Terrorist arrested on southern border (Page 5): Crossing the border illegally is a felony. AS for waiting until they do another felony, ask my neighbor about that. You'll need to bring...

JoyV

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Citizens can not detain someone for what they MAY ... (show quote)

Crossing the border illegally is a felony. AS for waiting until they do another felony, ask my neighbor about that. You'll need to bring a shovel and talk real loud. He's been 6 feet under ground since he stopped to help some illegals without being armed himself, and doesn't hear or talk to good!

JoyV

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Not unsubstantiated, I have met a fair group of so called militia men and most if not all are complete whack jobs, many of whom claim sovereign statehood, several of which also on the dole. How whacked out can one get to claim sovereign statehood while collecting social security disability?

Never heard of a state named Militia. When did it join the union?

JoyV

Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Not unsubstantiated, I have met a fair group of so called militia men and most if not all are complete whack jobs, many of whom claim sovereign statehood, several of which also on the dole. How whacked out can one get to claim sovereign statehood while collecting social security disability?

I have met several Minutemen militia helping at our border. They've saved hundreds of lives of illegals who were stranded in the desert. And who knows how many American lives were saved by their help in getting them detained by CBP. A nicer bunch of compassionate men you'd never hope to see.

teabag09

The Critical Critic wrote:

Deer Lord! Another one willing to aid and abet criminals rather than supporting his fellow citizens. What a disgrace!

Did you forget the oath you took?

He's in Minnesota and his brain hasn't thawed out yet and when it does he'll get even more bent. I usually skip over his, Kevy's, Lobo, Woody's, etc. and read the other's comments as that tells me all I need to know. Mike

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Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Obviously you have no clue what the "sovereign state" movement is, I am guessing you don't know ANY militia men then as many of them nut jobs also tend to be "sovereign staters" as well.

Then my misunderstanding, but that wasn’t exactly how you framed your original statement. Had you said they were part of the “movement” I would have understood a little better what you were saying. But you’re right, I’m not deeply knowledgeable about this “movement” I read about it years ago and just dismissed it as a fringe group, not giving it much attention. Statehood is just another term for citizenship, and as each individual US citizen is sovereign I didn’t put it together that you were talking about the “movement”. Again, my misunderstanding.

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Yes, that’s about the extent of my knowledge concerning the movement. Never gave it much consideration.

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I mis-spoke, the movement seems to call themselves "sovereign citizens", whatever, many so called militia men also claim sovereignty as well.

Thank you for clarifying, though even had you used this term, I probably would have still misunderstood where you were coming from.

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Interestingly enough, those I met didn't seem to have anything against money but then maybe they aren't "kosher sovereign citizens".

Just to be clear, I wasn’t calling you a liar, I have no way of disproving your experience. I was simply objecting to lumping all militia members as whacko nut-jobs. True there are some, no different than any other group memberships, people are individuals and everyone is different.

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How many Jewish folk do you know that will eat a bacon cheeseburger which is a double no-no as it has bacon (made from pork) and the ground beef isn't kosher either at any restaurant that I know of. For ground beef to be "kosher" it can only be taken from the front portion of the cow, nothing from the hip back.

Okay.

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Anyway you look at it, of the so called militia men I have met, I wouldn't consider a one of them fully sane and I really don't care what you think you have to say about whether you believe I know any or not, I really don't care about your opinion at all if you truly want honesty.

Okay. And yes, I always prefer honesty.

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I actually knew some of them BEFORE they joined and BEFORE they joined, they seemed a lot more "sane". I think it has to do with all the nut jobs in the groups that corrupt the minds of the newcomers. A good reason for me to avoid joining them as they have tried to get me to do in the past.

Ok, fair enough. But my position still remains, that these citizens are not doing anything that is unlawful.

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Carol Kelly wrote:

I love your manner of taking apart posts that have no real meaning. I almost said “stupid” but that’s worse than cursing.

Thank you Carol, I appreciate that.

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JoyV wrote:

It use to be a misdemeanor in the Obama years. That was changed to a felony. And even before the change, anyone who had previously been deported and came back was committing a felony even in the Obama years.

I was going by the Immigration and Nationalities Act of ‘65. Which still refers to it as a misdemeanor. Is there a more recent act that changed it to a felony?

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teabag09 wrote:

He's in Minnesota and his brain hasn't thawed out yet and when it does he'll get even more bent. I usually skip over his, Kevy's, Lobo, Woody's, etc. and read the other's comments as that tells me all I need to know. Mike

Lol, thanks Mike. Not sure who Lobo is, but I’m sure I’ll find out soon enough.

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The Critical Critic wrote:

Lol, thanks Mike. Not sure who Lobo is, but I’m sure I’ll find out soon enough.

You haven't encountered our good friend Lonewolf yet...

Only a matter of time...

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Canuckus Deploracus wrote:

You haven't encountered our good friend Lonewolf yet...

Only a matter of time...

Ohhhhh, ok. I didn’t put the nickname together, thank you CD.

Common_Sense_Matters

The Critical Critic wrote:

Lol, thanks Mike. Not sure who Lobo is, but I’m sure I’ll find out soon enough.

Might be meaning lonewolf.

Edit: Should have finished reading as it looks as though CD said it first.

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Common_Sense_Matters wrote:

Might be meaning lonewolf.

Edit: Should have finished reading as it looks as though CD said it first.

Thanks anyway, CSM. It seems I have to do some more reading around here, feels like I’m the only one out of loop.

JoyV

The Critical Critic wrote:

I was going by the Immigration and Nationalities Act of ‘65. Which still refers to it as a misdemeanor. Is there a more recent act that changed it to a felony?

I think its called the Zero Tolerance policy instituted by Sessions.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-announces-zero-tolerance-policy-criminal-illegal-entry
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1049751/download

But there is also a bill in congress called the Zero Tolerance Act which would make all illegal entries felonies by legislation instead of by order.

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The Critical Critic wrote:

Ohhhhh, ok. I didn’t put the nickname together, thank you CD.

For the record... I quite enjoy the majority of Permi's posts... And I appreciate that he tries to keep it light with his memes...

I think it is a shame how these brave men are being portrayed though... I am astounded by their professionalism... A Chinese militia (will never happen) or the regular military would not have been anywhere near as composed... Invaders a not Looked upon favorably in this neck of the woods

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JoyV wrote:

I think its called the Zero Tolerance policy instituted by Sessions.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-announces-zero-tolerance-policy-criminal-illegal-entry
https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1049751/download

But there is also a bill in congress called the Zero Tolerance Act which would make all illegal entries felonies by legislation instead of by order.

Thank you for this, Joy. I’m going to save the links for my bedtime read.