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The Surprising Sayings of Jesus Christ 'Many False Prophets Will Arise and Deceive Many'
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Dec 9, 2018 19:35:45   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Geezzz, whyever would you feel compelled to suggest that - - is "t" YOUR god ???

He CERTAINLY is NOT mine, but I would never feel the need to assert that in an ID with a jerk proven to be a liar liar, pants on fire, even if he hoodwinked most of the evangelicals to put him in the WH...

What does Trump have to do with what I posted?

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Dec 9, 2018 19:44:40   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Succinct does not equate to accurate...

As far as proof goes, it's neither very logical nor mindful of you to use scripture in order to try to prove scripture, particularly to non-believers...

Of course you cannot understand what I say because you're a natural man. But first concerning scripture proving scripture...

By the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established. Deuteronomy 19:15b

Concerning you being a natural man...

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

These will be the last nuggets I give you.

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Dec 9, 2018 19:50:45   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Of course you cannot understand what I say because you're a natural man. But first concerning scripture proving scripture...

By the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established. Deuteronomy 19:15b

Concerning you being a natural man...

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

These will be the last nuggets I give you.
Of course you cannot understand what I say because... (show quote)



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Dec 9, 2018 19:53:11   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
Bad Bob wrote:

Thanks for proving my point BB.

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Dec 9, 2018 19:55:50   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
mwdegutis wrote:
What does Trump have to do with what I posted?

Only EVERYTHING - - obviously, the "t" in my ID clearly stands for the iggit DJT - - if you're going to suggest an ID change that includes that letter "t" (YOU wrote: Maybe you should change your name tNotMyGod?) - - it's only logic to conclude what the "t" stands for.

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Dec 9, 2018 20:01:25   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
mwdegutis wrote:
Of course you cannot understand what I say because you're a natural man. But first concerning scripture proving scripture...

By the mouth of two or three witnesses the matter shall be established. Deuteronomy 19:15b

Concerning you being a natural man...

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 1 Corinthians 2:14

These will be the last nuggets I give you.
Of course you cannot understand what I say because... (show quote)

Amazing - - you seem to be only able to address "scripture proving scripture" by continuing to assert that "scripture proves scripture"...

PLEASE keep your nuggets for yourself - - you are so unbelievably narrow in your viewpoint that your nuggets might as well be lead - - that's like the kind of balloon they're going over as.

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Dec 9, 2018 20:10:47   #
mwdegutis Loc: Illinois
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Amazing - - you seem to be only able to address "scripture proving scripture" by continuing to assert that "scripture proves scripture"...

PLEASE keep your nuggets for yourself - - you are so unbelievably narrow in your viewpoint that your nuggets might as well be lead - - that's like the kind of balloon they're going over as.

One last nugget then I shake the dust from my feet and leave you to your own devices. It's a waste of my time to throw pearls before swine.

[Jesus said] “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. Matthew 15:18-19

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Dec 9, 2018 20:42:22   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
mwdegutis wrote:
One last nugget then I shake the dust from my feet and leave you to your own devices. It's a waste of my time to throw pearls before swine.

[Jesus said] “If the world hates you, you know that it has hated Me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, because of this the world hates you. Matthew 15:18-19

Well, Mr. Arrogant, I think you should reconsider that in the context of your own beliefs, sir - - it's not very christian of you to judge my knowledge or level of consciousness...

Matthew 7:1-3 Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Furthermore, I'm guessing that you mean the old "pearls before swine" comment as a derogatory slur, but it won't work in my case, cuz I just LOVE piggies.

Oh, and your pearls are about as meaningful as your nuggets...



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Dec 10, 2018 09:12:35   #
Rose42
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
Amazing - - you seem to be only able to address "scripture proving scripture" by continuing to assert that "scripture proves scripture"...

PLEASE keep your nuggets for yourself - - you are so unbelievably narrow in your viewpoint that your nuggets might as well be lead - - that's like the kind of balloon they're going over as.


The Bible is the most examined book in history and it stands up to that scrutiny. Answersingenesis.org has some good info.

Have you ever read The Case for Christ? The author tried to prove Christ didn't exist.

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Dec 10, 2018 09:45:20   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
Rose42 wrote:
The Bible is the most examined book in history and it stands up to that scrutiny. Answersingenesis.org has some good info.

Have you ever read The Case for Christ? The author tried to prove Christ didn't exist.



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Dec 10, 2018 13:26:51   #
jack sequim wa Loc: Blanchard, Idaho
 
Rose42 wrote:
The Bible is the most examined book in history and it stands up to that scrutiny. Answersingenesis.org has some good info.

Have you ever read The Case for Christ? The author tried to prove Christ didn't exist.



There is an excellent one Josh McDowell "Evidence That Demands a Verdict"
Multiple PHD's traveled the world hell bent on proving the Bible a fairy tale that includes some history. It is written in scholarly terms not easy to understand for those not possessing higher math. He used the standard of evidence used in our courts, ending in him becoming a Christian.

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Dec 10, 2018 13:31:57   #
Bad Bob Loc: Virginia
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
There is an excellent one Josh McDowell "Evidence That Demands a Verdict"
Multiple PHD's traveled the world hell bent on proving the Bible a fairy tale that includes some history. It is written in scholarly terms not easy to understand for those not possessing higher math. He used the standard of evidence used in our courts, ending in him becoming a Christian.


Went nuts?

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Dec 10, 2018 13:37:30   #
Rose42
 
jack sequim wa wrote:
There is an excellent one Josh McDowell "Evidence That Demands a Verdict"
Multiple PHD's traveled the world hell bent on proving the Bible a fairy tale that includes some history. It is written in scholarly terms not easy to understand for those not possessing higher math. He used the standard of evidence used in our courts, ending in him becoming a Christian.


I haven't seen that one. Will have to check it out.

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Dec 10, 2018 14:45:57   #
tNotMyPrez Loc: So. CA, USA
 
Rose42 wrote:
The Bible is the most examined book in history and it stands up to that scrutiny. Answersingenesis.org has some good info.

Have you ever read The Case for Christ? The author tried to prove Christ didn't exist.

The bible was written, evaluated, and assembled BY men, FOR men. Certainly there can be some historical validations, but there are also cultural contexts as well as parables and metaphors.

The CLAIMS that the bible is the word of god is taken on faith by believers - - regardless of any "scrutinizing", it's still subject to the beliefs and interpretations of Earth-bound people - - no one can use the bible or scriptures to "prove" religion, the bible or scriptures.

As far as Christ - - please don't confuse history with belief. It's very likely that Jesus existed, but that doesn't mean that he was The Christ or the Christ Consciousness.

The inability to prove a negative absolutely does not prove the positive (reverse) premise.

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Dec 10, 2018 14:51:28   #
Rose42
 
tNotMyPrez wrote:
The bible was written, evaluated, and assembled BY men, FOR men. Certainly there can be some historical validations, but there are also cultural contexts as well as parables and metaphors.

The CLAIMS that the bible is the word of god is taken on faith by believers - - regardless of any "scrutinizing", it's still subject to the beliefs and interpretations of Earth-bound people - - no one can use the bible or scriptures to "prove" religion, the bible or scriptures.

As far as Christ - - please don't confuse history with belief. It's very likely that Jesus existed, but that doesn't mean that he was The Christ or the Christ Consciousness.

The inability to prove a negative absolutely does not prove the positive (reverse) premise.
The bible was written, evaluated, and assembled b... (show quote)


That is your belief. One day you will find out what is correct.

There is no plausible explanation for the complexities of the universe and life.

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