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Rachel Maddow Explains How Democrats Can Stop Trump’s National Emergency Before It Even Begins
Feb 15, 2019 08:09:29   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/02/14/maddow-pelosi-trump-fake-national-emergency.html


Rachel Maddow laid out the blueprint on Thursday for how House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could essentially stop Donald Trump’s phony national emergency declaration before it even begins.
According to the MSNBC host, all Pelosi has to do is hold a vote to block Trump’s declaration, which would trigger a Senate vote that is far from a shoo-in for the president.

“If Pelosi in the House passes a resolution blocking Trump from declaring this emergency … it would trigger a vote automatically in the Senate and once that vote was triggered in the Senate, honestly, it would only take a couple of Republicans voting with the Democratic senators to, in fact, block President Trump from declaring this emergency,” Maddow said.


So if Pelosi does this, if Pelosi in the House passes a resolution blocking Trump from declaring this emergency, once that vote happened, it would trigger a vote automatically in the Senate and once that vote was triggered in the Senate, honestly, it would only take a couple of Republicans voting with the Democratic senators to, in fact, block President Trump from declaring this emergency.

That’s all it would take. And we all know from the public record, from the tape, from the receipts, that a lot more than just a couple Republican senators are on the record bluntly and unequivocally and recently saying that an emergency declaration from this president on this would be a terrible idea and they would be willing to fight him on it. Well, if they put their money where their mouth is, they could stop this president from doing it. And this is not hypothetical.

Enough Republicans are on the record opposing the resolution
While it’s mostly a pie in the sky idea to think that Republicans will ever adequately stand up to Donald Trump, on this issue – the emergency declaration – they may have boxed themselves in so badly that they can’t turn back.

In recent weeks, likely because they didn’t believe Trump would actually go forward with a fake national emergency, a handful of Republicans have said they oppose the move. They are on tape saying it’s a bad idea and that they would fight Trump on it.
Now that Trump is on the verge of declaring the national emergency, all Nancy Pelosi has to do is trigger a vote that would force Republicans in the Senate to put their money where their mouths are.

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Feb 15, 2019 08:45:02   #
Wolf counselor Loc: Heart of Texas
 
Bad Boob Job wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/02/14/maddow-pelosi-trump-fake-national-emergency.html


Rachel Maddow laid out the blueprint on Thursday for how House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could essentially stop Donald Trump’s phony national emergency declaration before it even begins.
According to the MSNBC host, all Pelosi has to do is hold a vote to block Trump’s declaration, which would trigger a Senate vote that is far from a shoo-in for the president.

“If Pelosi in the House passes a resolution blocking Trump from declaring this emergency … it would trigger a vote automatically in the Senate and once that vote was triggered in the Senate, honestly, it would only take a couple of Republicans voting with the Democratic senators to, in fact, block President Trump from declaring this emergency,” Maddow said.


So if Pelosi does this, if Pelosi in the House passes a resolution blocking Trump from declaring this emergency, once that vote happened, it would trigger a vote automatically in the Senate and once that vote was triggered in the Senate, honestly, it would only take a couple of Republicans voting with the Democratic senators to, in fact, block President Trump from declaring this emergency.

That’s all it would take. And we all know from the public record, from the tape, from the receipts, that a lot more than just a couple Republican senators are on the record bluntly and unequivocally and recently saying that an emergency declaration from this president on this would be a terrible idea and they would be willing to fight him on it. Well, if they put their money where their mouth is, they could stop this president from doing it. And this is not hypothetical.

Enough Republicans are on the record opposing the resolution
While it’s mostly a pie in the sky idea to think that Republicans will ever adequately stand up to Donald Trump, on this issue – the emergency declaration – they may have boxed themselves in so badly that they can’t turn back.

In recent weeks, likely because they didn’t believe Trump would actually go forward with a fake national emergency, a handful of Republicans have said they oppose the move. They are on tape saying it’s a bad idea and that they would fight Trump on it.
Now that Trump is on the verge of declaring the national emergency, all Nancy Pelosi has to do is trigger a vote that would force Republicans in the Senate to put their money where their mouths are.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/02/14/maddow-pel... (show quote)


You do know that they keep that mutt on a leash when she's not on camera.



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Feb 15, 2019 08:47:35   #
Gatsby
 
Bad Bob wrote:
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/02/14/maddow-pelosi-trump-fake-national-emergency.html


Rachel Maddow laid out the blueprint on Thursday for how House Speaker Nancy Pelosi could essentially stop Donald Trump’s phony national emergency declaration before it even begins.
According to the MSNBC host, all Pelosi has to do is hold a vote to block Trump’s declaration, which would trigger a Senate vote that is far from a shoo-in for the president.

“If Pelosi in the House passes a resolution blocking Trump from declaring this emergency … it would trigger a vote automatically in the Senate and once that vote was triggered in the Senate, honestly, it would only take a couple of Republicans voting with the Democratic senators to, in fact, block President Trump from declaring this emergency,” Maddow said.


So if Pelosi does this, if Pelosi in the House passes a resolution blocking Trump from declaring this emergency, once that vote happened, it would trigger a vote automatically in the Senate and once that vote was triggered in the Senate, honestly, it would only take a couple of Republicans voting with the Democratic senators to, in fact, block President Trump from declaring this emergency.

That’s all it would take. And we all know from the public record, from the tape, from the receipts, that a lot more than just a couple Republican senators are on the record bluntly and unequivocally and recently saying that an emergency declaration from this president on this would be a terrible idea and they would be willing to fight him on it. Well, if they put their money where their mouth is, they could stop this president from doing it. And this is not hypothetical.

Enough Republicans are on the record opposing the resolution
While it’s mostly a pie in the sky idea to think that Republicans will ever adequately stand up to Donald Trump, on this issue – the emergency declaration – they may have boxed themselves in so badly that they can’t turn back.

In recent weeks, likely because they didn’t believe Trump would actually go forward with a fake national emergency, a handful of Republicans have said they oppose the move. They are on tape saying it’s a bad idea and that they would fight Trump on it.
Now that Trump is on the verge of declaring the national emergency, all Nancy Pelosi has to do is trigger a vote that would force Republicans in the Senate to put their money where their mouths are.
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/02/14/maddow-pel... (show quote)


Clearly MadCow has never heard of the Presidential VETO.

What an IDIOT!

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Feb 15, 2019 12:49:08   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Gatsby wrote:
Clearly MadCow has never heard of the Presidential VETO.

What an IDIOT!


You can't veto a veto, which is basically what they are talking about, the congress basically vetoing Trump's National emergency. It is one of our checks and balances and if a president could "veto" a check and balance, what would be the point of having it in place? It's sole purpose is to counter potential abuses of power should we have a power crazed lunatic in charge.

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Feb 15, 2019 16:49:17   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Wolf counselor wrote:
You do know that they keep that mutt on a leash when she's not on camera.


Boo



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Feb 15, 2019 17:29:52   #
Gatsby
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
You can't veto a veto, which is basically what they are talking about, the congress basically vetoing Trump's National emergency. It is one of our checks and balances and if a president could "veto" a check and balance, what would be the point of having it in place? It's sole purpose is to counter potential abuses of power should we have a power crazed lunatic in charge.


Read and educate yourself;

https://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwhbsb.html

or just remain a liberal, the choice is yours, and yours alone.

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Feb 15, 2019 17:45:31   #
woodguru
 
Gatsby wrote:
Clearly MadCow has never heard of the Presidential VETO.

What an IDIOT!


The house and senate are working with veto proof numbers, Trump is a dead duck.

He could not have vetoed the spending bill if he wanted to, McConnell sent the message about who is in control.

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Feb 15, 2019 18:32:52   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
Gatsby wrote:
Read and educate yourself;

https://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwhbsb.html

or just remain a liberal, the choice is yours, and yours alone.


You seem to forget that any bill or resolution (which the attempt to block a declaration of national emergency would be) can pass into law EVEN if the President tries to veto it.

Wikipedia wrote:
...Congress can undo a state of emergency declaration with either a joint resolution and the President's signature, or with a veto-proof (two-thirds) majority vote.[1] Powers available under this Act are limited to the 136 emergency powers Congress has defined by law.[2]


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Emergencies_Act



Here come the trolls to say Wikipedia is not a reliable source, to counter that, I suppose I could just post this from a government website.

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/94/hr3884/summary wrote:
Wikipedia's Summary
Library of Congress
The National Emergencies Act (Pub.L. 94–412, 90 Stat. 1255, enacted September 14, 1976, codified at 50 U.S.C. § 1601-1651) is a United States federal law passed to stop open-ended states of national emergency and formalize the power of Congress to provide certain checks and balances on the emergency powers of the President. The Act of Congress imposes certain procedural formalities on the President when invoking such powers. The perceived need for the law arose from the scope and number of laws granting special powers to the executive in times of national emergency.

The H.R. 3884 legislation was passed by the 94th United States Congress and signed by the 38th President of the United States Gerald R. Ford on September 14, 1976.

On 6 March 2014, U.S. President Barack Obama, invoked, inter alia, the National Emergencies Act, and signed an executive order that declared a national emergency and ordered sanctions, including travel bans and the freezing of U.S. asset, against not-yet-specified individuals, later to be determined by the Secretary of the Treasury (in consultation with the Secretary of State) who had "asserted governmental authority in the Crimean region without the authorization of the Government of Ukraine" and whose actions were found, inter alia, to "undermine democratic processes and institutions in Ukraine".

This summary is from Wikipedia.

Last updated Oct 11, 2018. Source: Wikipedia
Wikipedia's Summary br Library of Congress br The ... (show quote)



Source: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/94/hr3884/summary



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Feb 18, 2019 18:06:41   #
Gatsby
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:


Your plan would require 20 Republican Senators to vote to overturn the declaration.

Fat Chance.

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