Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?
This could go on, and on........
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?
This could go on, and on........
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And what makes you think Trade Schools aren't pushed even a little bit? The majority of kids who graduate HS today can't make it through a 4-year college so ARE being steered towards the trades else they should be happy with MickyD's...
I agree totally. Many children aren't gifted in math or literature, but they're very educable in laying carpet or putting up sheet rock. There are many trades that are begging for applicants that pay well. Teach them a good work ethic and a skill that gives them autonomy.
PeterS wrote:
And what makes you think Trade Schools aren't pushed even a little bit? The majority of kids who graduate HS today can't make it through a 4-year college so ARE being steered towards the trades else they should be happy with MickyD's...
Back that one up. Prove it. No shop classes in Jr high, and high school. Where do you get that?
PeterS wrote:
And what makes you think Trade Schools aren't pushed even a little bit? The majority of kids who graduate HS today can't make it through a 4-year college so ARE being steered towards the trades else they should be happy with MickyD's...
My nephew is an electrician, steady work and prob makes more than a college grad that has to work at amazon or mickys! Owns a home and paid off truck no student debt! Jerkoff
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?
This could go on, and on........
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In my day we had wood shop-- Machine shop ---Automotive shop and welding offered as courses----Now a thing of the past. After my military days I went into Carpenters Apprenticeship offered by the Carpenters Union. Now Unions are hated villians by the right wing. We have a lack of good tradesmen and an over abundance of computer engineers. We have awful representation and dipshits in charge of school districts who care only about delegating authority and demanding more money and benefits.
archie bunker wrote:
Back that one up. Prove it. No shop classes in Jr high, and high school. Where do you get that?
What does JH shop have to do with trades? Honest to god Archie, you are something else. Here in Dallas our Community Colleges are very much geared to develop quality tradespeople from auto mechanics to Bakery Chiefs. And yes, our high schools do push students into these programs--because as I said--the majority of today's HS students can't make it through a 4-year institution.
https://www.dcccd.edu/pages/default.aspxThey might even have a spot for you...
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
In my day we had wood shop-- Machine shop ---Automotive shop and welding offered as courses----Now a thing of the past. After my military days I went into Carpenters Apprenticeship offered by the Carpenters Union. Now Unions are hated villians by the right wing. We have a lack of good tradesmen and an over abundance of computer engineers. We have awful representation and dipshits in charge of school districts who care only about delegating authority and demanding more money and benefits.
Here in Dallas, these have all Trades have been pushed to our Community Colleges. They are excellent programs and yes, students are steered to them...
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
In my day we had wood shop-- Machine shop ---Automotive shop and welding offered as courses----Now a thing of the past. After my military days I went into Carpenters Apprenticeship offered by the Carpenters Union. Now Unions are hated villians by the right wing. We have a lack of good tradesmen and an over abundance of computer engineers. We have awful representation and dipshits in charge of school districts who care only about delegating authority and demanding more money and benefits.
I agree with you on all except that the unions are hated by the right. Many unions supported President Trump and I'm guessing more will in 2020. You're SO right about tradesmen. In the 80s everyone wanted to be a lawyer and the market was flooded with juris doctors. Then in the 90s it was an MBA. 2000s - computer tech. Good grief!
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?
This could go on, and on........
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Our high school has welding, wood shop, and auto mechanics.
BTW Arch, how about just a little more subject line for the topic? Why just Why?
archie bunker wrote:
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit? Why?
When you need your pipes fixed, who do you call?
Your wiring needs fixed, who do you call?
You want a building built, who do you call?
New cabinets for your kitchen?
Are you gonna call the guy with the "Liberal Arts" degree, or are you gonna call the guy who knows how to do the job?
What if your car breaks down. Who you gonna call? The purple haired gal with a 4 year degree in "Womens Studies", or the person who is educated about how to fix your car?
This could go on, and on........
Why aren't trade schools pushed even a little bit?... (
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We actually have Occupational Centers all over the Valley where i live...
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
My nephew is an electrician, steady work and prob makes more than a college grad that has to work at amazon or mickys! Owns a home and paid off truck no student debt! Jerkoff
Good for him. As I have been saying the majority of high school students today can't make it through a 4-year college so they are just wasting their time trying. I live in the Dallas area and our Community Colleges offer every trade imaginable. And the advantage of a CC is that they are very cheap and you can learn a trade without going into debt up the wazoo...
PeterS wrote:
Here in Dallas, these have all Trades have been pushed to our Community Colleges. They are excellent programs and yes, students are steered to them...
They should be in High Schools-- Most people never go to college-- They can't.
I told my boys at an early age "If you can fix stuff you'll never starve". The high school I attended from '55 - '59 had two divisions, Senior for business & academic and Technical. I took classes in both and it's really paid off.
PeterS wrote:
What does JH shop have to do with trades? Honest to god Archie, you are something else. Here in Dallas our Community Colleges are very much geared to develop quality tradespeople from auto mechanics to Bakery Chiefs. And yes, our high schools do push students into these programs--because as I said--the majority of today's HS students can't make it through a 4-year institution.
https://www.dcccd.edu/pages/default.aspxThey might even have a spot for you...
Shop classes plant the seeds, and start developing skills, and knowledge needed to pursue a career in one of the trades. They also spawn interest in trades.
And I did attend a couple of trade schools, and worked with a Master for some time before going out on my own.
Now that I've settled that, you wanna take another shot at my family? I'm expecting it, so bring it.
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