of the citizen’; that the power actually possessed is limited to inquiries relating to matters of which the particular house ‘has jurisdiction’ and in respect of which it rightfully may take other action; that if the inquiry relates to ‘a matter wherein relief or redress could be had only by a judicial proceeding’ it is not within the range of this power, but must be left to the courts, conformably to the constitutional separation of governmental powers; and that for the purpose of determining the essential character of the inquiry recourse must be had to the resolution or order under which it is made.”191

In practice, much of the litigated dispute has been about the reach of the power to inquire into the activities of private citizens; inquiry into the administration of laws and departmental corruption, while of substantial political consequence, has given rise to fewer judicial precedents.
https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-1/05-congressional-investigations.html

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May 21, 2019 18:49:44   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
karpenter wrote:
When Dem's Lose Their Majority
What Will They Do, What Will They Do....

Skulk off back into the shadows where they came from and hopefully climb back under whatever rock they slithered out from in the first place. If we never hear a peep from them again I'll be happy with that. There are a few though, who won't accept the sanity of their rejection and will attempt some subterfuge or other similar to the 'Collusion Delusion'. I would have no qualms about executing them in summary fashion and sticking their heads on pikes for their co-conspirators to see on a daily basis. That should bring them into line nicely.

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May 21, 2019 19:10:30   #
karpenter Loc: Headin' Fer Da Hills !!
 
Larry the Legend wrote:
..who won't accept the sanity of their rejection and will attempt some subterfuge or other similar to the 'Collusion Delusion'
Astounding, Ain' It ?
When Wrong Repeatedly
Normal People Step Back And Re-Assess

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May 21, 2019 19:17:31   #
Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton
 
karpenter wrote:
Astounding, Ain' It ?
When Wrong Repeatedly
Normal People Step Back And Re-Assess

You're on the wrong topic to be using the word 'normal'. There's nothing normal about it, they're twisted and warped beyond anything recognizably normal. They can't even recognize when a law is in play, and don't bother referencing morality, they have none.

Yes, astounding might be apropos as would mind-numbing, dumbfounding and outrageous.

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May 22, 2019 08:41:54   #
crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island
 
woodguru wrote:
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that works, endless, over and over, spending more money than Mueller did even though they found nothing.

Holder tried to withhold some information on "fast and furious" after releasing thousands of pages, courts upheld the right of congress to get what they wanted.

It is the job of congress to oversee and challenge executive overreach, how can they do it if the president has the authority to prevent them from seeing documents they want or talking to people involved whether they work for the administration or not?

Holder's feet were held to the fire by congress, what makes Barr so special that he can't be held accountable?

The white house and DOJ are claiming executive immunity that flat does not exist, or there would be no possible way to hold a president accountable.
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that... (show quote)



And what part of not breaking the law do you & Democrats not understand?

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May 22, 2019 11:22:39   #
TrueAmerican
 
woodguru wrote:
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that works, endless, over and over, spending more money than Mueller did even though they found nothing.

Holder tried to withhold some information on "fast and furious" after releasing thousands of pages, courts upheld the right of congress to get what they wanted.

It is the job of congress to oversee and challenge executive overreach, how can they do it if the president has the authority to prevent them from seeing documents they want or talking to people involved whether they work for the administration or not?

Holder's feet were held to the fire by congress, what makes Barr so special that he can't be held accountable?

The white house and DOJ are claiming executive immunity that flat does not exist, or there would be no possible way to hold a president accountable.
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that... (show quote)


NO they cannot we live in a constitutional republic not a communist state !!!!!!

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May 22, 2019 12:17:31   #
vernon
 
woodguru wrote:
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that works, endless, over and over, spending more money than Mueller did even though they found nothing.

Holder tried to withhold some information on "fast and furious" after releasing thousands of pages, courts upheld the right of congress to get what they wanted.

It is the job of congress to oversee and challenge executive overreach, how can they do it if the president has the authority to prevent them from seeing documents they want or talking to people involved whether they work for the administration or not?

Holder's feet were held to the fire by congress, what makes Barr so special that he can't be held accountable?

The white house and DOJ are claiming executive immunity that flat does not exist, or there would be no possible way to hold a president accountable.
Think Benghazi if you need a refresher on how that... (show quote)



Holder was held in contempt of congress! Obama was held in contempt of the supreme court. So don't
come up with all that crap,and Obama issued over 20 executive privilege covering up for known communist and criminals.

I have been reading all this clap trap from you for the last several days and just ignored it but you just went to far.Now quit pretending you know law YOU DON"T.

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May 22, 2019 14:00:23   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
vernon wrote:
Holder was held in contempt of congress! Obama was held in contempt of the supreme court. So don't
come up with all that crap,and Obama issued over 20 executive privilege covering up for known communist and criminals.

I have been reading all this clap trap from you for the last several days and just ignored it but you just went to far.Now quit pretending you know law YOU DON"T.


Wasting your time with this clown Vernon. He's an admitted troll. Waste of time.

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May 22, 2019 14:08:56   #
America 1 Loc: South Miami
 
woodguru wrote:
They are not making anything up, the Mueller report outlined the role McGahn played when he documented Trump's attempts to get him to fire Mueller, then his being told to lie and to change the formal records.

Putting him on the stand is about letting the american public and the GOP hear in his own words what happened.


The Washington Post, quoting people familiar with the matter, reports the DOJ is deferring to Mueller because he wants discussions beyond what's in his report that's been released publicly to be held behind closed doors.
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/mueller-house-democrats-barr/2019/05/22/id/917083/?ns_mail_uid=bc415d70-d6e1-4e8c-9a10-26a8118a4c94&ns_mail_job=DM29870_05222019&s=acs&dkt_nbr=0105023uzoop

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