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Here is how Mexico will pay for our Border Wall!!!!!
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Feb 15, 2019 17:11:25   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
old marine wrote:
Holding or detaining facilities qualify as jails. They are filled to capacity now.


How bout convicted old f***?

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Feb 15, 2019 17:27:27   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
Yes $2 trillion in over 2 years, vs more than $11 trillion in 8 years.

Manning the existing barrier already costs more per year than the $5 billion Trump asked for. With a wall, the money needed for border security can be reduced. How much can only be guessed at until the wall is in place.

In 2018, the budgets for border security alone included:
CBP--$2,913,234 million
ICE--$1,802,155 million
Coast Guard--$267,650 million
Immigration services--$835,130 million
CBP training--$28,765 million
USMS--$8,800 million
Detention--$50,349 million
Border security technology--$144,366 million
Immigration Court--$144,900 million
Immigration Judges--$74,950 million
Land acquisition--$$1,798 million
And an unknown amount of ATF's budget spent of gun crime and confiscation of/from illegal aliens.

2018 TOTAL: $6,272,097,000
Have I left anything out?
Yes $2 trillion in over 2 years, vs more than $11 ... (show quote)


2 trillion time 8 seems to be 16 trillion..

his 5.7 billion for 200 miles of wall times the wall length he wants times the time required to build it times the ineffectiveness of the wall times the 11 million illegals who live here now and dont intend to leave..

Yes, I would say you left out a great deal the matters, but you did not look beyond the orange con man told.. it would be a wonderful wall,, Biggles image for the nation..

BS...

If we spend the money, lets make it worthwhile.. not toss it in the swamp..



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Feb 15, 2019 17:30:29   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
Yes some still get past the wall. In San Diego, Jim Henry, assistant chief of the Border Patrol's San Diego sector says apprehensions here are down 95 percent from pre-wall numbers. Going from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double -- and in some places, triple -- fencing.

I think that is a good indication the wall works in San Diego!!!!




It is also the largest staff on the border.. Do not leave those little details out of you trumpeting..

which would you pick? to late,none of them will be used...
which would you pick? to late,none of them will b...

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Feb 15, 2019 17:32:55   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
old marine wrote:
Maybe it's too far to the border for you to see or to hear the residents side of the story.

My employees driving our small fleet of truck have told me the complaints residents of Texas and New Mexico and eastern Arizona and other truckers at truck stops tell them.

Sometimes you can't see the forrest because the trees get in the way.



I have said several times the probably, if i lived in a border state, I could have a different opinion on the wall.

As it is, again, I dont want a wall but I do want border security..

Spend the money but no wall..

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Feb 15, 2019 17:34:30   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
old marine wrote:
Maybe you live too far from California to hear people complain.



they were complaining in the 60s when I was stationed in that "golden state".. bet that has not changed..

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Feb 15, 2019 17:37:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
old marine wrote:
You must think this old 80 year old geezer gets out of paying property tax on 3, 070 acres of land.

I could buy a nice 3 bedroom home each year with the property tax I pay, and my county has one on the lowest property taxes in the nation.





No, we all have pay those taxes.. property tax is my biggest complaint..

you would think that after a certain age, we could all be tax free... LOL

Also have free fishing license.. once upon a time we did in Mn, but I missed that little perk..

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Feb 15, 2019 17:44:52   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
I believe we do need a barrier. It would help the border patrol immensely to not have to try to find illegal border crossers HOURS later trying to get to remote parts of their patrolled area based on footage from drones etc. They could focus on breaches in a much more efficient way with a barrier. What I stated wasn't "making a leap ". Your party leader claims a barrier is an "immorality". This from the parry that supports late term abortion, but that's another subject. I do not understand or agree that securing our sovereign borders is an "immorality". Honestly, follow the money is always a good tactic. Billions and billions of dollars leave our country to go to drug lords in South America every year. Tons and tons of drugs come in. I guess I wonder who's getting the grease from the drug trade in our government. I could make an educated guess. And they're not all democrats, either.
I believe we do need a barrier. It would help the... (show quote)


i do not have a party leader, I vote as I wish.. as I wish for a great nation, that becomes a democrat vote.
more and more these days..

Can you not make any statement without diverting to Abortion??

It is time the right wing got some real life statement out on the net.. old refrains get useless.
"pro life"was the greatest lip service phrase the right ever came up with and the have a lot..
but it is far from the only thing to rant about..

Yes, drugs are a great evil and if only we could remove them our lives would be so much better..



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Feb 15, 2019 17:46:07   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
debeda wrote:
Oh, sorry i got sidetracked and didnt respond to your question. If the Congress (again, not just democrats) was not so obstructive, the El Chapo billions could easily pay for a barrier, border patrol wages AND electronics. That being said, I agree with the President calling a national emergency, and if he can't get the caught drug lord's money he should use money earmarked for illegal drug control. This border nonsense, like so many other bizarre programs, has gone far enough and needs to be nipped in the bud.
Oh, sorry i got sidetracked and didnt respond to y... (show quote)



I do like your El Chapo idea...

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Feb 15, 2019 17:53:35   #
JoyV
 
debeda wrote:
Oh, sorry i got sidetracked and didnt respond to your question. If the Congress (again, not just democrats) was not so obstructive, the El Chapo billions could easily pay for a barrier, border patrol wages AND electronics. That being said, I agree with the President calling a national emergency, and if he can't get the caught drug lord's money he should use money earmarked for illegal drug control. This border nonsense, like so many other bizarre programs, has gone far enough and needs to be nipped in the bud.
Oh, sorry i got sidetracked and didnt respond to y... (show quote)


I agree!!!!

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Feb 15, 2019 17:57:45   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
2 trillion time 8 seems to be 16 trillion..

his 5.7 billion for 200 miles of wall times the wall length he wants times the time required to build it times the ineffectiveness of the wall times the 11 million illegals who live here now and dont intend to leave..

Yes, I would say you left out a great deal the matters, but you did not look beyond the orange con man told.. it would be a wonderful wall,, Biggles image for the nation..

BS...

If we spend the money, lets make it worthwhile.. not toss it in the swamp..
2 trillion time 8 seems to be 16 trillion.. br br... (show quote)


A president can only serve 2 terms. So unless you are starting a push to allow Trump to serve 16 years, why would you multiply the $2 trillion over 2 years under the Trump administration, by 8?

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Feb 15, 2019 17:59:24   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
It is also the largest staff on the border.. Do not leave those little details out of you trumpeting..


It was the largest staffed BEFORE a wall was built there too.

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Feb 15, 2019 18:07:03   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
It is also the largest staff on the border.. Do not leave those little details out of you trumpeting..


Most of us on the border, and CBP; prefer a bollard style wall. It does not block visibility on what is on the Mexican side, it allows for flood water flow, and more can be built for the money as it is not as expensive as many others.

The bollard style wall with existing technology and existing or even reduced CBP agents on patrols; is by far the most efficient and cost effective solution which does not utilize lethal force.

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Feb 15, 2019 18:14:40   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
2 trillion time 8 seems to be 16 trillion..

his 5.7 billion for 200 miles of wall times the wall length he wants times the time required to build it times the ineffectiveness of the wall times the 11 million illegals who live here now and dont intend to leave..

Yes, I would say you left out a great deal the matters, but you did not look beyond the orange con man told.. it would be a wonderful wall,, Biggles image for the nation..

BS...

If we spend the money, lets make it worthwhile.. not toss it in the swamp..
2 trillion time 8 seems to be 16 trillion.. br br... (show quote)


That meme sure shows a lot if baby killers huh? Monster is more apropos.

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Feb 15, 2019 18:18:04   #
JoyV
 
permafrost wrote:
No, we all have pay those taxes.. property tax is my biggest complaint..

you would think that after a certain age, we could all be tax free... LOL

Also have free fishing license.. once upon a time we did in Mn, but I missed that little perk..


If property tax is your biggest complaint, you must not live near the Mexican border. I wrote a letter to Sinema this morning saying that since she voted yea on the omnibus compromise bill; I would send her my yearly repair bills for fencing torn down by illegal aliens, the bills for property damage for each break-in by illegal aliens, the clean-up bill for clearing out the dirty diapers and other trash from my stretch of the San Pedro River, the vet bills for illegal alien gun shot dogs which live and the replacement costs if they are killed. These are the things a price tag can be attached to. A close neighbor being murdered while driving on his ranch, shootouts between CBP, Sheriffs, and illegals on my property, and the restriction of my enjoyment of taking my dogs for a river walk for fear of them or I getting shot; has no price tag. And though a price can definitely be put on the environmental damage BLM, forestry services, and conservation groups put out; it isn't my own cost so they will have to bill her themselves!

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Feb 15, 2019 18:34:32   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
JoyV wrote:
A president can only serve 2 terms. So unless you are starting a push to allow Trump to serve 16 years, why would you multiply the $2 trillion over 2 years under the Trump administration, by 8?


You posted the rise over the 8 years of President Obama serving..

so i did the math for you and made a mistake, but at with an increase of 2 trillion in 2 years, the orange con would add 8 trillion if he were in office that long..

and keep in mind this does not consider the cost of his tax cuts, trade wars, and tariffs on the future..

Tariffs become noteworthy when farmers lose markets and are paid 12 billion per year by the Government..



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