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Feb 14, 2019 10:26:16   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Remind me again... Who appointed Mueller?


"In my capacity as acting Attorney General, I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a Special Counsel to assume responsibility for this matter," Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in a statement.

"My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted. I have made no such determination," Rosenstein continued. "What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command."

"I accept this responsibility and will discharge it to the best of my ability,"

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Feb 14, 2019 10:28:26   #
Canuckus Deploracus Loc: North of the wall
 
padremike wrote:
"In my capacity as acting Attorney General, I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a Special Counsel to assume responsibility for this matter," Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in a statement.

"My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted. I have made no such determination," Rosenstein continued. "What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command."

"I accept this responsibility and will discharge it to the best of my ability,"
"In my capacity as acting Attorney General, I... (show quote)


Thank you...

I was reading a post the other day claiming that Trump had appointed him....

Forgot to look it up...

Hope all is well with you...

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Feb 14, 2019 10:49:58   #
Mikeyavelli
 
padremike wrote:
"In my capacity as acting Attorney General, I determined that it is in the public interest for me to exercise my authority and appoint a Special Counsel to assume responsibility for this matter," Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein said in a statement.

"My decision is not a finding that crimes have been committed or that any prosecution is warranted. I have made no such determination," Rosenstein continued. "What I have determined is that based upon the unique circumstances, the public interest requires me to place this investigation under the authority of a person who exercises a degree of independence from the normal chain of command."

"I accept this responsibility and will discharge it to the best of my ability,"
"In my capacity as acting Attorney General, I... (show quote)

Sounds like Pencilneck Rosenstein is shouldering the blame for appointing a rogue prosecutor to create a crime in the public interest.

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Feb 14, 2019 10:50:04   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
waltmoreno wrote:
Ever heard of RINOs? Mueller’s misdeeds go way back, for decades. He’s been credibly implicated in convicting factually innocent individuals. He was involved in the uranium sale by Hillary to the Russians. Also involved in the use of the phony dossier to the FISA court and surely knew it was fake.
Comey wanted none other than Mueller, his close friend, appointed as special counsel to investigate Trump when he leaked the lies about Trump to the press. If he were impartial he wouldn’t keep wasting our money on his phony witch hunt. $25 million to date and counting.
Ever heard of RINOs? Mueller’s misdeeds go way bac... (show quote)



Walt, you guys work so hard the create fantasy plots for everything you do not like or wish were true..

how about you look at some real life problems.. any of about a dozen international problems, the next 5 years or so of our economy.

the condition of our social safety net, the fairness of coming elections..

Make your own list. Being distracted to worry about a wall vs any other type of border security is what you are intended to do.. find some other subject we have lots of them..



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Feb 14, 2019 10:50:26   #
waltmoreno
 
Canuckus Deploracus wrote:
Remind me again... Who appointed Mueller?


A POS named Rod Rosenstein. Who himself signed off on the FISA warrants to wiretap Trump Tower. And who overlooked loads of evidence of illegal Democrat activity uncovered while serving acting AG after Sessions recused himself. The same Rosenstein who repeatedly refused to hand over subpoenaed documents to Congress, and who threatened to wear a wire during private conversations with Trump in an effort to have him impeached.

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Feb 14, 2019 10:55:41   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
woodguru wrote:
While this is being orchestrated and accomplished on multiple fronts, the biggest thing is being done in front of our faces as the lines are drawn, either in or out...agree with Trump and MAGA or you are the enemy of the country.

In this country we are Americans, as an american we have a voice, a government by the people for the people. It is not okay for a party with diminishing numbers to continue to control government through cheating.

But the worst thing we are seeing is a president that uses the ultimate in divisive language and terms, he calls anyone who doesn't agree with him and his policies the enemy. Media that doesn't agree with him is called false, he literally refers to mainstream media as the enemy of the people.

As president Trump represents all Americans, including the majority that did not vote for him. Those who support him are certainly not special, they do not have super powers of insider knowledge that the rest of Americans do not. It is not okay to selectively set policies that affect one demographic over another, or damage or favor one group over another.

Dems never called the right or republicans the enemy of Americans or the country. What makes this country great is the way we treat all people, including gays and other ethnic groups. The very most important thing to protect in a society is it's minorities, it's weaker groups that don't have a voice.

The words "enemy of the people" are words of division, hatred, and fear, and they result in violence against the perceived enemy. These words can only work once a core group of "the people" has been defined, the people who have an enemy that can be defined.

These are dangerous words, and no president should ever be allowed to spew those words of division. Every single dictator in the world has had a group of supporters, and there are common denominators...
...they are confused as to what the truth in news is about
...the dictator tries to control the message and centralize the "real news"
...supporters are referred to as the elite, the special ones who get it
...everyone who doesn't support the people are the enemy, there comes a time when the enemy of the dictator says enough and the dictator needs the real support of the people

Anyone using their heads will realize that no mainstream news source can possibly be wrong and lying about everything...and when the official state's news source such as FOX is caught wrong about serious things it should give people pause to be a bit more discriminate about what else they might be wrong about. More importantly you need to know that not everyone who disagrees with Trump and his policies is the enemy of Trump supporters or the country.

I have never called any republican including hard right wingers my enemy. I have an awareness of the dynamics of controlling people and influencing their ability to know fact from fiction, and I am not willing to call other Americans the enemy no matter how misguided they are.

This use of the words enemy of the people and america needs to stop. It fuels hatred and violence.
While this is being orchestrated and accomplished ... (show quote)


I disagree. When journalism down grades itself to opinion politics and makes an effort to determine the narrative of the country through it's huge voice in the interwaves, they have become enemies of the people through the promotion of their propaganda, supporting one party/candidate/philosophy over another.

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Feb 14, 2019 11:18:27   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
Walt, you guys work so hard the create fantasy plots for everything you do not like or wish were true..

how about you look at some real life problems.. any of about a dozen international problems, the next 5 years or so of our economy.

the condition of our social safety net, the fairness of coming elections..

Make your own list. Being distracted to worry about a wall vs any other type of border security is what you are intended to do.. find some other subject we have lots of them..
Walt, you guys work so hard the create fantasy plo... (show quote)


25 million criminal illegal aliens already living "illegally" in America and 42 million more reported to be waiting in the wings to see what the Congress will do before they come is not, as you Progressives claim, a mere distraction. You silly Marxist Progressives can't have it both ways. You cannot provide free stuff and have open borders. You'll run out of stuff long before you run out of people. An invasions of this magnitude is a War! We need to declare war on these people, yes on the men, women and children. So Perm, tell us do we shoot them as they sneak across our border into our sovereign nation, or build a wall and include other sophisticated means to stop them? Option two is to open our borders and eventually give them the right to vote. Or a third option, do we declare war between Progressives and Conservatives and take it into the highways and hedges, winner takes all? A real killing civil war?

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Feb 14, 2019 11:24:19   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
I disagree. When journalism down grades itself to opinion politics and makes an effort to determine the narrative of the country through it's huge voice in the interwaves, they have become enemies of the people through the promotion of their propaganda, supporting one party/candidate/philosophy over another.


You better believe they have become the enemy of America. They are promoting insurrection and when it comes they will be destroyed by their own making.

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Feb 14, 2019 11:53:08   #
waltmoreno
 
permafrost wrote:
Walt, you guys work so hard the create fantasy plots for everything you do not like or wish were true..

how about you look at some real life problems.. any of about a dozen international problems, the next 5 years or so of our economy.

the condition of our social safety net, the fairness of coming elections..

Make your own list. Being distracted to worry about a wall vs any other type of border security is what you are intended to do.. find some other subject we have lots of them..
Walt, you guys work so hard the create fantasy plo... (show quote)


You mean I should concern myself with important stuff like climate change, or income inequality, or transgenders in the military? Stuff like that?

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Feb 14, 2019 11:59:55   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
padremike wrote:
25 million criminal illegal aliens already living "illegally" in America and 42 million more reported to be waiting in the wings to see what the Congress will do before they come is not, as you Progressives claim, a mere distraction. You silly Marxist Progressives can't have it both ways. You cannot provide free stuff and have open borders. You'll run out of stuff long before you run out of people. An invasions of this magnitude is a War! We need to declare war on these people, yes on the men, women and children. So Perm, tell us do we shoot them as they sneak across our border into our sovereign nation, or build a wall and include other sophisticated means to stop them? Option two is to open our borders and eventually give them the right to vote. Or a third option, do we declare war between Progressives and Conservatives and take it into the highways and hedges, winner takes all? A real killing civil war?
25 million criminal illegal aliens already living ... (show quote)


Ya know, a cancer invades the body most of the time in a slow and insidious manner. Once discovered, a full on war is engaged and the attempt to eradicate the virus ensues! Do I think that is what we need to do, no. However, we should view the illegal immigration as an invasion, none the less. We should block their entry and eliminate the motivating factors causing them to want to invade.

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Feb 14, 2019 12:03:41   #
Mikeyavelli
 
waltmoreno wrote:
A POS named Rod Rosenstein. Who himself signed off on the FISA warrants to wiretap Trump Tower. And who overlooked loads of evidence of illegal Democrat activity uncovered while serving acting AG after Sessions recused himself. The same Rosenstein who repeatedly refused to hand over subpoenaed documents to Congress, and who threatened to wear a wire during private conversations with Trump in an effort to have him impeached.


And with the new McCabe testimony out today, it's obvious that the intelligence bureaus colluded to remove Trump from office from day One. And Sessions and John Kelly were on board with it!

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Feb 14, 2019 12:13:34   #
permafrost Loc: Minnesota
 
padremike wrote:
25 million criminal illegal aliens already living "illegally" in America and 42 million more reported to be waiting in the wings to see what the Congress will do before they come is not, as you Progressives claim, a mere distraction. You silly Marxist Progressives can't have it both ways. You cannot provide free stuff and have open borders. You'll run out of stuff long before you run out of people. An invasions of this magnitude is a War! We need to declare war on these people, yes on the men, women and children. So Perm, tell us do we shoot them as they sneak across our border into our sovereign nation, or build a wall and include other sophisticated means to stop them? Option two is to open our borders and eventually give them the right to vote. Or a third option, do we declare war between Progressives and Conservatives and take it into the highways and hedges, winner takes all? A real killing civil war?
25 million criminal illegal aliens already living ... (show quote)




Yep, every one of those 25 million, by your count, are guilty of a misdemeanor and should be shot..

so get out your old M-14, hunker down in the high rocks and blast them all.. it is what your truly want to do... do not hold back.. go for it..

Most people know that dems are apposed to the wall, but not to that "sophisticated means" that you mention...

To you on the right it is a our way or no way on every subject that ever comes up..

the wall is not even near any sort of crisis, it has been declining for 20 years.. now only the orange want a wall.. we can do very, very well using other cheaper and better methods that can be curtailed or increased as future need dictate..

Open borders were ended decades ago.. no one has any serious intend to bring them back..

what should be done about all the Farmers declaring bankruptcies??

Should we allow a Canadian company to build more pipelines across our nation??

Do we force aid to Venezuelan with armed force?

What should be the proper approach to NK now? they have done of the things they mentioned in the conversation with trump..

Should we leave our troop in the Congo even if we pull out of Afghanistan??



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Feb 14, 2019 12:18:57   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
Mikeyavelli wrote:
And with the new McCabe testimony out today, it's obvious that the intelligence bureaus colluded to remove Trump from office from day One. And Sessions and John Kelly were on board with it!


The deep state even more revealed!!!!

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Feb 14, 2019 12:21:16   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
permafrost wrote:
Yep, every one of those 25 million, by your count, are guilty of a misdemeanor and should be shot..

so get out your old M-14, hunker down in the high rocks and blast them all.. it is what your truly want to do... do not hold back.. go for it..

Most people know that dems are apposed to the wall, but not to that "sophisticated means" that you mention...

To you on the right it is a our way or no way on every subject that ever comes up..

the wall is not even near any sort of crisis, it has been declining for 20 years.. now only the orange want a wall.. we can do very, very well using other cheaper and better methods that can be curtailed or increased as future need dictate..

Open borders were ended decades ago.. no one has any serious intend to bring them back..

what should be done about all the Farmers declaring bankruptcies??

Should we allow a Canadian company to build more pipelines across our nation??

Do we force aid to Venezuelan with armed force?

What should be the proper approach to NK now? they have done of the things they mentioned in the conversation with trump..

Should we leave our troop in the Congo even if we pull out of Afghanistan??
Yep, every one of those 25 million, by your count,... (show quote)


That's not what he is advocating. And your false equivalencies be damned; they are not related.

And how do you think illegal immigration is declining? Because of declining apprehensions???

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Feb 14, 2019 12:33:29   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
permafrost wrote:
Yep, every one of those 25 million, by your count, are guilty of a misdemeanor and should be shot..

so get out your old M-14, hunker down in the high rocks and blast them all.. it is what your truly want to do... do not hold back.. go for it..

Most people know that dems are apposed to the wall, but not to that "sophisticated means" that you mention...

To you on the right it is a our way or no way on every subject that ever comes up..

the wall is not even near any sort of crisis, it has been declining for 20 years.. now only the orange want a wall.. we can do very, very well using other cheaper and better methods that can be curtailed or increased as future need dictate..

Open borders were ended decades ago.. no one has any serious intend to bring them back..

what should be done about all the Farmers declaring bankruptcies??

Should we allow a Canadian company to build more pipelines across our nation??

Do we force aid to Venezuelan with armed force?

What should be the proper approach to NK now? they have done of the things they mentioned in the conversation with trump..

Should we leave our troop in the Congo even if we pull out of Afghanistan??
Yep, every one of those 25 million, by your count,... (show quote)


First things first! People like you and the rest of your Marxist Progressive mob present the greatest danger America has ever faced. Everything you touch you corrupt. Do I see you as dangerous an enemy as China, Russia or North Korea? Of course not! You're a much greater threat! You're already here and you've corrupted our government! You are the clear and present danger amongst us now! Right now you're vigorously trying to destroy and remove a president without due cause. You've promoted more evil by calling them "rights" and in this process are killing our Constitution! Yes, you better believe you represent the greatest evil we've ever faced and all the while you believe you are actually doing good! We were warned about you a long time ago, people who do evil and call it good!

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