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Mar 4, 2019 22:01:41   #
Geo
 
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ally scrambles
03/04/19 12:44 PM

By Steve Benen
The day before Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony, one of Donald Trump’s most flamboyantly partisan allies sent the former “fixer” an unusual message via Twitter.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) wrote, “Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot.”
Almost immediately, legal experts weighed in, suggesting the missive looked an awful lot like the Republican congressman was trying to influence Cohen’s testimony – which would be witness tampering, which is a felony.
In the face of difficult questions, Gaetz initially refused to back down. As Vanity Fair reports, the Florida Republican is now in full retreat.
“Mr. Cohen, this is Congressman Matt Gaetz,” he wrote in a text to Cohen. “I am writing to personally tell you I’m sorry for the tweet that I sent which many believe was threatening to you. It was never ever ever my intent to threaten you in any way.”
“While you don’t know me,” he continued, “that is not who I am and how I operate. I do not wish any harm to you or your family. I was upset at what was transpiring and chose my words poorly. I will work to be better, as I know you said today you will as well. Have a good evening. – Matt.”
For those keeping score, this was not the GOP lawmaker’s only apology. Gaetz also published a tweet last week expressing his regrets.
It’s possible, of course, that Gaetz, after having a little time to reflect on his antics, realized he went too far, and he’s now sincerely apologizing. It’s also possible that the congressman is scrambling because he fears the consequences of his actions.

The Florida Bar Association is now investigating Gaetz, and congressional Democrats have raised the specter of an ethics investigation.
I’m not saying Gaetz’s apologies are insincere, but I’d also be interested to know whether they were the result of recommendations from counsel.

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Mar 4, 2019 22:07:11   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Geoober wrote:
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ally scramblesp
03/04/19 12:44 PM

By Steve Benen
The day before Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony, one of Donald Trump’s most flamboyantly partisan allies sent the former “fixer” an unusual message via Twitter.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) wrote, “Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot.”
Almost immediately, legal experts weighed in, suggesting the missive looked an awful lot like the Republican congressman was trying to influence Cohen’s testimony – which would be witness tampering, which is a felony.
In the face of difficult questions, Gaetz initially refused to back down. As Vanity Fair reports, the Florida Republican is now in full retreat.
“Mr. Cohen, this is Congressman Matt Gaetz,” he wrote in a text to Cohen. “I am writing to personally tell you I’m sorry for the tweet that I sent which many believe was threatening to you. It was never ever ever my intent to threaten you in any way.”
“While you don’t know me,” he continued, “that is not who I am and how I operate. I do not wish any harm to you or your family. I was upset at what was transpiring and chose my words poorly. I will work to be better, as I know you said today you will as well. Have a good evening. – Matt.”
For those keeping score, this was not the GOP lawmaker’s only apology. Gaetz also published a tweet last week expressing his regrets.
It’s possible, of course, that Gaetz, after having a little time to reflect on his antics, realized he went too far, and he’s now sincerely apologizing. It’s also possible that the congressman is scrambling because he fears the consequences of his actions.

The Florida Bar Association is now investigating Gaetz, and congressional Democrats have raised the specter of an ethics investigation.
I’m not saying Gaetz’s apologies are insincere, but I’d also be interested to know whether they were the result of recommendations from counsel.
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ... (show quote)


That's a right nice nothin' burger you've got there...............pilgrim.





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Mar 4, 2019 22:15:32   #
teabag09
 
Geo wrote:
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ally scrambles
03/04/19 12:44 PM

By Steve Benen
The day before Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony, one of Donald Trump’s most flamboyantly partisan allies sent the former “fixer” an unusual message via Twitter.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) wrote, “Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot.”
Almost immediately, legal experts weighed in, suggesting the missive looked an awful lot like the Republican congressman was trying to influence Cohen’s testimony – which would be witness tampering, which is a felony.
In the face of difficult questions, Gaetz initially refused to back down. As Vanity Fair reports, the Florida Republican is now in full retreat.
“Mr. Cohen, this is Congressman Matt Gaetz,” he wrote in a text to Cohen. “I am writing to personally tell you I’m sorry for the tweet that I sent which many believe was threatening to you. It was never ever ever my intent to threaten you in any way.”
“While you don’t know me,” he continued, “that is not who I am and how I operate. I do not wish any harm to you or your family. I was upset at what was transpiring and chose my words poorly. I will work to be better, as I know you said today you will as well. Have a good evening. – Matt.”
For those keeping score, this was not the GOP lawmaker’s only apology. Gaetz also published a tweet last week expressing his regrets.
It’s possible, of course, that Gaetz, after having a little time to reflect on his antics, realized he went too far, and he’s now sincerely apologizing. It’s also possible that the congressman is scrambling because he fears the consequences of his actions.

The Florida Bar Association is now investigating Gaetz, and congressional Democrats have raised the specter of an ethics investigation.
I’m not saying Gaetz’s apologies are insincere, but I’d also be interested to know whether they were the result of recommendations from counsel.
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ... (show quote)


More proof of these idiots on both sides in DC thinking they are smarter than the populous. If these people had a clue they'd stay as far away from twitter as possible or if not get conformation on substance from a second party before hitting the send button. Mike

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Mar 4, 2019 23:21:48   #
rumitoid
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
That's a right nice nothin' burger you've got there...............pilgrim.


Every Law Professor With a Twitter Account Says Congressman Matt Gaetz Just Committed Witness Tampering.

Hey @MichaelCohen212 - Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot...
— Matt Gaetz (@mattgaetz) February 26, 2019

Gaetz’s threat ("She's about to learn a lot...") comes on the eve of Cohen’s public testimony about the president’s involvement in schemes to buy the silence of adult actress Stormy Daniels and former Playboy model Karen McDougal in order to prevent the public from discovering that a man famous for being unfaithful to his various wives was still sleeping around. Irony. Blackmailers send pictures to their targets of them with other women saying they will expose those liaisons: that is a crime. Sending a tweet essentially doing the same thing is a crime: witness tampering. Intimidation! It says to Cohen, "Shut up or else!"


Ryan Goodman

@rgoodlaw

Hey @mattgaetz - Does your personal attorney know you’ve just engaged, very clearly, in the crime of witness tampering? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1100503846386835456


Steve Vladeck

@steve_vladeck

Hey @mattgaetz:

Do you know about 18 U.S.C. § 1512(b), which prohibits tampering with witnesses to official proceedings?:https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1100503846386835456


Laurence Tribe

@tribelaw

.@mattgaetz is a disgusting excuse for a human being. He’s also engaged in criminal witness tampering in plain sight. No immunity is available. He deserves to be indicted, and of course needs to be kicked out of Congress.

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Mar 5, 2019 00:46:35   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
Geo wrote:
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ally scrambles
03/04/19 12:44 PM

By Steve Benen
The day before Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony, one of Donald Trump’s most flamboyantly partisan allies sent the former “fixer” an unusual message via Twitter.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) wrote, “Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot.”
Almost immediately, legal experts weighed in, suggesting the missive looked an awful lot like the Republican congressman was trying to influence Cohen’s testimony – which would be witness tampering, which is a felony.
In the face of difficult questions, Gaetz initially refused to back down. As Vanity Fair reports, the Florida Republican is now in full retreat.
“Mr. Cohen, this is Congressman Matt Gaetz,” he wrote in a text to Cohen. “I am writing to personally tell you I’m sorry for the tweet that I sent which many believe was threatening to you. It was never ever ever my intent to threaten you in any way.”
“While you don’t know me,” he continued, “that is not who I am and how I operate. I do not wish any harm to you or your family. I was upset at what was transpiring and chose my words poorly. I will work to be better, as I know you said today you will as well. Have a good evening. – Matt.”
For those keeping score, this was not the GOP lawmaker’s only apology. Gaetz also published a tweet last week expressing his regrets.
It’s possible, of course, that Gaetz, after having a little time to reflect on his antics, realized he went too far, and he’s now sincerely apologizing. It’s also possible that the congressman is scrambling because he fears the consequences of his actions.

The Florida Bar Association is now investigating Gaetz, and congressional Democrats have raised the specter of an ethics investigation.
I’m not saying Gaetz’s apologies are insincere, but I’d also be interested to know whether they were the result of recommendations from counsel.
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ... (show quote)



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Mar 5, 2019 03:00:31   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Interesting response, can I assume that you are okay with such crimes? Are you only okay with such crimes if they are committed by Republicans? Would you be okay with such crimes if committed by Democrats? What all crimes are okay inyour book and does it matter the party of the offender? Inquiring minds want to know.


Edit: A reply to BigMike, "reply quote" does not function properly if all they post is a meme.

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Mar 5, 2019 03:18:16   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Geo wrote:
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ally scrambles
03/04/19 12:44 PM

By Steve Benen
The day before Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony, one of Donald Trump’s most flamboyantly partisan allies sent the former “fixer” an unusual message via Twitter.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) wrote, “Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot.”
Almost immediately, legal experts weighed in, suggesting the missive looked an awful lot like the Republican congressman was trying to influence Cohen’s testimony – which would be witness tampering, which is a felony.
In the face of difficult questions, Gaetz initially refused to back down. As Vanity Fair reports, the Florida Republican is now in full retreat.
“Mr. Cohen, this is Congressman Matt Gaetz,” he wrote in a text to Cohen. “I am writing to personally tell you I’m sorry for the tweet that I sent which many believe was threatening to you. It was never ever ever my intent to threaten you in any way.”
“While you don’t know me,” he continued, “that is not who I am and how I operate. I do not wish any harm to you or your family. I was upset at what was transpiring and chose my words poorly. I will work to be better, as I know you said today you will as well. Have a good evening. – Matt.”
For those keeping score, this was not the GOP lawmaker’s only apology. Gaetz also published a tweet last week expressing his regrets.
It’s possible, of course, that Gaetz, after having a little time to reflect on his antics, realized he went too far, and he’s now sincerely apologizing. It’s also possible that the congressman is scrambling because he fears the consequences of his actions.

The Florida Bar Association is now investigating Gaetz, and congressional Democrats have raised the specter of an ethics investigation.
I’m not saying Gaetz’s apologies are insincere, but I’d also be interested to know whether they were the result of recommendations from counsel.
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ... (show quote)
Guess you haven't heard, we've just learned that in the hours leading up to Cohen's testimony before the House Oversight Committee, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee briefed Cohen on topics they would discuss and questions they would ask. A clear case of witness tampering if ever there was one.

What do you think should be done with that sleazy little California viper?

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Mar 5, 2019 03:35:32   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Guess you haven't heard, we've just learned that in the hours leading up to Cohen's testimony before the House Oversight Committee, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee briefed Cohen on topics they would discuss and questions they would ask. A clear case of witness tampering if ever there was one.

What do you think should be done with that sleazy little California viper?


Actually... that is pretty much standard practice and in fact, NOT witness tampering.


Quote:
TAMPERING WITH A WITNESS
Title 18, U.S.C., Sec. 1512, makes it a Federal crime or offense for anyone to use intimidation or physical force to threaten another person with intent to influence the testimony of a witness in any Court proceeding.

A person can be found guilty of that offense only if all of the following facts are proved beyond a reasonable doubt: First: That the witness was scheduled to be a witness in court; Second: That the person used intimidation/physical force against such witness; and Third: That the person did so knowingly and willfully with the intent to influence the testimony of the witness.

To act with intent to "influence" the testimony of a witness means to act for the purpose of getting the witness to change or color or shade his or her testimony in some way; but it is not necessary to prove that the witness' testimony was, in fact, changed in any way.
TAMPERING WITH A WITNESS br Title 18, U.S.C., Sec.... (show quote)


Source: https://www.lectlaw.com/def2/t004.htm

Please feel free to point out where in there it supports your claim.

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Mar 5, 2019 04:38:20   #
Kevyn
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Guess you haven't heard, we've just learned that in the hours leading up to Cohen's testimony before the House Oversight Committee, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee briefed Cohen on topics they would discuss and questions they would ask. A clear case of witness tampering if ever there was one.

What do you think should be done with that sleazy little California viper?

He should be handed your idiot Pumpkinfuhrer’s business and tax records... and guess what that is exactly what is happening!

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Mar 5, 2019 04:44:29   #
rumitoid
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
Interesting response, can I assume that you are okay with such crimes? Are you only okay with such crimes if they are committed by Republicans? Would you be okay with such crimes if committed by Democrats? What all crimes are okay inyour book and does it matter the party of the offender? Inquiring minds want to know.


Edit: A reply to BigMike, "reply quote" does not function properly if all they post is a meme.


Funny and cutting stuff, CSM.

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Mar 5, 2019 04:45:24   #
rumitoid
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Guess you haven't heard, we've just learned that in the hours leading up to Cohen's testimony before the House Oversight Committee, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee briefed Cohen on topics they would discuss and questions they would ask. A clear case of witness tampering if ever there was one.

What do you think should be done with that sleazy little California viper?


Show proof and we will talk.

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Mar 5, 2019 06:55:25   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Geo wrote:
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ally scrambles
03/04/19 12:44 PM

By Steve Benen
The day before Michael Cohen’s congressional testimony, one of Donald Trump’s most flamboyantly partisan allies sent the former “fixer” an unusual message via Twitter.
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) wrote, “Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot.”
Almost immediately, legal experts weighed in, suggesting the missive looked an awful lot like the Republican congressman was trying to influence Cohen’s testimony – which would be witness tampering, which is a felony.
In the face of difficult questions, Gaetz initially refused to back down. As Vanity Fair reports, the Florida Republican is now in full retreat.
“Mr. Cohen, this is Congressman Matt Gaetz,” he wrote in a text to Cohen. “I am writing to personally tell you I’m sorry for the tweet that I sent which many believe was threatening to you. It was never ever ever my intent to threaten you in any way.”
“While you don’t know me,” he continued, “that is not who I am and how I operate. I do not wish any harm to you or your family. I was upset at what was transpiring and chose my words poorly. I will work to be better, as I know you said today you will as well. Have a good evening. – Matt.”
For those keeping score, this was not the GOP lawmaker’s only apology. Gaetz also published a tweet last week expressing his regrets.
It’s possible, of course, that Gaetz, after having a little time to reflect on his antics, realized he went too far, and he’s now sincerely apologizing. It’s also possible that the congressman is scrambling because he fears the consequences of his actions.

The Florida Bar Association is now investigating Gaetz, and congressional Democrats have raised the specter of an ethics investigation.
I’m not saying Gaetz’s apologies are insincere, but I’d also be interested to know whether they were the result of recommendations from counsel.
Accused of witness tampering, Trump congressional ... (show quote)



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Mar 5, 2019 15:28:44   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
rumitoid wrote:
Funny and cutting stuff, CSM.


Thank you, I aim to please, Ex-class clown after all.

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Mar 5, 2019 15:40:39   #
Rose42
 
rumitoid wrote:
Show proof and we will talk.


You know there is no proof of how the conversation went and never will be.

We will never know what went on in that conversation and if it was above board. Based on the integrity of both parties I'm sure it wasn't.

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Mar 5, 2019 18:46:21   #
joanie
 
Maybe the media should do the same.

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