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Is hate necessary to disaprove of a person's words, actions, and character?
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Mar 21, 2019 23:26:15   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
IrreverentOne75 wrote:
It's interesting that you call for others to present factual, verifiable reports of incidents of immoral or illegal actions when they call for Democrats to be held responsible for their actions. Yet you, in this rambling, pretentious manifest, have done exactly what you claim they do . You cite absolutely no actions taken by our current President that you have deemed to be confirmed lies, misdeeds and questionable policies. You go on to pontificate about what you call Twitter rants that somehow, according to your opinion, convict him of low character. It is, in fact, the duty of all Americans to maintain, strengthen and enhance this great nation and President Trump is doing that while fighting the Progressives in Congress on a daily basis. I hereby challenge you, rumitoid, to post factual, verifiable proof of your claims.
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100%
Ta-Daa!

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Mar 21, 2019 23:29:18   #
debeda
 
rumitoid wrote:
I have a daughter and most of us have children. If they lied, acted like a bully, or did not stand up for a friend in trouble, what do we do? Hate them to make or help them change? No. We lovingly show how what they did is wrong, how their behavior actually hurts themselves and often others. We do not ignore what they did. We do not excuse it. We do not cuddle them. We confront and resolve these issues.

A public figure is somewhat different, especially one holding the highest office in our nation and the image of the Free World; an appointed model for our country's values, principles, ideals, and laws, never mind for the future of Democracy on the planet. Such a person is to rightfully be held to a higher standard. Failing to do so is failing this Republic and worldwide hopes of liberty. Any patriot, anyone who really loves America, is duty bound to hold the president to this higher standard (or some standard of decency) and demand accountability.

Many on the Right calls this true patriotism just the act of "haters" and dismisses it, blindly attacks it. How do they possibly excuse their duty to country to maintain, strengthen, and enhance this great nation by refusing, deflecting, and ignoring to challenge the president's confirmed lies and misdeeds and questionable policies, his mad Twitter rants that convict him of low character, and continue to think that they are true Americans?
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Honestly, I am appalled by all the hatred, vitriol, censure of those of differing opinions, vile language and incitement coming more and more frequently from so many of our elected officials.

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Mar 21, 2019 23:35:49   #
Michael Rich Loc: Lapine Oregon
 
IrreverentOne75 wrote:
It's interesting that you call for others to present factual, verifiable reports of incidents of immoral or illegal actions when they call for Democrats to be held responsible for their actions. Yet you, in this rambling, pretentious manifest, have done exactly what you claim they do . You cite absolutely no actions taken by our current President that you have deemed to be confirmed lies, misdeeds and questionable policies. You go on to pontificate about what you call Twitter rants that somehow, according to your opinion, convict him of low character. It is, in fact, the duty of all Americans to maintain, strengthen and enhance this great nation and President Trump is doing that while fighting the Progressives in Congress on a daily basis. I hereby challenge you, rumitoid, to post factual, verifiable proof of your claims.
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Exactly!

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Mar 21, 2019 23:37:10   #
steve66613
 
debeda wrote:
Honestly, I am appalled by all the hatred, vitriol, censure of those of differing opinions, vile language and incitement coming more and more frequently from so many of our elected officials.


You have a point! Like, when a Representative says the POTUS “isn’t human”.
Guess that would be expected of a CAIR puppet.

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Mar 22, 2019 00:01:46   #
debeda
 
steve66613 wrote:
You have a point! Like, when a Representative says the POTUS “isn’t human”.
Guess that would be expected of a CAIR puppet.


Yes. Or when Maxine waters incites people, or the new congresswoman calls our President an M-effer, or when an entire side of the aisle viciously attacked a supreme court candidate. Gotta say, there are few in Congress that are for their own constituents. I would say 2 are joe Manchin and jim Jordan.

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Mar 22, 2019 01:43:24   #
rumitoid
 
IrreverentOne75 wrote:
It's interesting that you call for others to present factual, verifiable reports of incidents of immoral or illegal actions when they call for Democrats to be held responsible for their actions. Yet you, in this rambling, pretentious manifest, have done exactly what you claim they do . You cite absolutely no actions taken by our current President that you have deemed to be confirmed lies, misdeeds and questionable policies. You go on to pontificate about what you call Twitter rants that somehow, according to your opinion, convict him of low character. It is, in fact, the duty of all Americans to maintain, strengthen and enhance this great nation and President Trump is doing that while fighting the Progressives in Congress on a daily basis. I hereby challenge you, rumitoid, to post factual, verifiable proof of your claims.
It's interesting that you call for others to prese... (show quote)


You need to pay better attention. This an opinion piece about hate. I am not making a case about anything more than the need to hold the president to his appointed role and image. The president's words and deeds are a matter of public record, his lies clear on a few hundred video taped and tweets. No debate or question. Read them and get back to me.

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Mar 22, 2019 01:44:44   #
rumitoid
 
IrreverentOne75 wrote:
It can be very difficult to use facts in dealing with people such as yourself who rely entirely on their feelings. I have to wonder why it is that people on the left cannot admit that the country is in better shape today than it has been in years. Lowest unemployment rates across the board, more people in the work force, productivity rate rising, and lower taxes. What do you expect?


I feel for you.

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Mar 22, 2019 01:45:55   #
rumitoid
 
steve66613 wrote:
Thank you for saving a half hour, or so, for me to explain how BHO lied....when and how often. Geez! How many times does this cliche have to be re-hashed?


Who explained how BHO lied? Interested.

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Mar 22, 2019 02:10:14   #
emarine
 
rumitoid wrote:
Who explained how BHO lied? Interested.



Trump supporters play tit for tat with the short comings of past administrations to try & justify Trumps outright lies... this just divides this country...It is the Presidents responsibility to unite not divide... in all reality its not hate... that's a poor excuse for failure to properly do his job to unite this country ...

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Mar 22, 2019 02:23:54   #
woodguru
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Your post is straight from Alinsky's of means and ends number 10. You wrap your true intentions of hating Trump in moral arguments to make it sound good.


Liberty... did you hate Obama? I get the impression you didn't like him

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Mar 22, 2019 04:24:52   #
Kevyn
 
rumitoid wrote:
I have a daughter and most of us have children. If they lied, acted like a bully, or did not stand up for a friend in trouble, what do we do? Hate them to make or help them change? No. We lovingly show how what they did is wrong, how their behavior actually hurts themselves and often others. We do not ignore what they did. We do not excuse it. We do not cuddle them. We confront and resolve these issues.

A public figure is somewhat different, especially one holding the highest office in our nation and the image of the Free World; an appointed model for our country's values, principles, ideals, and laws, never mind for the future of Democracy on the planet. Such a person is to rightfully be held to a higher standard. Failing to do so is failing this Republic and worldwide hopes of liberty. Any patriot, anyone who really loves America, is duty bound to hold the president to this higher standard (or some standard of decency) and demand accountability.

Many on the Right calls this true patriotism just the act of "haters" and dismisses it, blindly attacks it. How do they possibly excuse their duty to country to maintain, strengthen, and enhance this great nation by refusing, deflecting, and ignoring to challenge the president's confirmed lies and misdeeds and questionable policies, his mad Twitter rants that convict him of low character, and continue to think that they are true Americans?
I have a daughter and most of us have children. If... (show quote)


We have a lying criminal buffoon acting as president, anyone in their right mind recognizes this fact and wants him held accountable and removed from office. That aside, the world suffers from lots of lying criminal buffoons, there is no hate in recognizing and avoiding them, calling them out for their lies, and holding them accountable for their crimes. The fact that they don’t like it is irrelevant.

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Mar 22, 2019 04:57:32   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Kevyn wrote:
We have a lying criminal buffoon acting as president, anyone in their right mind recognizes this fact and wants him held accountable and removed from office. That aside, the world suffers from lots of lying criminal buffoons, there is no hate in recognizing and avoiding them, calling them out for their lies, and holding them accountable for their crimes. The fact that they don’t like it is irrelevant.


Who are some of the other 'lying criminal baffoons'?

I am interested in your view...

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Mar 22, 2019 05:07:15   #
Kevyn
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Who are some of the other 'lying criminal baffoons'?

I am interested in your view...


Rodrigo Duterte In the Philippines and Kim Jong un in North Korea are a couple of good examples but I was speaking more generally of the people we encounter on a day to day basis like crooked used car salesmen, petty drug dealers, ambulance chasing lawyers, carnival barkers and flim flam artists.

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Mar 22, 2019 05:09:20   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
Kevyn wrote:
Rodrigo Duterte In the Philippines and Kim Jong un in North Korea are a couple of good examples but I was speaking more generally of the people we encounter on a day to day basis like crooked used car salesmen, petty drug dealers, ambulance chasing lawyers, carnival barkers and flim flam artists.


I like Duterte's stance on drugs...

Not a fan of Kim...

The rest I can't argue with....

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Mar 22, 2019 07:04:04   #
Rose42
 
emarine wrote:
Trump supporters play tit for tat with the short comings of past administrations to try & justify Trumps outright lies... this just divides this country...It is the Presidents responsibility to unite not divide... in all reality its not hate... that's a poor excuse for failure to properly do his job to unite this country ...


Some of them do yes. At the same time democrats have given a pass to some of the things Obama has done - like his fight with the press.

This divide is a two way street. What is the solution? Each side says the other is anti-American and traitors. Many get caught up in that madness. Our elected officials know whats going on and do nothing but contribute to that mentality. No one is stepping up from the democrats or republicans. I don’t see any signs that this will change.

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