Whereas most people have a universal understanding that facts should generally be accepted true until disproven, Trump supporters see scientists, doctors, reporters, historians, mathematicians, statisticians, and economists, not as arbiters of fact and fiction, but as partisan hacks, all on George Soros’ payroll, spewing anti-Trump lies, designed to make America crummy.
Therefore, any presentation of factual information to a Trump supporter will instantly trigger a massive reflexive recoil, as though you’ve just tossed an angry rattlesnake in his lap. His response will be instantaneous, indignantly pointing out the Soros connection that you missed, and laughing out loud (LOL’ing) at your childish naivety and lack of understanding the real world. Using facts is not only a no-win tactic, we normals actually lose the argument because, obviously, we’re chumps who don’t understand what’s really going on.
The second rule of talking sense to Trump supporters is that you cannot discuss Trump’s promises or policies and how they will adversely affect the Trump supporters. We normals see Trump’s signature health care and tax bills, and his billionaire, CEO, banker, and corporate lobbyist cabinet picks, for what they are, political tools designed to help the wealthy and their corporations, at the expense of the poor and middle classes. We see his many broken promises and outright reversals as meaningless campaign rhetoric intended to sucker voters into thinking Trump really cared about their tiny little lives. But Trump supporters don’t really know, much less, understand what his policies are. Heck, even Trump doesn’t know what they are, admitting last week: “I don’t stand by anything.”

To his supporters, Trump truly moves in mysterious ways. No matter the travail, they remain ever faithful, wearing their inexplicable steadfastness as a badge of honor. Biblical Job didn’t get an explanation from God for all his heartaches, so why should they be so presumptuous?
So with customary conversation starters off the table, you may feel limited, like the Trump supporters themselves, to exclusively using ad hominem attacks. But I’d like to expand your universe: Use their “alternative facts” against them. Just make up some bizarre, “alt-truth” concept, tell your target that Trump said it, and make him defend that.
Heck, find queasy quotes from Hitler or Stalin, say they’re from Trump, and demand an immediate, full explanation. Obviously, Trump supporters never look anything up, so have fun.

Yes, I'll use the acronym LoL, LMAO at your diatribe. Yes BBZ, you are bitter. You see, the liberals, like yourself, use the Saul Alinsky rules. Yeah BBZ, the liberals, progressives, Democrats ( all the same, just different names) first job is to create the issues or problems but never fix them, just bounce off them. It seems, you, are alluding to Tump supporters of the use of facts. It's a strange thing though, when facts present themselves to liberals, they, the liberals, change the subject and move on to something else.

It appears all that you said doesn't hold water BB Z, your liberalism compatriots, your ilk as they are, started all this after Trump was elected, THEY STARTED IT! It's progressed to the point, that, it's become convoluted even to yourself.

All one has to do is, LOOK at the MO of the progressives, watch the following liberals nod their heads, much like your self. Yes BBZ, you've been had my friend, though you don't know it, you have been had. Unless of course, you are truly one of THEM,

The Saul Alinsky "rules for radicals" applies the way you defend BBZ. straight out of the Rules for radicals by: Saul Alinsky. People just need to read his book to understand the MO of the left today and of the past behaviors of Progressives.

Whereas most people have a universal understanding that facts should generally bb linkkme accepted true until disproven, Trump supporters see scientists, doctors, reporters, historians, mathematicians, statisticians, and economists, not as arbiters of fact and fiction, but as partisan hacks, all on George Soros’ payroll, spewing anti-Trump lies, designed to make America crummy.
Therefore, any presentation of factual information to a Trump supporter will instantly trigger a massive reflexive recoil, as though you’ve just tossed an angry rattlesnake in his lap. His response will be instantaneous, indignantly pointing out the Soros connection that you missed, and laughing out loud (LOL’ing) at your childish naivety and lack of understanding the real world. Using facts is not only a no-win tactic, we normals actually lose the argument because, obviously, we’re chumps who don’t understand what’s really going on.
The second rule of talking sense to Trump supporters is that you cannot discuss Trump’s promises or policies and how they will adversely affect the Trump supporters. We normals see Trump’s signature health care and tax bills, and his billionaire, CEO, banker, and corporate lobbyist cabinet picks, for what they are, political tools designed to help the wealthy and their corporations, at the expense of the poor and middle classes. We see his many broken promises and outright reversals as meaningless campaign rhetoric intended to sucker voters into thinking Trump really cared about their tiny little lives. But Trump supporters don’t really know, much less, understand what his policies are. Heck, even Trump doesn’t know what they are, admitting last week: “I don’t stand by anything.”

To his supporters, Trump truly moves in mysterious ways. No matter the travail, they remain ever faithful, wearing their inexplicable steadfastness as a badge of honor. Biblical Job didn’t get an explanation from God for all his heartaches, so why should they be so presumptuous?
So with customary conversation starters off the table, you may feel limited, like the Trump supporters themselves, to exclusively using ad hominem attacks. But I’d like to expand your universe: Use their “alternative facts” against them. Just make up some bizarre, “alt-truth” concept, tell your target that Trump said it, and make him defend that.
Heck, find queasy quotes from Hitler or Stalin, say they’re from Trump, and demand an immediate, full explanation. Obviously, Trump supporters never look anything up, so have fun.