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Apr 24, 2019 10:21:36   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
Mike, I can see nothing evil in policy that helps the average American rather then only the small number of very rich as we are doing now..

While your concern about morals/values maybe apt, it was hardly a new thing, have you watched old Tarzan movies?

The one with Jane and Tarzan doing loops butt naked, full frontal under water..

Wonder how they manage to film those.. early special effects?


Sorry my friend, but Progressives only talk about doing good things and those things are cost prohibitive but they sound good and give them a certain amount of cover. This does not mean free stuff is good but that's their main selling point. What progressives have actually accomplished more than anything else is to codify immorality. Don't misunderstand me in that there are millions of Americans who not only approve of but are attracted by hedonism and will support progressive efforts because progressives approve immoral behavior.

Old Tarzan movies? You've got to be kidding!

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Apr 24, 2019 11:19:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
Sorry my friend, but Progressives only talk about doing good things and those things are cost prohibitive but they sound good and give them a certain amount of cover. This does not mean free stuff is good but that's their main selling point. What progressives have actually accomplished more than anything else is to codify immorality. Don't misunderstand me in that there are millions of Americans who not only approve of but are attracted by hedonism and will support progressive efforts because progressives approve immoral behavior.

Old Tarzan movies? You've got to be kidding!
Sorry my friend, but Progressives only talk about ... (show quote)



not kidding about the Tarzan movie.. ever see it?

I think you view your political opinions the same way you view your religious beliefs..

Which makes them a matter of faith, not logic.. I will not try to argue over faith issues..

With you faith and politics seem to be the same..

I disagree with both your faith and your politics...

But I admire you faith..

Have a good day Mike..



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Apr 24, 2019 12:09:49   #
eden
 
permafrost wrote:
??? What in the world is wrong about "Easter worshipers"???


You are disturbing their manufactured outrage and attempts at victimhood and martyrdom.

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Apr 24, 2019 12:35:33   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
eden wrote:
You are disturbing their manufactured outrage and attempts at victimhood and martyrdom.



The trump supporters seem never to be at a loss for finding wrongdoing in the normal language..



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Apr 24, 2019 12:54:01   #
jeff smith
 
permafrost wrote:
Gee Mike...

You have such a polyglot of beliefs... truly no place to start on your nice little rant without going on for volumes...

So I will only say that nearly all of what you post is not a proper description of what Democrat/libs believe..

It is more what the alt-right media babbles on about every day, virtually none of it is true..

My own core beliefs can be stated quite shortly..

I am absolutely for equal rights and equal opportunity for all Americans..

That is about the limit for me. But we/i can get into unending tangents and side issues on everything and argue all day every day..

So for the here and now.. trump is by far the most harmful thing to challenge our nation in my life time..

Some of your rant I can agree with, but for most I simply maintain that your notion of what we champion is very wrong..

We can go back and forth on nearly anything on you list.. but for now.. I am hanging it up and reading a very poor book that I am saddled with for now..

In fact I am still recovering from the week end, which in this case was never ending from Thursday to 9pm last night..

Filled with border line relatives and hangers on who I barely knew.
But I guess it was fun.. this time many brought food rather then depending on the cooking skills of my wife..

Hope you had a good one..

We can get into it about anything on your post anyold time..

so good night and prosper as some one said..
Gee Mike... br br You have such a polyglot of bel... (show quote)

the NRA , is not a organization which profits from the death of children . that is an out right LIE ! they fight for and defend our 2 nd. amendment right to keep and bare arms . plus they have educational classes all over this country to teach proper use of a firearm . as for our President , how is he the " most harmful thing to happen to America? he speaks his mind and tells people the truth . not like obumer keep your dr. your ins. your rates will go down . or sell military grade firearms to the cartel . which some were used to KILL Americans . or hitlary , it's only my yoga classes and plans of chelsies wedding . then finding classified e-mails on her private personal server . the witch should of been barred from public service and put under the prison . for at least 30 years . " NO COLLUSION NO UBSTRUCTION " for President Trump . all made up lies from the bimbocrates to divide this country more than obumer did , sense hitlary didn't get elected , to finish the job . but you dem. followers still want to hang on every word them liars say as if it's gospel truth . such a sad thing that so many dem. followers are so blind to the reality of what is going on . wake up some day and take a look around . don't believe everything you see or hear . it might be a mirage , into fooling you to think what they want you to think .

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Apr 24, 2019 13:06:58   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
not kidding about the Tarzan movie.. ever see it?

I think you view your political opinions the same way you view your religious beliefs..

Which makes them a matter of faith, not logic.. I will not try to argue over faith issues..

With you faith and politics seem to be the same..

I disagree with both your faith and your politics...

But I admire you faith..

Have a good day Mike..


You do realize that it was progressives who intentionally forced religious issues of morality into politics don't you. So of course politics have becomes an inseparable issue of faith for Conservatives. And what sort of immoral person is it who compromises his faith for politics? It's the same sort of person who can also compromise his nation for both political and spiritual expediency. (Your political party is full and overflowing with them.) Let us not forget that before the Marxist philosophy of the Progressives infected the left there was no difference between the spirituality of both political parties. The serious troubles in America today are not political, they're spiritual. Literally, we're in an internal battle for survival between good and evil. Consider how violently the left reacted at the Kavanaugh hearing when just the mere thought that women might be stopped from murdering their children became an issue. There is no question that Progressives call evil good and good evil. This is the worst state in which a person can ever become. It is the greatest of all evils because people in this state truly believe they are doing good. Best give this a lot of soul searching, quiet, reflective and contemplative consideration and attention. There is a point at which it becomes practically impossible for a person to overcome evil. I would not lie to you.

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Apr 24, 2019 13:26:08   #
AHO-C
 
eden wrote:
You are disturbing their manufactured outrage and attempts at victimhood and martyrdom.


Perm/Eden....Here are the issues in regards to Obama ( and HRC) using the phrase 'Easter Worshipers'...1st and foremost both of these individuals profess to be Christians. To the best of my knowledge the word 'Easter' is derived from the ancient word Spring. Spring symbolizes the return to life of plants and flowers in regards to nature. In the Christian religion Easter symbolizes Christ's Resurrection. Consequently, Christians do not worship Easter...they worship Christ !! I believe if a non-Christian said the phrase their ignorance would be overlooked, however, a Christian calling other Christians 'Easter Worshipers' would be no different than a Muslim calling other Muslims a 'Ramadan Worshiper'...when in fact the significance of Ramada is to commemorate the first revelation of the Quran to Muhammad.
I personally see no benefit to losing my temper over something Obama or Hillary utter whether it be out of ignorance,contempt, or attempting to ' talk down to the commoners, even though our Society is predominantly Christian in its makeup'....however , if a Muslim were to express such ignorance in a predominantly Muslim country ( ie a nation of Islam) the consequences would result in his ability to fast...on a permanent basis, with no further damage done to his well being...if you get what I mean!!

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Apr 24, 2019 13:48:23   #
jeff smith
 
permafrost wrote:
The trump supporters seem never to be at a loss for finding wrongdoing in the normal language..


so why do you hate TRUMP? seems to be doing FOR this country quite a lot . yep there are a lot of dems. who hate hie . hitlary lost and couldn't finish the destruction of America that obumer started . yep there are rinos. who hate him also. but the dems. and the rinos. that hate him , hate him the most , "I think " because they are swamp rats . we need term limits on reps. and senators . get the pay to play people out of congress . oh! those Europeans that don't like him . well if you only payed a portion of the bills you were suppose to pay and some one came by and told you that you have to start paying your fair share . I might be angry too . all of your bimbocratic logic is such a waste of energy and time . not to mention the waste of tax dollars .

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Apr 24, 2019 14:07:08   #
AHO-C
 
jeff smith wrote:
so why do you hate TRUMP? seems to be doing FOR this country quite a lot . yep there are a lot of dems. who hate hie . hitlary lost and couldn't finish the destruction of America that obumer started . yep there are rinos. who hate him also. but the dems. and the rinos. that hate him , hate him the most , "I think " because they are swamp rats . we need term limits on reps. and senators . get the pay to play people out of congress . oh! those Europeans that don't like him . well if you only payed a portion of the bills you were suppose to pay and some one came by and told you that you have to start paying your fair share . I might be angry too . all of your bimbocratic logic is such a waste of energy and time . not to mention the waste of tax dollars .
so why do you hate TRUMP? seems to be doing FOR t... (show quote)


Jeff, great post!! I would like to add: They live in basic dorms built by the public, and are fed by the public; no retirement; same medical care as us; their pay is based on the pay the average American family makes.
No flying ...they use Mass Transit !!

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Apr 24, 2019 15:17:22   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
jeff smith wrote:
the NRA , is not a organization which profits from the death of children . that is an out right LIE ! they fight for and defend our 2 nd. amendment right to keep and bare arms . plus they have educational classes all over this country to teach proper use of a firearm . as for our President , how is he the " most harmful thing to happen to America? he speaks his mind and tells people the truth . not like obumer keep your dr. your ins. your rates will go down . or sell military grade firearms to the cartel . which some were used to KILL Americans . or hitlary , it's only my yoga classes and plans of chelsies wedding . then finding classified e-mails on her private personal server . the witch should of been barred from public service and put under the prison . for at least 30 years . " NO COLLUSION NO UBSTRUCTION " for President Trump . all made up lies from the bimbocrates to divide this country more than obumer did , sense hitlary didn't get elected , to finish the job . but you dem. followers still want to hang on every word them liars say as if it's gospel truth . such a sad thing that so many dem. followers are so blind to the reality of what is going on . wake up some day and take a look around . don't believe everything you see or hear . it might be a mirage , into fooling you to think what they want you to think .
the NRA , is not a organization which profits from... (show quote)




You are pretty bewildered are you not..

The NRA has changed from an organization for shooters, hunters and outdoors men when I was a member into a sales organization for the gun industry and a lobbing group for the republicans..
Oh yes, they also channeled Russian money to the Republican party.. do not want to ever forget that..

the orange shit h***, let us look at only one thing, which is about all his accomplishments amount to,
The tax gift to the rich.. short term effect on the stock market and huge bonus and stock buy back profit to upper managment..

No effect on anyother part of our exonomy.

The part 80% of Americans got.... temorary limited cut in the tax rate, these are temporary and will be gone in a few years..
Also gone are the exemptions and deductions which middle class Americans used for years to gain some tax relief.
So with those gone and the lower tax rate gone, what will you all do?

The trillion and half gift to t he rich will have to be paid for.. the National Debt at some point must be paid down.. only the working/middle class are now held to paying for these thing alone..

Of course, you may be dead so what the hell do you care.. Right?

Obama quotes were correct for the ACA version at that time.. the one that passed contained different rules..

trump sells arms to his money buddies the Saudi so they can rain death and misery on the Yemenis.

the guns track down idea came about from bush days and was an ATF project..

AHHHH, the Mueller report.. it did find that no court would accept the evidence against the orange ass, so dropped due to lack of evidence.. the specific view of obstruction is that trump could not be exonerated, but given that the DOJ supports the idea that a sitting president can not be indited, no action was taken..

Can you think of any other thing the orange useless blob of protoplasm can be tossed about??

Do you truly want to work at less then minimum wage, with no SS or Medicare?

Very strange group you hang out with, I have to give you that..



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Apr 24, 2019 15:26:20   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
You do realize that it was progressives who intentionally forced religious issues of morality into politics don't you. So of course politics have becomes an inseparable issue of faith for Conservatives. And what sort of immoral person is it who compromises his faith for politics? It's the same sort of person who can also compromise his nation for both political and spiritual expediency. (Your political party is full and overflowing with them.) Let us not forget that before the Marxist philosophy of the Progressives infected the left there was no difference between the spirituality of both political parties. The serious troubles in America today are not political, they're spiritual. Literally, we're in an internal battle for survival between good and evil. Consider how violently the left reacted at the Kavanaugh hearing when just the mere thought that women might be stopped from murdering their children became an issue. There is no question that Progressives call evil good and good evil. This is the worst state in which a person can ever become. It is the greatest of all evils because people in this state truly believe they are doing good. Best give this a lot of soul searching, quiet, reflective and contemplative consideration and attention. There is a point at which it becomes practically impossible for a person to overcome evil. I would not lie to you.
You do realize that it was progressives who intent... (show quote)


Mike, you beliefs are off the wall about Democrats/Liberals

What and who would you say was the first religious/political issue? and when..

Kavanaugh was a sex predator in the same class as the orange pervert you voted for..

But that you think is very fine.. But a Democrat who objects to your hating of a Muslim.. damn that is beyond you ability to accept..

But I will not go after your faith as you seem to wish.. and it seem your faith equals your politics..

Now, in keeping with my self pledge to avoid as much hate speak as I can, think I will wish you a good day, and adios until another day..



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Apr 24, 2019 16:00:18   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
jeff smith wrote:
so why do you hate TRUMP? seems to be doing FOR this country quite a lot . yep there are a lot of dems. who hate hie . hitlary lost and couldn't finish the destruction of America that obumer started . yep there are rinos. who hate him also. but the dems. and the rinos. that hate him , hate him the most , "I think " because they are swamp rats . we need term limits on reps. and senators . get the pay to play people out of congress . oh! those Europeans that don't like him . well if you only payed a portion of the bills you were suppose to pay and some one came by and told you that you have to start paying your fair share . I might be angry too . all of your bimbocratic logic is such a waste of energy and time . not to mention the waste of tax dollars .
so why do you hate TRUMP? seems to be doing FOR t... (show quote)


jeff, I could use only one of his deed and that is well worth despising the fool forever..

what can you make of the Tax/Natl. debt balance that now exists a/c of his tax gift to the very rich?

I felt that his personal insults alone would keep him out of the election..

When he ridiculed the disabled reporter, I was sure he was done and gone.. but nothing ever sinks into the heads of his supporters.. the insult about the personal appearance of his head of ICE or some such.. when that man left.. about his big ears.. what a stupid spoiled kid sort of remark.. how can anyone in the world have any respect for a grown man who does such things..

And they are not even the important problem he has.. only his being a nasty POS..

His unending and obvious lies should make you heave you guts out..

But no... you call him wonderful. one of you women members actually called him gods gift..

Honest.. a bunch of nut cases..

Now with the orange scab on his downward spiral, you keep wanting to bitch about President Obama or Lady Hillary.

They are not in office and did indeed receive my criticizem while they were active.. but what the heck do they have to do with the here and now??

Are you spouting about NATO?

have you ever looked at fact and not settled for the incredible BS the orange thing tosses at you every day?
NATO, is paying as they agreed with President Obama in 2014 about 2 or 2 and half % of GPD. trump told he did that, but he did nothing, the agreement was already made and has been kept..



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Apr 24, 2019 18:10:23   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
Mike, you beliefs are off the wall about Democrats/Liberals

What and who would you say was the first religious/political issue? and when..

Kavanaugh was a sex predator in the same class as the orange pervert you voted for..

But that you think is very fine.. But a Democrat who objects to your hating of a Muslim.. damn that is beyond you ability to accept..

But I will not go after your faith as you seem to wish.. and it seem your faith equals your politics..

Now, in keeping with my self pledge to avoid as much hate speak as I can, think I will wish you a good day, and adios until another day..
Mike, you beliefs are off the wall about Democra... (show quote)


So easy for you to dismiss how morally corrupt The Progressive mob is and I agree, you actually dismiss it completely out of hand and justify your reasons. Progressives can do this because moral relativism/nihilism is a hallmark of the progressive philosophy. You use our constitution against us. All you need to do is call immorality (sin) a "right" and simple minded, amoral, moral relativistic people climb onboard your self destructive train.

You want to know the first issue I remember where the Marxist Progressive philosophy and agenda got a huge substantial gain? I would say it's genesis occurred when they successfully eliminated prayer from schools under the false understanding of separation of church and state. The truth is that the constitution mandates the State to keep their rump scratching fingers out of religion. And let's be clear, the only religion Progressives despise is Christianity. We've now lost generations of our youth because the progressive philosophy says religion is wrong, hedonism is good, hedonism has replaced prayer in school, and hedonism is being taught in our schools under the satanic concept of tolerance. True Christianity is intolerant and inflexible to compromise with sin, therefore, Christianity is intolerable to the Progressive philosophy because progressives tolerate all types of hedonistic behavior. Once progressives removed God from schools, they next went after the sanctity (and value) of human life. Subliminally, SCOTUS gave people the right not to be responsible for their actions and behavior by legalizing abortion. (Compared to abortion, slavery was benevolent!) Material possessions have become more important than sacrificing those possessions for human life. Too many children means fewer material things therefore, make it lawful to kill the child.

OK, Perm, that's a short response to your question.

Typically, you convicted Kavanaugh without a trial and you convict conservatives of hating all Muslims. And I'll bet you pat yourselves on the back for being utterly fair and balanced.

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Apr 24, 2019 19:57:36   #
AHO-C
 
padremike wrote:
So easy for you to dismiss how morally corrupt The Progressive mob is and I agree, you actually dismiss it completely out of hand and justify your reasons. Progressives can do this because moral relativism/nihilism is a hallmark of the progressive philosophy. You use our constitution against us. All you need to do is call immorality (sin) a "right" and simple minded, amoral, moral relativistic people climb onboard your self destructive train.

You want to know the first issue I remember where the Marxist Progressive philosophy and agenda got a huge substantial gain? I would say it's genesis occurred when they successfully eliminated prayer from schools under the false understanding of separation of church and state. The truth is that the constitution mandates the State to keep their rump scratching fingers out of religion. And let's be clear, the only religion Progressives despise is Christianity. We've now lost generations of our youth because the progressive philosophy says religion is wrong, hedonism is good, hedonism has replaced prayer in school, and hedonism is being taught in our schools under the satanic concept of tolerance. True Christianity is intolerant and inflexible to compromise with sin, therefore, Christianity is intolerable to the Progressive philosophy because progressives tolerate all types of hedonistic behavior. Once progressives removed God from schools, they next went after the sanctity (and value) of human life. Subliminally, SCOTUS gave people the right not to be responsible for their actions and behavior by legalizing abortion. (Compared to abortion, slavery was benevolent!) Material possessions have become more important than sacrificing those possessions for human life. Too many children means fewer material things therefore, make it lawful to kill the child.

OK, Perm, that's a short response to your question.

Typically, you convicted Kavanaugh without a trial and you convict conservatives of hating all Muslims. And I'll bet you pat yourselves on the back for being utterly fair and balanced.
So easy for you to dismiss how morally corrupt The... (show quote)


Dang!! Great Post Fr. Mike !!! you are hitting on all cylinders...not only hitting the ball out of the park but hitting the Abe Stark sign ( a target in old Ebbets Field....RF to be exact !!) before it bounces impossibly high over the fence onto Bedford Ave....and I represent the Bronx....I think the Bronx is in Westchester Co..... I like Perm, but while he says we drink the Kool Aid as Conservatives ....he is literally reciting quotes and attaching Leftytoons to taunt us!!!
However, based on his temperament that I can glean from this site, he would be one of the first on the Left to hate the Marxist system he pined for so hard and long.

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Apr 24, 2019 20:04:31   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
AHO-C wrote:
Dang!! Great Post Fr. Mike !!! you are hitting on all cylinders...not only hitting the ball out of the park but hitting the Abe Stark sign ( a target in old Ebbets Field....RF to be exact !!) before it bounces impossibly high over the fence onto Bedford Ave....and I represent the Bronx....I think the Bronx is in Westchester Co..... I like Perm, but while he says we drink the Kool Aid as Conservatives ....he is literally reciting quotes and attaching Leftytoons to taunt us!!!
However, based on his temperament that I can glean from this site, he would be one of the first on the Left to hate the Marxist system he pined for so hard and long.
Dang!! Great Post Fr. Mike !!! you are hitting on ... (show quote)


I agree. He seems to be a good man so it's confusing how he's so attached to the Progressive philosophy.

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