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Mar 16, 2019 10:23:55   #
vernon
 
PeterS wrote:
For now...


for 6 more years.

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Mar 16, 2019 10:26:12   #
vernon
 
rumitoid wrote:
The real enemy to the Right is Political Correctness. Why?

Trump tweeting an anti-Semitic Internet meme depicting a Star of David atop a pile of cash in 2016. Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said any objections or criticism was just “political correctness run amok.” The origins of that meme were discovered to be a message board of neo-Nazis and white supremacists who presumably agree with Lewandowski. After all, they titled their message board, “Politically Incorrect.”

Political correctness has been a whipping boy of the right wing for decades, and Trump is cracking the whip with abandon. He told a group of evangelical leaders that they shouldn’t pray for President Obama because “We can’t be… politically correct and say we pray for all of our leaders, because all of your leaders are selling Christianity down the tubes.” (Just an aside: who better to pray for?)

Remember his response to Fox host Megyn Kelly when she asked him about his temperament after calling some women “dogs” and “fat pigs”? It was: “I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct.” After being skewered by all sides for racist comments about a Hispanic federal judge hearing a case he was involved in, “We have to stop being so politically correct in this country.” He is saying we can freely be racist and misogynist.

Outright xenophobic, Islamophobic, racist, and anti-gay rhetoric is encouraged as being just forthright, exalted as a breathe of fresh air by the GOP, not pandering to lily-liveried Liberals so concerned about people's feelings and the effects of words. Sticks and stones may break our bones...but words are far, far worse. Ask anyone alive what cut them to the core and damaged them most, more than any physical harm, were harsh words spoken by a loved one or authority figure.

Apparently, no more need for politicians to speak in too much coded language, designed to cloak their true positions and to avoid offending everyone. Dog-whistles are passe. Say it like it is. Or, call a spade a spade. Make an "open and coarse appeal to the passions of the populace; habitually abandon the principles of political science to assail the characters of individuals.” Now a principle of the Right.
The real enemy to the Right is Political Correctne... (show quote)


political correctness is the way the lefties try to control speech. and it is working.

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Mar 16, 2019 12:03:44   #
Weasel Loc: In the Great State Of Indiana!!
 
rumitoid wrote:
The real enemy to the Right is Political Correctness. Why?

Trump tweeting an anti-Semitic Internet meme depicting a Star of David atop a pile of cash in 2016. Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said any objections or criticism was just “political correctness run amok.” The origins of that meme were discovered to be a message board of neo-Nazis and white supremacists who presumably agree with Lewandowski. After all, they titled their message board, “Politically Incorrect.”

Political correctness has been a whipping boy of the right wing for decades, and Trump is cracking the whip with abandon. He told a group of evangelical leaders that they shouldn’t pray for President Obama because “We can’t be… politically correct and say we pray for all of our leaders, because all of your leaders are selling Christianity down the tubes.” (Just an aside: who better to pray for?)

Remember his response to Fox host Megyn Kelly when she asked him about his temperament after calling some women “dogs” and “fat pigs”? It was: “I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct.” After being skewered by all sides for racist comments about a Hispanic federal judge hearing a case he was involved in, “We have to stop being so politically correct in this country.” He is saying we can freely be racist and misogynist.

Outright xenophobic, Islamophobic, racist, and anti-gay rhetoric is encouraged as being just forthright, exalted as a breathe of fresh air by the GOP, not pandering to lily-liveried Liberals so concerned about people's feelings and the effects of words. Sticks and stones may break our bones...but words are far, far worse. Ask anyone alive what cut them to the core and damaged them most, more than any physical harm, were harsh words spoken by a loved one or authority figure.

Apparently, no more need for politicians to speak in too much coded language, designed to cloak their true positions and to avoid offending everyone. Dog-whistles are passe. Say it like it is. Or, call a spade a spade. Make an "open and coarse appeal to the passions of the populace; habitually abandon the principles of political science to assail the characters of individuals.” Now a principle of the Right.
The real enemy to the Right is Political Correctne... (show quote)



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Mar 16, 2019 12:25:49   #
PeterS
 
rumitoid wrote:
The real enemy to the Right is Political Correctness. Why?

Trump tweeting an anti-Semitic Internet meme depicting a Star of David atop a pile of cash in 2016. Donald Trump’s former campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said any objections or criticism was just “political correctness run amok.” The origins of that meme were discovered to be a message board of neo-Nazis and white supremacists who presumably agree with Lewandowski. After all, they titled their message board, “Politically Incorrect.”

Political correctness has been a whipping boy of the right wing for decades, and Trump is cracking the whip with abandon. He told a group of evangelical leaders that they shouldn’t pray for President Obama because “We can’t be… politically correct and say we pray for all of our leaders, because all of your leaders are selling Christianity down the tubes.” (Just an aside: who better to pray for?)

Remember his response to Fox host Megyn Kelly when she asked him about his temperament after calling some women “dogs” and “fat pigs”? It was: “I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct.” After being skewered by all sides for racist comments about a Hispanic federal judge hearing a case he was involved in, “We have to stop being so politically correct in this country.” He is saying we can freely be racist and misogynist.

Outright xenophobic, Islamophobic, racist, and anti-gay rhetoric is encouraged as being just forthright, exalted as a breathe of fresh air by the GOP, not pandering to lily-liveried Liberals so concerned about people's feelings and the effects of words. Sticks and stones may break our bones...but words are far, far worse. Ask anyone alive what cut them to the core and damaged them most, more than any physical harm, were harsh words spoken by a loved one or authority figure.

Apparently, no more need for politicians to speak in too much coded language, designed to cloak their true positions and to avoid offending everyone. Dog-whistles are passe. Say it like it is. Or, call a spade a spade. Make an "open and coarse appeal to the passions of the populace; habitually abandon the principles of political science to assail the characters of individuals.” Now a principle of the Right.
The real enemy to the Right is Political Correctne... (show quote)


Political correctness started out as a means to stymie racism in our society by making aspects of our lives unacceptable. An example is how the word "Nigger" became unacceptable in our vernacular. We didn't simply make the word unacceptable but as a society agreed that its use simply has no place in civil discourse. The key is a civil society and how political correctness has been used in an effort to create it.

Since its inception as a tool against racism, it has been used to quell all the nasty little idiocracies of our society.

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Mar 16, 2019 12:29:39   #
PeterS
 
vernon wrote:
political correctness is the way the lefties try to control speech. and it is working.

Not speech but how we think and it's not simply 'lefties' but civil society as a whole. Unfortunately for conservatives, it includes a large chunk of the right!

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Mar 16, 2019 12:30:05   #
PeterS
 
vernon wrote:
for 6 more years.

For now...

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Mar 16, 2019 14:00:12   #
rumitoid
 
proud republican wrote:
You are full of BS,Rumi...President Trump is very pro Jewish....And he is not Donald Trump,he IS PRESIDENT TRUMP...And i would never believe that President Trump told that Evangelicals shouldnt pray for obama......Political correctness is for the leftists..Normal people dont do PC....You know for a while there i thought you have changed, but you are the same as usual ...Full of BS!!!


If you don't believe something, google it, pr.

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Mar 16, 2019 14:02:41   #
rumitoid
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
I don't see that changing for 6 years at least, Pete. At least not until the Democrats stop defacating in their mess kits. Green New Deal my backside!


If you are going to talk shit, get it right: "defacating" is spelled defecating.

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Mar 16, 2019 14:06:32   #
rumitoid
 
son of witless wrote:
You must paint those you disagree with as bigots. You deny that illegal immigration is happening and that there is a cost to it. You deny that it is wrong to have biological men in rest rooms and shower rooms with women and girls. Think of how crazy your point of view is.


Lol, I paint them as bigots? Funny. I disagree with them because THEY ARE bigots.

"You deny that illegal immigration is happening and that there is a cost to it." I do not and never have.

"you deny that it is wrong to have biological men in rest rooms and shower rooms with women and girls." I do not and never have and in fact I wrote a thread against transgender in sports.

Think of how crazy it is to believe you are in another's head.

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Mar 16, 2019 14:30:01   #
rumitoid
 
bylm1-Bernie wrote:
We could say this about most liberals, Son, but you have to remember, their views is why we call them liberal. That is simply what they believe. I am acquainted with several liberals and it is so frustrating to talk with them about issues. I can tell what they believe by asking myself what is the opposite of what I believe. Abortion, Voter ID laws, same sex marriage, unisex locker rooms, global warming, you name it. To us, what is crazy, is normal to them. The reason they come up with names like bigots and homophobes is that is what they do. You disagree with them, you get a derogatory label. I consider it a badge of honor. It isn't going to change, I fear.
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It is wise not to stereotype any group, for that is the worst form of prejudice. Remember this: Generalizations are helpful. Stereotypes are hurtful. I have spoken out against abortion here. There is a thread. But you take it for granted that I am for abortion because you have stereotyped liberals.

Some Voter ID laws can suppress the vote. In North Dakota, votes by the Native population helped win an election. The GOP legislature then made having a residential address part of voter ID. Most on the reservations do not have a residential address, they use the Post Office for mail. Is that fair or right? Each situation demands attention to the particulars.

Same sex marriage is none of my business, nor should it be yours. How does it effect you? If it is your religious belief or personal value not to have a same sex marriage, then don't do it.

I disagree with unisex locker rooms. But you take it for granted that I do because you have stereotyped liberals.

As far as climate change goes, I have another thread on OPP about not making the topic a political football defining party affiliation. There does appear to be evidence suggesting man-made climate change from numerous sources yet we must remain open to new and growing research on the matter. Our future and that of our family and planet may be at risk. Why be against it just because most liberals back it? It could be true.

"You disagree with them, you get a derogatory label." No, the opposite is true. The reason for the disagreement is the bigotry and homophobia. Big difference.

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Mar 16, 2019 14:39:57   #
rumitoid
 
Seth wrote:
Political correctness was boiling frog'd into our unsuspecting society as a means for censorship from the left.

For example, in order to solve ongoing problems that keep blacks in poor neighborhoods from getting out of their poverty, it is necessary to address the detrimental effects of single parent homes, crime, drug use, etc... But thanks to PC, it is "racist" to discuss the things that have to be discussed in order to solve the problems.

Political correctness is operational security for leftists in their day-to-day operations to bring down America.
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Political Correctness, defined: "the avoidance, often considered as taken to extremes, of forms of expression or action that are perceived to exclude, marginalize, or insult groups of people who are socially disadvantaged or discriminated against."

Yes, as the definition says, it can be taken to extremes, but that is not the rule. Citing the absurdities does a disservice to being more sensitive and civil to certain groups.

How a subject is framed determines if it is racist or not. We can discuss issues about poverty and its causes and how to remedy the situation, yet stereotypical racist characterizations, such as "welfare queens," is an attack and should be politically incorrect.

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Mar 16, 2019 14:41:00   #
rumitoid
 
TrueAmerican wrote:
Ignorant people say ignorant things !!!!!!
Ignorant people say ignorant things !!!!!! img sr... (show quote)


How revealing. Thank you.

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Mar 16, 2019 14:42:22   #
rumitoid
 
Weasel wrote:
100%
Perfectly stated. Very well said.
His ignorance knows no bounds.


Can you ever form your own opinion?

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Mar 16, 2019 14:52:15   #
bylm1-Bernie
 
rumitoid wrote:
If you are going to talk shit, get it right: "defacating" is spelled defecating.


Sorry, Rumi, I don't use that term often. I rarely misspell but I didn't want to use the street term that you used. I guess my spell-check didn't catch it either. We'll try to watch the spelling more closely in the future.

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Mar 16, 2019 14:56:21   #
son of witless
 
PeterS wrote:
Political correctness started out as a means to stymie racism in our society by making aspects of our lives unacceptable. An example is how the word "Nigger" became unacceptable in our vernacular. We didn't simply make the word unacceptable but as a society agreed that its use simply has no place in civil discourse. The key is a civil society and how political correctness has been used in an effort to create it.

Since its inception as a tool against racism, it has been used to quell all the nasty little idiocracies of our society.
Political correctness started out as a means to st... (show quote)


Political correctness started out as a way for left wing radicals to bypass the First Amendment and shut up normal people from criticizing their Kommunist wacko agenda.

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