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May 18, 2019 02:55:14   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Absolutely.


I will text you this evening (your morning) as I have just arrived at work...

Thanks for your patience and for the query..

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May 18, 2019 07:30:29   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
As I have already explained... I am aware of and have read numerous works on Christianity and other faiths...

While bebating I rarely reference them directly... But instead rely upon my own understanding of their reasoning to demonstrate my own understanding...

Providing a link to something that one believes answers a question, but being unable to explain how it answers the question is not referencinf anything...It is deflecting from one's own inability to answer the question..


That is nonsense.

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You are the first to actually ask me how I interpret that verse... And I am happy to answer....

I will PM you if that is acceptable?


Not true. I have asked you more than once and you never answered.

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May 18, 2019 07:58:05   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Nor is it my desire to do so...

I am sad that you believe us to be adversaries..

Be blessed Rose...


Not adversaries. Satan is my adversary. He wants people to believe they don’t need to be saved, Christ isn’t necessary for salvation, to rely on their own wisdom rather than God’s and to believe the bible isn’t to be taken literally.

Don’t let him devour you.

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May 18, 2019 08:35:36   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
dTucker, my grandchildren could assemble a more entertaining display than that on their I-Phones...

How proud you must be to display the limitation of your debate skills.


dtucker300 wrote:
Me:
You:
Me: img src="https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com... (show quote)

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May 18, 2019 08:49:12   #
Zemirah Loc: Sojourner En Route...
 
Whose opinion do you argue in a debate, dtucker?

Your great uncles? Einsteins? You 3rd cousins - twice removed?

Those with no opinion don't engage in debating in a forum.

The very existence of God is argued here continually, yet the theory of Evolution is an unarguable "Universal truth," where no one can detour from the much traveled road of brainwashed public opinion?

Your conclusion defies reason and common sense.

I added a full page of factual historical documented information on the life of Charles Darwin.

You, on the other hand, have added fury, smoke and mirrors.

Railing at me doesn't change that.



dtucker300 wrote:
Zemirah,

You want to continue to argue your OPINIONS about your understanding of all things pertaining to God and Christianity, and you react to every perceived slight of anything you said. Here is some reality for you... At this point, you have not added anything else to the conversation by telling everyone how wrong they are because you deny universal truths.

I will let you have the last word because it appears to be very important to you. I will not answer your questions as that would dignify them. I don't need your validation for what I have said. Others will read and decide for themselves.

I have said what I meant and meant what I said. I think my words are clear and speak for themselves.

We will have to agree that we disagree!
Zemirah, br br You want to continue to argue you... (show quote)

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May 18, 2019 08:52:33   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Zemirah wrote:
Whose opinion do you argue in a debate, dtucker?

Your great uncles? Einsteins? You 3rd cousins - twice removed?

Those with no opinion don't engage in debating in a forum.

The very existence of God is argued here continually, yet the theory of Evolution is an unarguable "Universal truth," where no one can detour from the much traveled road of brainwashed public opinion?

Your conclusion defies reason and common sense.

I added a full page of factual historical documented information on the life of Charles Darwin.

You, on the other hand, have added fury, smoke and mirrors.

Railing at me doesn't change that.
Whose opinion do you argue in a debate, dtucker? b... (show quote)


Wrong thread...

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May 18, 2019 08:53:10   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Not adversaries. Satan is my adversary. He wants people to believe they don’t need to be saved, Christ isn’t necessary for salvation, to rely on their own wisdom rather than God’s and to believe the bible isn’t to be taken literally.

Don’t let him devour you.


I appreciate the sentiment...

Eyes wide, ears open...

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May 18, 2019 08:57:47   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Not true. I have asked you more than once and you never answered.


Truly?

My apologies...

That doesn't sound like me...

Are you sure that I didn't assure you that I interpreted it differently from you... And Then you told me there is only one way (God's way) to interpret it... Which would make my sharing my actual interpretation kind of pointless?

I truly don't recall you asking me... But apologies if my statement to Blade was wrong...

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May 18, 2019 16:34:19   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Truly?

My apologies...

That doesn't sound like me...

Are you sure that I didn't assure you that I interpreted it differently from you... And Then you told me there is only one way (God's way) to interpret it... Which would make my sharing my actual interpretation kind of pointless?

I truly don't recall you asking me... But apologies if my statement to Blade was wrong...
Truly? br br My apologies... br br That doesn't ... (show quote)


Yes I have asked. Not to tell you its wrong. Just out of curiosity.

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May 18, 2019 16:59:09   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Rose42 wrote:
Yes I have asked. Not to tell you its wrong. Just out of curiosity.


And now I feel bad...

Apologies if I misread your motives...

Would you be interested in my sending you a PM of my understanding?

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May 18, 2019 21:38:27   #
Rose42
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And now I feel bad...

Apologies if I misread your motives...

Would you be interested in my sending you a PM of my understanding?


You bet.

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May 18, 2019 21:47:35   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
And now I feel bad...

Apologies if I misread your motives...

Would you be interested in my sending you a PM of my understanding?


I have no doubt that there are many ‘readers’ on OPP that would love to hear your explanation after reading this thread for 44 pages!!!!!!! So....... I am also asking the question and I want to share it with all the other Readers of OPP! You mustn’t demand others to answer your questions and then want to hide your answer to their questions in a PM while all the while discussing this question in this thread for pages and pages!

Why are you compelled to explain why you refuse to accept that Jesus said that he is THE way and not A way, only in a private PM? Very Curious! Why the secrecy?

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May 18, 2019 22:18:03   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Hello Texacan...

Long time...
Hope you are well... And your husband..
Have you finished the move? Settled in?

TexaCan wrote:
I have no doubt that there are many ‘readers’ on OPP that would love to hear your explanation after reading this thread for 44 pages!!!!!!! So....... I am also asking the question and I want to share it with all the other Readers of OPP! You mustn’t demand others to answer your questions and then want to hide your answer to their questions in a PM while all the while discussing this question in this thread for pages and pages!


You make a fair point...
To which I will respond as I have in my PM's to both Blade and Rose...

I am not shy concerning my beliefs... But I don't attempt to proselytize, and I am leery of being attacked by fanatics for having a different understanding from them....

I would also point out that my demand for an answer to my question was prompted by being told an answer existed but not being provided with that answer...
I would have been happy to receive the answer via PM or on the open forum...

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Why are you compelled to explain why you refuse to accept that Jesus said that he is THE way and not A way, only in a private PM? Very Curious! Why the secrecy?


Firstly... I have never claimed not to accept what Jesus said... I have always claimed to have a different understanding...

Compelled? Not at all...
Secrecy? Not at all...

But why should I offer up my sincere understandings if I am not attempting to sway others to my beliefs? And can only expect contempt and ridicule in return...


A sincere question: Do you believe that before Blade Runner asked there were any here who were sincerely interested in my understanding? Or were they merely interested in attacking my beliefs and attempting to demean them?

Tommy shared his undstanding and was not treated civily or respectfully...

If base ridicule is all one can expect then I believe one is justified in being selective concerning who one shares one's beliefs with...


Can you accept that individuals, via the exercise of their freewill and reasoning, might have different understandings of the Lord?

And that having different understandings in no way negates or challenges your own faith?

Which allows for all of God's children to engage in civil discussion and grow in understanding of His glory via the sharing of their collective knowledge?

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May 19, 2019 08:07:48   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Hello Texacan...

Long time...
Hope you are well... And your husband..
Have you finished the move? Settled in?



Firstly... I have never claimed not to accept what Jesus said... I have always claimed to have a different understanding...

Compelled? Not at all...
Secrecy? Not at all...

But why should I offer up my sincere understandings if I am not attempting to sway others to my beliefs? And can only expect contempt and ridicule in return...


A sincere question: Do you believe that before Blade Runner asked there were any here who were sincerely interested in my understanding? Or were they merely interested in attacking my beliefs and attempting to demean them?

Tommy shared his undstanding and was not treated civily or respectfully...

If base ridicule is all one can expect then I believe one is justified in being selective concerning who one shares one's beliefs with...


Can you accept that individuals, via the exercise of their freewill and reasoning, might have different understandings of the Lord?

And that having different understandings in no way negates or challenges your own faith?

Which allows for all of God's children to engage in civil discussion and grow in understanding of His glory via the sharing of their collective knowledge?
Hello Texacan... br br Long time... br Hope you... (show quote)


"But why should I offer up my sincere understanding if I am not attempting to sway others to my beliefs?"

That's the weakest excuse I have ever read on this forum! But if that's what you want to go with!

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May 19, 2019 09:02:06   #
Morgan
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Rose, I have never met, nor do I know a Christian of any denomination who does not believe that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are the multi-dimensional aspects of ONE GOD. After all, we live in a multi-dimensional universe, and we, ourselves, are multi-dimensional creatures (created in His image).

The word "Universe" comes from unity in diversity.

To perceive God as a being in one dimension is to deny Him so very much.

While the word "Trinity" is not in the Bible, nor is it defined as such, the substance of the doctrine is definitely biblical. There are about 700 references to the 3 in 1 and 1 in 3 nature of Yahweh in the Bible, including references from 26 of the 27 books of the New Testament. A proper evaluation of the biblical evidence for the doctrine of the Trinity will depend on the faithful application of sound principles of biblical interpretation.

There are literally dozens of approaches to Bible study and dozens of accepted principles for Bible interpretation, and of those principles, the most important is to remember that the Bible was written for believers, not skeptics, and that the approach to interpretation should be God-centered, not man-centered. IOW, the Bible was written so that we would come to know Him, and not the other way around. Yahweh already knows who we are.
Rose, I have never met, nor do I know a Christian ... (show quote)



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