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Apr 10, 2019 03:31:55   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Ooo rah! Lara is brilliant. I was cheering every word she spoke.

Ferrous says that the democratic party is a single party system and I guess by default he thinks the Republican party embraces ideologies of all kinds. So other than conservatism what ideology do you guys embrace?

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Apr 10, 2019 03:37:51   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
debeda wrote:
I saw Ms Logan on the podcast with the former navy SEAL. So happy to see her message is getting increasing attention. She's so articulate and informed!


Yes, Moderate people that want the choice of deciding for themselves are leaving the Democrat Party and trying to find a place in this Political Climate.

A Movement found by Brandon Straka "#WalkAway" is another example of the Democrat Party saying that they want no different opinion than their own.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/07/02/democrats-leaving-the-party-in-droves-as-walkaway-campaign-gains-real-momentum-650543

A history lesson shows us what happen when this type of Ideology takes root...

[" The breakup of the Bolsheviks...

A main source of the factions could be directly attributed to Lenin's steadfast opinion and what was described by Plekhanov as his inability to "bear opinions which were contrary to his own". It was obvious at early stages in Lenin's revolutionary practices that he would not be willing to concede on any party policy that conflicted with his own predetermined ideas. It was the loyalty that he had to his own self-envisioned utopia that caused the party split. Lenin was seen even by fellow party members as being so narrow-minded that he believed that anyone who didn't follow him was his enemy. Leon Trotsky, one of Lenin's fellow revolutionaries (though they had differing views as to how the revolution and party should be handled), compared Lenin in 1904 to the French revolutionary Maximilien Robespierre. Lenin's view of politics as verbal and ideological warfare and his inability to accept criticism even if it came from his own dedicated followers was the reason behind this accusation.

The root of the split was a book titled "What Is To Be Done?" that Lenin wrote while serving a sentence of exile. In Germany, the book was published in 1902. In Russia, strict censorship outlawed its publication and distribution. One of the main points of Lenin's writing was that a revolution can only be achieved by the strong leadership of one person (or of a very select few people) over the masses. After the proposed revolution had successfully overthrown the government, this individual leader must release power to allow socialism to fully encompass the nation. Lenin also wrote that revolutionary leaders must dedicate their entire lives to the cause in order for it to be successful. Lenin said that if professional revolutionaries did not maintain control over the workers, then they would lose sight of the party's objective and adopt opposing beliefs, even abandon the revolution entirely. Lenin's view of a socialist intelligentsia showed that he was not a complete supporter of Marxist theory, which also created some party unrest. For example, Lenin agreed with the Marxist idea of eliminating social classes, but in his utopian society there would still be visible distinctions between those in politics and the common worker."]

In other words, Bolsheviks (Socialists) wanted a ruling Party to control everything. No Middle class, the Elite Ruling their minions... and using the Main Stream Media to spew their Propaganda.

George Santayana (1863-1952), who, in his Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1, wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The original quote was Edmund Burke (1729-1797) statement, "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."

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Apr 10, 2019 03:47:12   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
PeterS wrote:
Ferrous says that the democratic party is a single party system and I guess by default he thinks the Republican party embraces ideologies of all kinds. So other than conservatism what ideology do you guys embrace?


Never said that... You premise that "by default" only leaves one option. I am not a Republican, choosing Independent as my Party affiliation. Voting Republican is the best of options to stop the Democrats rush to seize Control and not throwing my vote away by opting for a non electable 3rd Party candidate... at least until Moderates rise to a viable party able to elect candidates.

The Democrat Party is not allowing any opposing thought... just like Lenin had in mind for his Socialist Revolution.

The Democrat Party is leaving us Moderates behind in their head long rush to their form of Socialism.

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Apr 10, 2019 08:52:24   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
PeterS wrote:
Social Security is socialism as is Medicare and I have yet to see a conservative turn them down.


Do we have a choice?

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Apr 10, 2019 09:57:14   #
debeda
 
Ferrous wrote:
Yes, Moderate people that want the choice of deciding for themselves are leaving the Democrat Party and trying to find a place in this Political Climate.

A Movement found by Brandon Straka "#WalkAway" is another example of the Democrat Party saying that they want no different opinion than their own.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/07/02/democrats-leaving-the-party-in-droves-as-walkaway-campaign-gains-real-momentum-650543

A history lesson shows us what happen when this type of Ideology takes root...

[" The breakup of the Bolsheviks...

A main source of the factions could be directly attributed to Lenin's steadfast opinion and what was described by Plekhanov as his inability to "bear opinions which were contrary to his own". It was obvious at early stages in Lenin's revolutionary practices that he would not be willing to concede on any party policy that conflicted with his own predetermined ideas. It was the loyalty that he had to his own self-envisioned utopia that caused the party split. Lenin was seen even by fellow party members as being so narrow-minded that he believed that anyone who didn't follow him was his enemy. Leon Trotsky, one of Lenin's fellow revolutionaries (though they had differing views as to how the revolution and party should be handled), compared Lenin in 1904 to the French revolutionary Maximilien Robespierre. Lenin's view of politics as verbal and ideological warfare and his inability to accept criticism even if it came from his own dedicated followers was the reason behind this accusation.

The root of the split was a book titled "What Is To Be Done?" that Lenin wrote while serving a sentence of exile. In Germany, the book was published in 1902. In Russia, strict censorship outlawed its publication and distribution. One of the main points of Lenin's writing was that a revolution can only be achieved by the strong leadership of one person (or of a very select few people) over the masses. After the proposed revolution had successfully overthrown the government, this individual leader must release power to allow socialism to fully encompass the nation. Lenin also wrote that revolutionary leaders must dedicate their entire lives to the cause in order for it to be successful. Lenin said that if professional revolutionaries did not maintain control over the workers, then they would lose sight of the party's objective and adopt opposing beliefs, even abandon the revolution entirely. Lenin's view of a socialist intelligentsia showed that he was not a complete supporter of Marxist theory, which also created some party unrest. For example, Lenin agreed with the Marxist idea of eliminating social classes, but in his utopian society there would still be visible distinctions between those in politics and the common worker."]

In other words, Bolsheviks (Socialists) wanted a ruling Party to control everything. No Middle class, the Elite Ruling their minions... and using the Main Stream Media to spew their Propaganda.

George Santayana (1863-1952), who, in his Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1, wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The original quote was Edmund Burke (1729-1797) statement, "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Yes, Moderate people that want the choice of decid... (show quote)


EXCELLENT post and info, thanks for taking the time!

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Apr 10, 2019 11:37:49   #
Wonttakeitanymore
 
PeterS wrote:
Look, most conservatives embrace socialism too so it can't be all that bad can it?


BUllcrap! Most conservatives believe in working for what you get!

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Apr 10, 2019 12:36:06   #
debeda
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
BUllcrap! Most conservatives believe in working for what you get!


Not only working for what you get, but keeping what you work for

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Apr 10, 2019 12:39:45   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
Wonttakeitanymore wrote:
BUllcrap! Most conservatives believe in working for what you get!


Yes, Just like Social Security... We worked to pay for our Social Security. Every paycheck we earned, 15.3% was paid into the Federal Insurance Contributions Act... Half paid into by us and half paid into by our employer.

How is Social Security like Socialism?

So far, these brainwashed drones have commented on everything but the original story... The story being "The Democrat Party wants total Control and the Main Stream Media is their Propaganda Machine.

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Apr 10, 2019 12:42:14   #
debeda
 
Ferrous wrote:
Yes, Just like Social Security... We worked to pay for our Social Security. Every paycheck we earned, 15.3% was paid into the Federal Insurance Contributions Act... Half paid into by us and half paid into by our employer.

How is Social Security like Socialism?

So far, these brainwashed drones have commented on everything but the original story... The story being "The Democrat Party wants total Control and the Main Stream Media is their Propaganda Machine.


Perfectly said, Ferrous!! AGREED

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Apr 10, 2019 17:37:27   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
PeterS wrote:
Ferrous says that the democratic party is a single party system and I guess by default he thinks the Republican party embraces ideologies of all kinds. So other than conservatism what ideology do you guys embrace?


Nope...the Party is fkd, just like the DNC. Any more questions?

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Apr 10, 2019 17:39:31   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
padremike wrote:
I was joking. I just forgot to add a smile.

The OT is quite ribald in places. You can be certain Jewish men sitting around a campfire at night slapped one another on the back laughing about Abraham, at his very advanced age, was able to father a child.


I know you know...couldn't resist the opportunity to encourage folks to try to find out what I was talking about is all. We take 'em where we get 'em.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:40:37   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Ferrous wrote:
Yes, Moderate people that want the choice of deciding for themselves are leaving the Democrat Party and trying to find a place in this Political Climate.

A Movement found by Brandon Straka "#WalkAway" is another example of the Democrat Party saying that they want no different opinion than their own.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/07/02/democrats-leaving-the-party-in-droves-as-walkaway-campaign-gains-real-momentum-650543

A history lesson shows us what happen when this type of Ideology takes root...

" The breakup of the Bolsheviks...

A main source of the factions could be directly attributed to Lenin's steadfast opinion and what was described by Plekhanov as his inability to "bear opinions which were contrary to his own". It was obvious at early stages in Lenin's revolutionary practices that he would not be willing to concede on any party policy that conflicted with his own predetermined ideas. It was the loyalty that he had to his own self-envisioned utopia that caused the party split. Lenin was seen even by fellow party members as being so narrow-minded that he believed that anyone who didn't follow him was his enemy. Leon Trotsky, one of Lenin's fellow revolutionaries (though they had differing views as to how the revolution and party should be handled), compared Lenin in 1904 to the French revolutionary Maximilien Robespierre. Lenin's view of politics as verbal and ideological warfare and his inability to accept criticism even if it came from his own dedicated followers was the reason behind this accusation.

The root of the split was a book titled "What Is To Be Done?" that Lenin wrote while serving a sentence of exile. In Germany, the book was published in 1902. In Russia, strict censorship outlawed its publication and distribution. One of the main points of Lenin's writing was that a revolution can only be achieved by the strong leadership of one person (or of a very select few people) over the masses. After the proposed revolution had successfully overthrown the government, this individual leader must release power to allow socialism to fully encompass the nation. Lenin also wrote that revolutionary leaders must dedicate their entire lives to the cause in order for it to be successful. Lenin said that if professional revolutionaries did not maintain control over the workers, then they would lose sight of the party's objective and adopt opposing beliefs, even abandon the revolution entirely. Lenin's view of a socialist intelligentsia showed that he was not a complete supporter of Marxist theory, which also created some party unrest. For example, Lenin agreed with the Marxist idea of eliminating social classes, but in his utopian society there would still be visible distinctions between those in politics and the common worker."]

In other words, Bolsheviks (Socialists) wanted a ruling Party to control everything. No Middle class, the Elite Ruling their minions... and using the Main Stream Media to spew their Propaganda.

George Santayana (1863-1952), who, in his Reason in Common Sense, The Life of Reason, Vol.1, wrote "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."

The original quote was Edmund Burke (1729-1797) statement, "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it."
Yes, Moderate people that want the choice of decid... (show quote)


Santayana should be required reading.

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Apr 10, 2019 17:41:50   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Ferrous wrote:
Never said that... You premise that "by default" only leaves one option. I am not a Republican, choosing Independent as my Party affiliation. Voting Republican is the best of options to stop the Democrats rush to seize Control and not throwing my vote away by opting for a non electable 3rd Party candidate... at least until Moderates rise to a viable party able to elect candidates.

The Democrat Party is not allowing any opposing thought... just like Lenin had in mind for his Socialist Revolution.

The Democrat Party is leaving us Moderates behind in their head long rush to their form of Socialism.
Never said that... You premise that "by defau... (show quote)


Typical lib tactic...either/or. Ain't workin ' no more. Too bad, so sad.

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Apr 10, 2019 20:08:29   #
Ferrous Loc: Pacific North Coast, CA
 
BigMike wrote:
Typical lib tactic...either/or. Ain't workin ' no more. Too bad, so sad.


Yep... Same old tired argument...

Rule #11 of Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals:

RULE 11: “The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.”
Never let the enemy score points because you’re caught without a solution to the problem.

Again, brain-dead Drones spewing their talking points.

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Apr 11, 2019 00:06:03   #
buddy42 Loc: Bonita Springs, Fl
 
Ferrous wrote:
Lara Login's interview with Mark Levin explains it so well. The Democrat Party has left all Moderate Democrats and have totally embraced their version of Socialism.

Only die-hard leftists and brainwashed Drones can still be a part of the Democratic Party.

It's us Moderates that are forced to vote Republican so as not to have the Democrat Party from taking total control of our Country.

With the Republican Party, there is still a choice... With the Democrats, all must totally follow Party Line or be defeated in the next Primary.

Lara explains how the Main Stream Media is in Bed with the Democrat Party

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5xgWGvDMuY
Lara Login's interview with Mark Levin explains it... (show quote)





This YouTube address has been pulled by Fox News as of 11:30 pm 4/10/19.
Any ideas of why?

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