JoyV

Have you read what has been released? If not, how can you complain that you can't read all of it because Mueller and the FBI redacted sensitive portions of it?

I haven't done more than make a large dent in the 500 pages released. I could read a 500 page novel in a few days. I could read a 500 page genetics study in not much longer as I am familiar with the subject and terms. But this takes more time to really digest the official legal language than when reading a novel or science study.

markc Loc: Tennessee

If you don’t understand the report then why have you been replying with admitted prejudice to the comments here like you are an authority?

debeda

She didn't say she didn't understand, she said it was taking longer for her to digest.

markc Loc: Tennessee

There are a lot of one liners there but I regress as I thought it more of a euphemism for the end result of digestion of fibrous nutrition.

debeda

Ahhh. You're stuck on cow farts

JoyV

What makes you say I don't understand it. Just because I haven't read all 500 pages yet, does not mean I don't understand the portions I have read. Far more so than those who think that the report can say there was no evidence of collusion found, yet still think the report reveals collusion because some people spoke with Russians either in the course of their jobs or years before the campaign.

During the introduction to volume I, the report states it would not be using the word collusion but would use conspiracy and coordination instead.

I quote from the 13th page; "the investigation did not establish that the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

The next several paragraphs outline the numerous attempt made by Russia agents to meet with Trump or his campaign. All attempts were unsuccessful until the meeting with Trump Jr under false pretenses. This meeting was abruptly halted when Trump Jr realized the nature of the meeting and walked out.

A couple of interesting points were raised which I find very curious. There is a motive given for Russia preferring Trump over Hillary because though Trump MIGHT agree to continue a back door agreement regarding Ukraine made with Obama through Hillary. So the implication is that the chance that Trump would do what Hillary and Obama already did was enough for them ti prefer him even though they KNEW they would keep the deal if Hillary won.

The other interesting point is that it is taken as a given in the report that Russia hacked the DNC computers, yet the computers were never evaluated.

A big deal is made of the fact that Russia called to congratulate Trump on winning the election. This is a normal occurrence which leaders of nations frequently do. No big deal was made of the other world leaders who called to congratulate him.

The report points out that Flynn made a call to a Russian official asking them to refrain fro escalating a touchy situation. This was Flynn's job! No promises were made or implied. Simply a request to not escalate.

Much is made of the social media campaign to harm Clinton, yet it is virtually ignored that there was also a campaign to harm Trump. I myself saw far more anti-Trump posts on facebook than anti-Clinton ones. And the initial FBI report stated these were an attempt to sow discord, not to help either candidate over the other. (yes I read it)

The report states Trump fired Comey while Comey was investigating him. Yet the report neglects to state that Comey specifically told Trump on 2 occasions that he was NOT being investigated. Comey admitted to telling Trump so. So if Trump believed he was not under investigation, why would he try to halt the investigation by firing the one heading up the investigation.

The report outlines its charging decisions based on what constitutes a crime. No crime was found regarding Trump or the campaign.

On the 20th page, it goes into some detail on Papadopoulos. From what they report, if Papadopoulos was attempting to collude, he was the most inept bungler since inspector Clouseau.

More than 20 some pages involving the Russian social media interference is heavily redacted.

On the 42nd page it reveals that the IRA sent false anti-Clinton information including the lie that Clinton had mishandled classified information and that there was voter fraud going on. Both these things which the report labels as lies turned out to be true.

The report takes it as a fact that the DNC computers were hacked by Russia (GRU) and refers to an FBI report which I read when it was released. It never said the GRU hacked the DNC computers, but that they had been found to attempt to hack government computer systems and COULD have hacked the DNC computers. But since the DNC refused the FBI or any other American intelligence agency access to the computers, no one really knows what happened.

I will stop here though I read through far more.

So how much of the report have you read?

JoyV

Also, I admit I haven't looked up every law code referenced. There are several dozens referenced.

badbobby Loc: texas

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

bahmer

Interesting thanks for the input.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Baylor, of course, is located in Waco, Texas. I not only grew up in Waco, but retired to Lake Whitney, just northwest of the city. It was big news locally, due to his role in his investigation of President Clinton.

Nickolai

Some would say the stupid people are the Trump voters. I'm looking at $4.70 gasoline because Trumpty Dumptys fetish of over turning all things Obama, shit canning the agreement with Iran and slapping sanctions on Iran

Nickolai

nwtk2007 Loc: Texas

How are those two things related?

markc Loc: Tennessee

We may get some relief from the Saudi prince since this president is letting them slide after the khashoggi assassination. They may ramp up production.