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May 16, 2019 00:10:02   #
lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas
 
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.

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May 16, 2019 00:19:58   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spou... (show quote)


You know that Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism against Americans and Israel???...As soon as they stop killing us,we will stop killing them,..If you feel so bad for them,go join their army of murderous goons!!!

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May 16, 2019 00:36:07   #
billman6 Loc: Top of Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spou... (show quote)


So you were ok with giving these terrorists $150 million in cash? How stupid are you, honestly? The JCPOA was a garbage deal. Can you really not figure that out? Just cause your boy Kerry and your Kenyan president that you love did the deal, is that the only reason you like it? Geez

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May 16, 2019 01:05:00   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spou... (show quote)


Well said...

And well stated...


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May 16, 2019 01:17:35   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spou... (show quote)


Bravo Sierra Alpha Hotel.

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May 16, 2019 02:10:26   #
PeterS
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spou... (show quote)

The Iraq war was started over the Bush administrations use of fallacies. Anyone else find it ironic that Trump is going to fall for the same damn thing.

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May 16, 2019 02:13:08   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Bravo Sierra Alpha Hotel.
img src="https://static.onepoliticalplaza.com/ima... (show quote)

Circular logic is part of using falacies for argument. You should give a thumbs up for that--it fits right into your wheelhouse...Tango Zulu Alpha Charlie...

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May 16, 2019 02:14:31   #
PeterS
 
proud republican wrote:
You know that Iran is the biggest sponsor of terrorism against Americans and Israel???...As soon as they stop killing us,we will stop killing them,..If you feel so bad for them,go join their army of murderous goons!!!
You know that Iran is the biggest sponsor of terro... (show quote)

If that's the case then there would be no reason to use circular arguments to build a case for war...

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May 16, 2019 02:48:14   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Circular logic is part of using falacies for argument. You should give a thumbs up for that--it fits right into your wheelhouse...Tango Zulu Alpha Charlie...
Stupid little boy.

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May 16, 2019 05:45:14   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Stupid little boy.

That's all you have? More and more you are no fun at all...

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May 16, 2019 05:55:59   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spou... (show quote)


What part of "Death to America" do you fail to comprehend.....Dufus ?

You don't need an intelligence briefing when your enemies are broadcasting their desire to destroy your country.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/04/26/iranians-urged-to-use-new-app-with-death-to-america-emoji/amp/

There will be no end to war.

So quit blubbering and deal with it..................... Goober.

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May 16, 2019 08:04:01   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
billman6 wrote:
So you were ok with giving these terrorists $150 million in cash? How stupid are you, honestly? The JCPOA was a garbage deal. Can you really not figure that out? Just cause your boy Kerry and your Kenyan president that you love did the deal, is that the only reason you like it? Geez



If I'm not mistaken, that figure was $1.5 Billions. I thank God often that we don't have Hillary and her crew pulling the strings. MAGA.

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May 16, 2019 13:45:00   #
Sew_What
 
billman6 wrote:
So you were ok with giving these terrorists $150 million in cash? How stupid are you, honestly? The JCPOA was a garbage deal. Can you really not figure that out? Just cause your boy Kerry and your Kenyan president that you love did the deal, is that the only reason you like it? Geez


It's their money, they probably loaned it back to us.

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May 16, 2019 21:33:36   #
billman6 Loc: Top of Texas
 
Sew_What wrote:
It's their money, they probably loaned it back to us.


Your probably right

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May 17, 2019 06:00:53   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
lpnmajor wrote:
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spout a lot of gibberish, ostensibly as an attempt to justify America's belligerent stance toward Iran. Here's the argument; the senate armed forces committee has received reports of Iranian terrorism escalation and advised the administration to take steps. Did they receive these reports from our Intelligence services? Nope, they got them from the State Department. Did the State department get IT'S intelligence from our intelligence services? Nope, they got it from the White House, specifically from the National Security council lead by, yep, you guessed it............Bolton.

So, the senate believes that Iran is at the brink of war, because the Pompeo says they are, who got his intel from Bolton..........................who just made shit up..........................and advised Trump to do something. It's no secret that Mr. Potato Head has had a hardon for Iran since before he got to the Senate, and has been merciless in his condemnation of the JCPOA and was instrumental in getting Trump to abandon the deal..............well, along with Netanyahu of course.

We know from the Iraq debacle, that whenever an administration wants a war, they direct their own Intelligence sources to provide the justification for it......................and get it. We also know that, eventually, the truth comes out and America regrets getting duped again by their own leaders. How many young service members will need to die this time, how many bodies permanently damaged, to satisfy some political or personal agenda?

If nothing else, Americans should DEMAND that we end one of our current wars, before starting another one. The Armed Forces are NOT the enforcers for politicians and their agendas, yet time and again, that's exactly what they are used for. Military intervention should be the LAST resort, yet we've become comfortable making it the FIRST tool out of the box. Every time we open that toolbox, someone's sons and daughters, someone's Mother or Father - dies.
I just watched Mr. Potato head ( tom cotton ) spou... (show quote)


Great, you're against open borders then, right? Because they cause the same results.

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