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Feb 5, 2019 02:11:37   #
Trooper745 Loc: Carolina
 
woodguru wrote:
Leftists happen to think that if a woman wants an abortion she can have one, it's her choice. No excuses needed


Conservatives happen to think that if a woman wants an abortion for her convenience, she is committing the murder of her baby for no valid reason. No excuses accepted.

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Feb 5, 2019 02:21:02   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
woodguru wrote:
Leftists happen to think that if a woman wants an abortion she can have one, it's her choice. No excuses needed


Not without a bunch of trouble...and you obviously can't see where this cannibalistic, sociopathic, love of death abortion freaks are pushing will go.

Watch how the pieces move on the board.

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Feb 5, 2019 03:12:32   #
Peewee Loc: San Antonio, TX
 
PeterS wrote:
Such abortions already are legal so how is this is what Democrats are pushing for? The mother's life always takes precedence over a fetus--even if its full term and at the time of delivery. Why you conservatives think this is something new is beyond me but there isn't a doctor alive who will stand by and let a mother die in the hopes of saving a fetus...


But there are many mothers who choose to delay treatment for all kinds of things until her baby is born. You are woefully uninformed. You need to start hanging with better people. The ones who know right from wrong.

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Feb 5, 2019 03:35:30   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
woodguru wrote:
Leftists happen to think that if a woman wants an abortion she can have one, it's her choice. No excuses needed
We're not talking about abortion, we're talking about infanticide.

Progressive socialism is taking us straight to hell.

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Feb 5, 2019 06:40:44   #
Tug484
 
EmilyD wrote:
By Brian Joondeph

Once upon a time, leading Democrats, such as Bill Clinton, wanted abortion to be "safe, legal, and rare." Given the reality of Roe v. Wade and the unlikely prospect of it ever being repealed, this stance on abortion had been the status quo in America for decades.

Nevertheless, abortion remains a thorny political and social issue. Democrats, not following the admonition "perfect is the enemy of the good," have doubled down to the point that reversing Roe is not now so far-fetched. Not satisfied with a contentious truce between the pro- and anti-abortion factions in the U.S., the left wants to rub the noses of most decent Americans into new levels of legalized barbarism.

The latest push from Democrats, perhaps emboldened by winning the House last November, is to make abortion "unsafe, repugnant, and common." Several states, including New York and Virginia, have pushed abortion to the limits of humanity, by legalizing, or attempting to do so, literal infanticide, killing full-term babies up until and including at the time of delivery.

All this in the name of "choice," ignoring the potential choice of the new human being to live – a baby not at all different from the babies filling the newborn nurseries at hospitals across the country.

Late-term abortion, a euphemism for infanticide, at least in the case of recent legislation in several U.S. states, is permitted in seven countries. Only Canada, China, Netherlands, North Korea, Singapore, the U.S., and Vietnam allow elective abortion past 20 weeks, with the Netherlands and Singapore drawing the line at 24 weeks.

Thus, only four countries, aside from the U.S., permit full-term abortions. Two of those countries are China and North Korea. It's interesting that those are the countries Democrats want to emulate.

Why is infanticide cheered by the N.Y. State Assembly, cable news shows, and liberal in general? These are the same people who love to virtue-signal over rescuing abandoned or mistreated animals. Yet where is the same compassion directed toward newborn human beings needing rescue from the last-minute whims of a woman who decides that having a baby is inconvenient to her mental or emotional well-being?

I have two explanations for this push for legalized infanticide. One is economic, and the other is a stepping stone.

Planned Parenthood, the largest U.S. provider of reproductive health (abortion) services, has annual revenue of $1.5 billion. Congress provides the organization with $500 million per year, supported by the previous Republican-controlled Congress. This despite campaign promises to defund Planned Parenthood, uttered along with promises to fund a border wall, both nothing but cheap talk. Imagine if Congress had been spending $500 million per year over decades to build a wall! It would long be built by now.

Planned Parenthood spent over $38 million in 2016 supporting Hillary Clinton and pro-abortion Democrats. At least that is the amount publicly disclosed. Like the unions and other supposed non-profit organizations, Planned Parenthood is a money-laundering operation for Democrats. Taxpayer dollars get washed by these groups and sent back to Democrat candidates. Nothing gets to Republicans, but they seem happy to go along with this scheme.

Abortion is profitable. Aborted babies contain organs, stem cells, and other valuable tissue that can be sold to research companies; organ procurement organizations; and who knows whom else, as Planned Parenthood doesn't talk much about this – unless its staffers are caught on an undercover video.

More revenue means more contributions to candidates willing to keep abortion legal and common. Follow the money – plenty of five-figure donations to Democrat members of Congress. These are direct contributions, not money spent on outside organizations campaigning for Democrats and their pet issues.

My other theory is that this is a stepping stone. Once infanticide is legalized, state by state, it soon becomes acceptable to America and is the new norm. This is much like the analogy of slowly boiling a frog. The temperature rises slowly enough that the frog doesn't realize that it is cooking until it is too late. Is that what is happening with this push to eliminate inconvenient babies?

Who else in society may be inconvenient? Perhaps the elderly, the disabled, and the infirm, those not contributing to society, not paying taxes, instead acting as a drain on government dollars that could be spent more productively, at least according to the views of many in the ruling class.

Aside from full-term abortion, what else are Democrats pushing these days? Medicare (actually Medicaid or worse) for all. Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex, and others want a full government takeover of health care in the U.S., eliminating private insurance, allowing unaccountable government bureaucrats to decide who gets what treatment and when.

A small group of people account for significant medical spending. Specifically, "30% of all Medicare expenditures are attributed to the 5% of beneficiaries that die each year, with 1/3 of that cost occurring in the last month of life." Imagine being able to cut these costs from the budget!

It's actually on both ends of the spectrum: newborns with serious health problems and the elderly with their own health needs. In my world, patients with macular degeneration in both eyes requiring a monthly injection of medication costing $2,000 can cost Medicare $50,000 per year. That's just for their retina condition. They may have heart or respiratory problems, too, requiring expensive medications and hospitalizations.

These individuals, and many more including the disabled, are collecting Social Security each month and not working, not paying into the system. They are only an expense for the ruling class, whose members believe that the federal treasury is theirs to spend as they deem.

Children may be born with Down syndrome or other genetic disorders, spina bifida, clubfoot, and other infirmities that are costly to manage. How much money could be saved and put toward government-paid preschool for healthy kids who need little more than an annual physical and vaccinations?

If only these expensive patients went away, there would be more money available to fund a single-payer system, which would otherwise be unaffordable, as currently proposed by Bernie Sanders and others. What if that's the next step?

Once the public is comfortably numb killing newborn babies, how much easier will it be to justify killing already born infants with severe birth defects or other illnesses not manifest until after birth? Or denying medical care to the elderly under the guise of compassion? Far-fetched? Ask the last president.

When President Obama was asked about a 100-year-old woman who needed a pacemaker, he thought she would be "better off not having the surgery, but taking a painkiller" instead.

Is this what society is being prepped for with the recent abortion debate? When life at one end of the age spectrum is being cheapened and becomes disposable, life cheapens at the other end of the spectrum, and many places in between.

Just remember that Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger, had as a goal the sterilization of "morons, mental defectives, epileptics." Other "undesirables" would have to choose between forced sterilization and concentration camps, including "illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope-fiends." Legalized eugenics.

In a bit of irony, it was Sanger who said, "We don't want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population" and eagerly spoke to the KKK. Her modern-day counterpart, Governor Northam of Virginia, is having his own Sanger moment after speaking casually about full-term abortion and dealing with the fallout of his medical school yearbook photos showing him in either blackface or KKK robes.

Is the recent push for full-term abortions simply Democrats flexing their perceived muscle? Or is it to fill campaign coffers for upcoming elections? Or, far worse, are we on the slippery slope to a dystopian society where Big Brother decides who lives and who dies?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/02/infanticide_abortion_may_be_only_the_beginning.html
By Brian Joondeph br br Once upon a time, leading... (show quote)


First the babies, then the disabled,then the old.

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Feb 5, 2019 06:54:21   #
badbob85037
 
EmilyD wrote:
By Brian Joondeph

Once upon a time, leading Democrats, such as Bill Clinton, wanted abortion to be "safe, legal, and rare." Given the reality of Roe v. Wade and the unlikely prospect of it ever being repealed, this stance on abortion had been the status quo in America for decades.

Nevertheless, abortion remains a thorny political and social issue. Democrats, not following the admonition "perfect is the enemy of the good," have doubled down to the point that reversing Roe is not now so far-fetched. Not satisfied with a contentious truce between the pro- and anti-abortion factions in the U.S., the left wants to rub the noses of most decent Americans into new levels of legalized barbarism.

The latest push from Democrats, perhaps emboldened by winning the House last November, is to make abortion "unsafe, repugnant, and common." Several states, including New York and Virginia, have pushed abortion to the limits of humanity, by legalizing, or attempting to do so, literal infanticide, killing full-term babies up until and including at the time of delivery.

All this in the name of "choice," ignoring the potential choice of the new human being to live – a baby not at all different from the babies filling the newborn nurseries at hospitals across the country.

Late-term abortion, a euphemism for infanticide, at least in the case of recent legislation in several U.S. states, is permitted in seven countries. Only Canada, China, Netherlands, North Korea, Singapore, the U.S., and Vietnam allow elective abortion past 20 weeks, with the Netherlands and Singapore drawing the line at 24 weeks.

Thus, only four countries, aside from the U.S., permit full-term abortions. Two of those countries are China and North Korea. It's interesting that those are the countries Democrats want to emulate.

Why is infanticide cheered by the N.Y. State Assembly, cable news shows, and liberal in general? These are the same people who love to virtue-signal over rescuing abandoned or mistreated animals. Yet where is the same compassion directed toward newborn human beings needing rescue from the last-minute whims of a woman who decides that having a baby is inconvenient to her mental or emotional well-being?

I have two explanations for this push for legalized infanticide. One is economic, and the other is a stepping stone.

Planned Parenthood, the largest U.S. provider of reproductive health (abortion) services, has annual revenue of $1.5 billion. Congress provides the organization with $500 million per year, supported by the previous Republican-controlled Congress. This despite campaign promises to defund Planned Parenthood, uttered along with promises to fund a border wall, both nothing but cheap talk. Imagine if Congress had been spending $500 million per year over decades to build a wall! It would long be built by now.

Planned Parenthood spent over $38 million in 2016 supporting Hillary Clinton and pro-abortion Democrats. At least that is the amount publicly disclosed. Like the unions and other supposed non-profit organizations, Planned Parenthood is a money-laundering operation for Democrats. Taxpayer dollars get washed by these groups and sent back to Democrat candidates. Nothing gets to Republicans, but they seem happy to go along with this scheme.

Abortion is profitable. Aborted babies contain organs, stem cells, and other valuable tissue that can be sold to research companies; organ procurement organizations; and who knows whom else, as Planned Parenthood doesn't talk much about this – unless its staffers are caught on an undercover video.

More revenue means more contributions to candidates willing to keep abortion legal and common. Follow the money – plenty of five-figure donations to Democrat members of Congress. These are direct contributions, not money spent on outside organizations campaigning for Democrats and their pet issues.

My other theory is that this is a stepping stone. Once infanticide is legalized, state by state, it soon becomes acceptable to America and is the new norm. This is much like the analogy of slowly boiling a frog. The temperature rises slowly enough that the frog doesn't realize that it is cooking until it is too late. Is that what is happening with this push to eliminate inconvenient babies?

Who else in society may be inconvenient? Perhaps the elderly, the disabled, and the infirm, those not contributing to society, not paying taxes, instead acting as a drain on government dollars that could be spent more productively, at least according to the views of many in the ruling class.

Aside from full-term abortion, what else are Democrats pushing these days? Medicare (actually Medicaid or worse) for all. Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex, and others want a full government takeover of health care in the U.S., eliminating private insurance, allowing unaccountable government bureaucrats to decide who gets what treatment and when.

A small group of people account for significant medical spending. Specifically, "30% of all Medicare expenditures are attributed to the 5% of beneficiaries that die each year, with 1/3 of that cost occurring in the last month of life." Imagine being able to cut these costs from the budget!

It's actually on both ends of the spectrum: newborns with serious health problems and the elderly with their own health needs. In my world, patients with macular degeneration in both eyes requiring a monthly injection of medication costing $2,000 can cost Medicare $50,000 per year. That's just for their retina condition. They may have heart or respiratory problems, too, requiring expensive medications and hospitalizations.

These individuals, and many more including the disabled, are collecting Social Security each month and not working, not paying into the system. They are only an expense for the ruling class, whose members believe that the federal treasury is theirs to spend as they deem.

Children may be born with Down syndrome or other genetic disorders, spina bifida, clubfoot, and other infirmities that are costly to manage. How much money could be saved and put toward government-paid preschool for healthy kids who need little more than an annual physical and vaccinations?

If only these expensive patients went away, there would be more money available to fund a single-payer system, which would otherwise be unaffordable, as currently proposed by Bernie Sanders and others. What if that's the next step?

Once the public is comfortably numb killing newborn babies, how much easier will it be to justify killing already born infants with severe birth defects or other illnesses not manifest until after birth? Or denying medical care to the elderly under the guise of compassion? Far-fetched? Ask the last president.

When President Obama was asked about a 100-year-old woman who needed a pacemaker, he thought she would be "better off not having the surgery, but taking a painkiller" instead.

Is this what society is being prepped for with the recent abortion debate? When life at one end of the age spectrum is being cheapened and becomes disposable, life cheapens at the other end of the spectrum, and many places in between.

Just remember that Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger, had as a goal the sterilization of "morons, mental defectives, epileptics." Other "undesirables" would have to choose between forced sterilization and concentration camps, including "illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope-fiends." Legalized eugenics.

In a bit of irony, it was Sanger who said, "We don't want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population" and eagerly spoke to the KKK. Her modern-day counterpart, Governor Northam of Virginia, is having his own Sanger moment after speaking casually about full-term abortion and dealing with the fallout of his medical school yearbook photos showing him in either blackface or KKK robes.

Is the recent push for full-term abortions simply Democrats flexing their perceived muscle? Or is it to fill campaign coffers for upcoming elections? Or, far worse, are we on the slippery slope to a dystopian society where Big Brother decides who lives and who dies?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/02/infanticide_abortion_may_be_only_the_beginning.html
By Brian Joondeph br br Once upon a time, leading... (show quote)


When obama was a state representative a law was brought to a vote. It was to stop the practice of leaving babies born with their hearts beating and breathing air to die, denying them food, water, or any care. An army of nurses testified at a hearing on how hard it was watching these babies die. Some tossed in the dumpster, one thrown onto a Plan Parenthood roof.

Obama voted twice against this bill. A third time he was in a position to kill the bill before it reached the floor for a vote. A bill with the same wording reached the Federal level. Not one republican, not one independent, not one democrat, or socialist voted to keep murdering the most helpless and innocent of us all. Obama is no Muslim or Christian. He is his own God killing thousands of new born to the cheers of demoncrats. 4 genocides he has gotten away with. Three of them thanks to an enabling, worthless, just as guilty, republican congress. and the completely worthless self serving idiots like in the photos below that elect them.







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Feb 5, 2019 08:00:08   #
Carl foster
 
The idea that a healthy full term baby has to be killed to save a mothers life is medical nonsense. I watched a OB/GYN last week who has delivered over 2,500 babies. After he listed dangerous conditions the mother might have, he explained that NONE of them would be changed by killing a healthy baby. If natural delivery was not possible a c- section would be done to save the baby, again having no effect on the maternal condition. This idea that a full term baby is somehow less valuable a human than a mother is just ignorant or worse, evil.

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Feb 5, 2019 10:00:12   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
EmilyD wrote:
By Brian Joondeph

Once upon a time, leading Democrats, such as Bill Clinton, wanted abortion to be "safe, legal, and rare." Given the reality of Roe v. Wade and the unlikely prospect of it ever being repealed, this stance on abortion had been the status quo in America for decades.

Nevertheless, abortion remains a thorny political and social issue. Democrats, not following the admonition "perfect is the enemy of the good," have doubled down to the point that reversing Roe is not now so far-fetched. Not satisfied with a contentious truce between the pro- and anti-abortion factions in the U.S., the left wants to rub the noses of most decent Americans into new levels of legalized barbarism.

The latest push from Democrats, perhaps emboldened by winning the House last November, is to make abortion "unsafe, repugnant, and common." Several states, including New York and Virginia, have pushed abortion to the limits of humanity, by legalizing, or attempting to do so, literal infanticide, killing full-term babies up until and including at the time of delivery.

All this in the name of "choice," ignoring the potential choice of the new human being to live – a baby not at all different from the babies filling the newborn nurseries at hospitals across the country.

Late-term abortion, a euphemism for infanticide, at least in the case of recent legislation in several U.S. states, is permitted in seven countries. Only Canada, China, Netherlands, North Korea, Singapore, the U.S., and Vietnam allow elective abortion past 20 weeks, with the Netherlands and Singapore drawing the line at 24 weeks.

Thus, only four countries, aside from the U.S., permit full-term abortions. Two of those countries are China and North Korea. It's interesting that those are the countries Democrats want to emulate.

Why is infanticide cheered by the N.Y. State Assembly, cable news shows, and liberal in general? These are the same people who love to virtue-signal over rescuing abandoned or mistreated animals. Yet where is the same compassion directed toward newborn human beings needing rescue from the last-minute whims of a woman who decides that having a baby is inconvenient to her mental or emotional well-being?

I have two explanations for this push for legalized infanticide. One is economic, and the other is a stepping stone.

Planned Parenthood, the largest U.S. provider of reproductive health (abortion) services, has annual revenue of $1.5 billion. Congress provides the organization with $500 million per year, supported by the previous Republican-controlled Congress. This despite campaign promises to defund Planned Parenthood, uttered along with promises to fund a border wall, both nothing but cheap talk. Imagine if Congress had been spending $500 million per year over decades to build a wall! It would long be built by now.

Planned Parenthood spent over $38 million in 2016 supporting Hillary Clinton and pro-abortion Democrats. At least that is the amount publicly disclosed. Like the unions and other supposed non-profit organizations, Planned Parenthood is a money-laundering operation for Democrats. Taxpayer dollars get washed by these groups and sent back to Democrat candidates. Nothing gets to Republicans, but they seem happy to go along with this scheme.

Abortion is profitable. Aborted babies contain organs, stem cells, and other valuable tissue that can be sold to research companies; organ procurement organizations; and who knows whom else, as Planned Parenthood doesn't talk much about this – unless its staffers are caught on an undercover video.

More revenue means more contributions to candidates willing to keep abortion legal and common. Follow the money – plenty of five-figure donations to Democrat members of Congress. These are direct contributions, not money spent on outside organizations campaigning for Democrats and their pet issues.

My other theory is that this is a stepping stone. Once infanticide is legalized, state by state, it soon becomes acceptable to America and is the new norm. This is much like the analogy of slowly boiling a frog. The temperature rises slowly enough that the frog doesn't realize that it is cooking until it is too late. Is that what is happening with this push to eliminate inconvenient babies?

Who else in society may be inconvenient? Perhaps the elderly, the disabled, and the infirm, those not contributing to society, not paying taxes, instead acting as a drain on government dollars that could be spent more productively, at least according to the views of many in the ruling class.

Aside from full-term abortion, what else are Democrats pushing these days? Medicare (actually Medicaid or worse) for all. Bernie Sanders, Kamala Harris, Alexandria Occasional-Cortex, and others want a full government takeover of health care in the U.S., eliminating private insurance, allowing unaccountable government bureaucrats to decide who gets what treatment and when.

A small group of people account for significant medical spending. Specifically, "30% of all Medicare expenditures are attributed to the 5% of beneficiaries that die each year, with 1/3 of that cost occurring in the last month of life." Imagine being able to cut these costs from the budget!

It's actually on both ends of the spectrum: newborns with serious health problems and the elderly with their own health needs. In my world, patients with macular degeneration in both eyes requiring a monthly injection of medication costing $2,000 can cost Medicare $50,000 per year. That's just for their retina condition. They may have heart or respiratory problems, too, requiring expensive medications and hospitalizations.

These individuals, and many more including the disabled, are collecting Social Security each month and not working, not paying into the system. They are only an expense for the ruling class, whose members believe that the federal treasury is theirs to spend as they deem.

Children may be born with Down syndrome or other genetic disorders, spina bifida, clubfoot, and other infirmities that are costly to manage. How much money could be saved and put toward government-paid preschool for healthy kids who need little more than an annual physical and vaccinations?

If only these expensive patients went away, there would be more money available to fund a single-payer system, which would otherwise be unaffordable, as currently proposed by Bernie Sanders and others. What if that's the next step?

Once the public is comfortably numb killing newborn babies, how much easier will it be to justify killing already born infants with severe birth defects or other illnesses not manifest until after birth? Or denying medical care to the elderly under the guise of compassion? Far-fetched? Ask the last president.

When President Obama was asked about a 100-year-old woman who needed a pacemaker, he thought she would be "better off not having the surgery, but taking a painkiller" instead.

Is this what society is being prepped for with the recent abortion debate? When life at one end of the age spectrum is being cheapened and becomes disposable, life cheapens at the other end of the spectrum, and many places in between.

Just remember that Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger, had as a goal the sterilization of "morons, mental defectives, epileptics." Other "undesirables" would have to choose between forced sterilization and concentration camps, including "illiterates, paupers, unemployables, criminals, prostitutes, dope-fiends." Legalized eugenics.

In a bit of irony, it was Sanger who said, "We don't want the word to get out that we want to exterminate the Negro population" and eagerly spoke to the KKK. Her modern-day counterpart, Governor Northam of Virginia, is having his own Sanger moment after speaking casually about full-term abortion and dealing with the fallout of his medical school yearbook photos showing him in either blackface or KKK robes.

Is the recent push for full-term abortions simply Democrats flexing their perceived muscle? Or is it to fill campaign coffers for upcoming elections? Or, far worse, are we on the slippery slope to a dystopian society where Big Brother decides who lives and who dies?

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/02/infanticide_abortion_may_be_only_the_beginning.html
By Brian Joondeph br br Once upon a time, leading... (show quote)


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Feb 5, 2019 10:02:12   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Tug484 wrote:
First the babies, then the disabled,then the old.



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Feb 5, 2019 10:19:51   #
Jakebrake Loc: Broomfield, CO
 
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Feb 5, 2019 11:31:22   #
solarkin
 
PeterS wrote:
Such abortions already are legal so how is this is what Democrats are pushing for? The mother's life always takes precedence over a fetus--even if its full term and at the time of delivery. Why you conservatives think this is something new is beyond me but there isn't a doctor alive who will stand by and let a mother die in the hopes of saving a fetus...


You're leaving out the part of "emotional ,or mental health" Basically ,anything goes now.

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Feb 5, 2019 11:38:07   #
Liberty Tree
 
woodguru wrote:
There's no real money in abortions...now cancer or opioids, there's the real money


Without abortion money PP would be out of business.

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Feb 5, 2019 11:40:33   #
Liberty Tree
 
PeterS wrote:
Such abortions already are legal so how is this is what Democrats are pushing for? The mother's life always takes precedence over a fetus--even if its full term and at the time of delivery. Why you conservatives think this is something new is beyond me but there isn't a doctor alive who will stand by and let a mother die in the hopes of saving a fetus...


The term used often is mother's health in danger, which means anytime a woman wants an abortion the doctor can say her health is in danger for any reason he wants to use.

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Feb 5, 2019 11:41:56   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
solarkin wrote:
You're leaving out the part of "emotional ,or mental health" Basically ,anything goes now.


You don't have any respect for doctors do ya.

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Feb 5, 2019 11:49:35   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Liberty Tree wrote:
Without abortion money PP would be out of business.


More BS

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