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Actually, lindajoy, there have been 13 presidents who didn’t serve in the military. They are: John Adams, John Quincy Adams, Martin Van Buren, Grover Cleveland, William H. Taft, Woodrow Wilson, Warren G. Harding, Calvin Coolidge, Herbert C. Hoover, Franklin D. Roosevelt, William J. Clinton, Barack H. Obama, and Donald Trump.
As to what you identify as “deferment for schooling,” they were known as “student deferments.” In order to get them, one needed to be of “draft age’ (18 to 26), be enrolled in a tech school or accredited college/university and have a GPA that is considered to be “passing” by the institution.
“Student deferments” were different than physical disqualifications, such as being almost blind, hard of hearing, or having physical deformities. However, there were some people who managed to convince a doctor(s) that they were unable to physically preform military duties by lying about their ailments. Trump comes to mind here. He claimed to have painful bone spurs that would disqualify him from military duty. Of course, those same bone spurs didn’t keep him from playing intermurial sports in college.
Additionally, and regarding the academic aspect of getting and maintaining a student deferment, there have been several comments by former college classmates of Trump’s who claim that he paid others to take his exams for him. Add to that the fact that Trump had his attorney, Michael Cohen, threaten legal action if the schools he attended ever released his transcripts only adds credence to the claims by his former classmates.
Now, why would he not want his transcripts released? According to Trump, he’s the smartest person in the world. No one knows more than he about anything. In fact, according to him, for someone who never spent 1 day in the military, he claims to know more about the military than even the generals. He claims to know more about business than anyone, too. Never mind that he bankrupted several times, leaving hundreds of contractors, sub-contractors and private citizens screwed out of their rightful earnings. His Trump University was forced to close because federal fraud investigations were going to bring charges against him and his underlings.
Finally, Trump has done his dead-level best to make medical care worse for the military and our vets. VA hospitals, as a whole, have some of the worst records for medical care. Now, Trump says he wants to make medical care more accessible to our vets. His solution is to allow vets to go to private health care providers instead of making the VA better. By allowing outside medical providers to care for our vets, he’s allowing higher costs to be charged to the VA without any guarantee of better healthcare.
Now, Trump’s wanting to take money away from military projects the Congress has approved and budgeted for and divert their monies to build his “vanity wall” for his made-up crisis.
What’s my point, you ask? I’m a vet. You figure it out.
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First, Thank You for your service.. Little in exchange for it but meant most sincerely..
I knew other Presidents did not serve the number escaped me when writing.
As for the bone spurs hindering his ability to serve he very well could have problems enough not to be enlisted.. Student deferments just as obtruse, and the fact is those who used that as a reason was no different.. They used it instead of going in to serve, by choice..
Trumps records not disclosed is no different than BO’s records not only not disclosed but many an interviewed person who attended the schools bo claims to have attended had no knowledge of him being there..He certainly had no worthy writings as” that Constitutionist “ he claimed to be either..
Trumps school records don’t matter either as everyone claimed about bo’s..Right???
As for the VA, this one breaks my heart!! Prior Presidents did near to nothing to resolve the many issues and inequity shown to all you vets who served snd then got the finger when you needed medical care.. As far back as the agent orange denials Vets were left to fight while many passed away before the VA finally agreed to treat...
The months waiting to see a Dr. horrendous and no one cared that records were being falsified etc..The only time a president got involved is when the atrociousness of care hit the news.. Then it was appoint yet another sub committee to find out what was wrong and as the news coverage dwindled so did the action of corrective measures.. If we have to pay more for you soldiers to get adequate timely care I don’t give a damn!!! We can send bilions to foreign nations including terrorist countries we can damn sure spend what is needed to help you soldiers!!!!! I donate not near enough time at VA hospitals over the years and know just how hard it is for you to get even a wheelchair that many have waited months on as an example ..
Trump didn’t have to have a news coverage issue make him aware. He took action and changed Heads of depts firing some and said get our men treated. As soon as possible open up public hospital care etc.. He walked into a hornets nest of years of mismanaged dictions and lots of fudging of records..antiquated computer technology and not enough of anything from Drs down to give our soldiers adequate care...I believe him to be working in the interest of our soldiers and he can’t fix over night what has been years of abuse by politically placed idiots that knew nothing about medicine or management..Your complaints of the VA mismanged, poor treatment etc were present years before Trump jumped into it..And what did any of the prior presidents do?? Take friggen tours of different facilities always saying yes, there is a problem, not doing a damn thing but change ranks of the heads of the VA....
Business you say?? Trump has over 500 businesses and yes there have been bankruptcies, five out 500 is nothing... Not pay his debts is mo more than recitation of the lying media if you ever went checking them out...
As for the wall, Pentagon would fight using funding if they truly needed that money.. the better answer is Congress approved funding to Reagan, Clinton And Bo yet for Trump its not needed why is that ??? Invasion is a serious threat yet the dems deny there is even a border issue?? WTH???