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Border Agent's Union Says It's A Lie That They Support The Shutdown...They Do Not
Jan 16, 2019 14:35:52   #
woodguru
 
https://dmlnews.com/report-federal-workers-head-says-border-patrol-agents-voicing-complaints-working-without-pay/

So much for the idea that federal workers support this, if border agents don't nobody does.

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Jan 16, 2019 14:46:08   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
woodguru wrote:
https://dmlnews.com/report-federal-workers-head-says-border-patrol-agents-voicing-complaints-working-without-pay/

So much for the idea that federal workers support this, if border agents don't nobody does.


So much for your BS that Border Agents dont support Border Wall

https://immigrationreform.com/2019/01/08/border-patrol-chief-makes-it-clear-we-need-the-wall-immigrationreform-com/

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Jan 16, 2019 15:02:20   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:


Amen and Amen

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Jan 16, 2019 15:59:41   #
woodguru
 
proud republican wrote:


Chiefs rarely speak for the union workers as they are management

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Jan 16, 2019 16:05:57   #
bahmer
 
woodguru wrote:
Chiefs rarely speak for the union workers as they are management


Chiefs will not knowingly let their union workers I.E, Ice and border security etc keep getting killed either or in short order they would be with out workers and therefore without jobs as well. Think ahead a litlle wood you wood glue.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:41:18   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
proud republican wrote:



The wall shown in your article hasn't kept many out, way too easy to climb especially with the hand grips mounted to mount those warnings onto, the warnings that are ALL crooked due to being a semi-stable foothold for them to stand on as they swing one leg over the wall. That wall is easy to climb for even the not so athletically inclined, perhaps they should have shown a picture of a wall that isn't so frequently climbed over.

The wall that Trump is leaning towards isn't as easily climbed, though it has been shown to be somewhat easy to cut through and as shown, is NOT insurmountable and lest we forget, in areas where there are border walls in place, many tunnels have been dug, kinda like a large scale version of that Whack-a-Mole game, maybe the border patrol calls it "Whack-an-Immigrant".


Border walls by themselves are not all too effective, there MUST be higher tech detection in place as well. Trump has offered higher tech devices to go with the wall but ONLY at entry points, while perhaps entry points need upgraded equipment as well, that is for border patrol to answer, but we need high tech devices ALL along the border to detect breaches/attempts at breaching. Unless that is included, I can't support the wall.

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Jan 16, 2019 18:49:06   #
proud republican Loc: RED CALIFORNIA
 
Common_Sense_Matters wrote:
The wall shown in your article hasn't kept many out, way too easy to climb especially with the hand grips mounted to mount those warnings onto, the warnings that are ALL crooked due to being a semi-stable foothold for them to stand on as they swing one leg over the wall. That wall is easy to climb for even the not so athletically inclined, perhaps they should have shown a picture of a wall that isn't so frequently climbed over.

The wall that Trump is leaning towards isn't as easily climbed, though it has been shown to be somewhat easy to cut through and as shown, is NOT insurmountable and lest we forget, in areas where there are border walls in place, many tunnels have been dug, kinda like a large scale version of that Whack-a-Mole game, maybe the border patrol calls it "Whack-an-Immigrant"


Border walls by themselves are not all too effective, there MUST be higher tech detection in place as well. Trump has offered higher tech devices to go with the wall but ONLY at entry points, while perhaps entry points need upgraded equipment as well, that is for border patrol to answer, but we need high tech devices ALL along the border to detect breaches/attempts at breaching. Unless that is included, I can't support the wall.
The wall shown in your article hasn't kept many ou... (show quote)


He didnt only talked about Wall...Wall is only one aspect of our Border Security...He also talked about high tech devices, more immigration judges,more beds for families seeking asylum,more med personnel...He talked about all of it...But we DO need steel Barrier/Wall whatever you want to call it....Only Dems dont even want to discuss it...Border Agents...all of them say that they need Barriers in addition to all that i said above!!!!....They need to stop playing this game Who Blinks First!!!!

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Jan 16, 2019 18:52:35   #
bahmer
 
proud republican wrote:
He didnt only talked about Wall...Wall is only one aspect of our Border Security...He also talked about high tech devices, more immigration judges,more beds for families seeking asylum,more med personnel...He talked about all of it...But we DO need steel Barrier/Wall whatever you want to call it....Only Dems dont even want to discuss it...Border Agents...all of them say that they need Barriers in addition to all that i said above!!!!....They need to stop playing this game Who Blinks First!!!!


Amen and Amen

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Jan 16, 2019 18:56:18   #
Common_Sense_Matters
 
proud republican wrote:
He didnt only talked about Wall...Wall is only one aspect of our Border Security...He also talked about high tech devices, more immigration judges,more beds for families seeking asylum,more med personnel...He talked about all of it...But we DO need steel Barrier/Wall whatever you want to call it....Only Dems dont even want to discuss it...Border Agents...all of them say that they need Barriers in addition to all that i said above!!!!....They need to stop playing this game Who Blinks First!!!!


Trumps own words, where he speaks on high tech devices, he says for entry points, while I won't question whether they need upgraded equipment at entry points, he has not offered high tech devices along the length of the wall. That is where high tech detection is needed, entry points have agents present that can see what is going on around them, walls lack the eyes to do the same.

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Jan 17, 2019 10:46:11   #
free believer
 
I agree; ports of entry need to be upgraded with advanced electronic surveillance but this also applies to barriers placed elsewhere.

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Jan 19, 2019 09:17:12   #
free believer
 
President Trump offers a whole variety of improvements to border security, but when he gets down to brass tacks he seems to ignore all those improvements and returns to solely stating " THE WALL ". It leads one to think that is his only desire for the funding...

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