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Sep 20, 2018 21:47:43   #
Robert Harrington
 
padremike wrote:
I will accept "embellishment" over lie. Did Obama ever lie? How expensive was his pepper? Still in all, Stormy is a porn star and you find her more capable and credible than YOUR president. Don't you think he resembles Arthur Godfrey?

I simply don’t understand your comment. What does Obama’s lies have to do with what we are talking about. If you were serious you would not want to Mach Obama’s lies to Trumps lies...I believe Trumps lies have numbered over 4,000.

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Sep 20, 2018 22:13:15   #
Robert Harrington
 
[quote=debeda]
lindajoy wrote:
It still is a two way street, its just that now the women who alledge these acts 20,30, or even 40 years later are empowered with the money or book deal that may come...

I’m sorry but I don’t buy it .. These people and party who look to ruin careers of others are the lowest!

On another note~~There certainly isn’t any collusion here either, right??? I’m betting Ford didn’t expect the witch, I won’t say her name, to tske tjat provate letter snd put it out there.. Still wongering why she waited so long and did no independant investigation to confirm anything... Set up? You betcha!!

This will be a disaster for Democrats but far short of a victory for Republicans. Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

With less than two days before Sen. Chuck Grassley's deadline for Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who accused SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were both high school students, to file her written testimony with the Senate Judiciary Committee in order to appear before them on Monday, a few things are becoming clearer, making this entire event somewhat easier to prognosticate.

First, Ford has made herself unavailable to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and is only speaking through her lawyers. She is claiming death threats. I don't deny that she's gotten them, because there's some really sick people out there. But she hasn't gotten death threats from the U.S. Senate.

Second, in a transparently absurd game of goalpost-moving, Ford's attorneys first demanded that the FBI launch a formal criminal investigation, then backed off to merely requiring every "witness" they've implicated to appear before the Senate. Ford's attorneys made this last demand after Sen. Grassley, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to them detailing their options, and why the FBI is not in a position to run an investigation.

Grassley invoked the Constitution and Senate procedures in his letter, stating "The Constitution assigns the Senate and only the Senate with the task of advising the President on his nominee and consenting to the nomination if the circumstances merit. We have no power to commandeer an Executive Branch agency into conducting our due diligence." The letter was a powerful signal that the White House, which is standing behind Kavanaugh, and Republicans in the Senate, are closing ranks and challenging Ford (and Sen. Dianne Feinstein) to produce evidence.

Third, Maine Sen. Susan Collins, a potential swing vote if Democrats can break her away from Kavanaugh, said publicly that she thinks "it's not fair for Judge Kavanaugh for her not to come forward and testify." In other words, Feinstein's plan to launch the allegation and let it just hang in the air, hoping for the mob to run Kavanaugh out on a rail, has failed miserably.

Fourth, Republicans have the votes to confirm Kavanaugh, and there's nothing Democrats can do, having expended all their wet powder. They're clearly out of ammunition.

Now there's going to be Democrats engaging in face-saving, grandstanding, and a massive press effort to dig anything (literally, anything) up to embarrass, smear or otherwise create a cloud over the head of one of the most respected jurists in America. And Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/contributors/the-kavanaugh-end-game-vVTSnwccE0iDH5sN5oQA5w/?mc_cid=033172146b&mc_eid=54848c997b[/quote/]
Wow...You have written quite a large piece Grand icing your position on Brett’s nomination.Some of your points are valid but others don’t pass the smell test. To be honest with you I had hoped that this nomination would have gone through. However, in light of new information which you don’t agree as valid. I personally would like to see the brakes put on this nomination until we talk to the People involved with this case. There seems to be something fishy going on with Senator Grassley and his refusal to let the FBI do it’s job and interview the people involved. Yes I know the FBI has done some investigation into Mr. Kavanagh however, the current topic at hand has not been looked into. What are we scared of?Remember this is a lifetime appointment and we are ready have a sitting Supreme Court judge named Clarence Thomas with this kind of accusation hanging over his head.We certainly don’t need another one.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏DAMN you're good!!!! And AGREED!
It still is a two way street, its just that now th... (show quote)


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Sep 20, 2018 22:16:04   #
moldyoldy
 
[quote=debeda]
lindajoy wrote:
It still is a two way street, its just that now the women who alledge these acts 20,30, or even 40 years later are empowered with the money or book deal that may come...

I’m sorry but I don’t buy it .. These people and party who look to ruin careers of others are the lowest!

On another note~~There certainly isn’t any collusion here either, right??? I’m betting Ford didn’t expect the witch, I won’t say her name, to tske tjat provate letter snd put it out there.. Still wongering why she waited so long and did no independant investigation to confirm anything... Set up? You betcha!!

This will be a disaster for Democrats but far short of a victory for Republicans. Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

With less than two days before Sen. Chuck Grassley's deadline for Christine Blasey Ford, the woman who accused SCOTUS nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexually assaulting her when they were both high school students, to file her written testimony with the Senate Judiciary Committee in order to appear before them on Monday, a few things are becoming clearer, making this entire event somewhat easier to prognosticate.

First, Ford has made herself unavailable to the Senate Judiciary Committee, and is only speaking through her lawyers. She is claiming death threats. I don't deny that she's gotten them, because there's some really sick people out there. But she hasn't gotten death threats from the U.S. Senate.

Second, in a transparently absurd game of goalpost-moving, Ford's attorneys first demanded that the FBI launch a formal criminal investigation, then backed off to merely requiring every "witness" they've implicated to appear before the Senate. Ford's attorneys made this last demand after Sen. Grassley, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, sent a letter to them detailing their options, and why the FBI is not in a position to run an investigation.

Grassley invoked the Constitution and Senate procedures in his letter, stating "The Constitution assigns the Senate and only the Senate with the task of advising the President on his nominee and consenting to the nomination if the circumstances merit. We have no power to commandeer an Executive Branch agency into conducting our due diligence." The letter was a powerful signal that the White House, which is standing behind Kavanaugh, and Republicans in the Senate, are closing ranks and challenging Ford (and Sen. Dianne Feinstein) to produce evidence.

Third, Maine Sen. Susan Collins, a potential swing vote if Democrats can break her away from Kavanaugh, said publicly that she thinks "it's not fair for Judge Kavanaugh for her not to come forward and testify." In other words, Feinstein's plan to launch the allegation and let it just hang in the air, hoping for the mob to run Kavanaugh out on a rail, has failed miserably.

Fourth, Republicans have the votes to confirm Kavanaugh, and there's nothing Democrats can do, having expended all their wet powder. They're clearly out of ammunition.

Now there's going to be Democrats engaging in face-saving, grandstanding, and a massive press effort to dig anything (literally, anything) up to embarrass, smear or otherwise create a cloud over the head of one of the most respected jurists in America. And Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/contributors/the-kavanaugh-end-game-vVTSnwccE0iDH5sN5oQA5w/?mc_cid=033172146b&mc_eid=54848c997b[/quote/]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏DAMN you're good!!!! And AGREED!
It still is a two way street, its just that now th... (show quote)


Those frat boys and private school rich kids are used to getting away with anything. Just look at the year book comments.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/videos/kavanaughs-yearbook-raises-eyebrows/vi-BBNwz05

https://lawandcrime.com/uncategorized/there-are-some-pretty-bizarre-tellling-comments-on-brett-kavanaughs-high-school-yearbook-r/

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Sep 20, 2018 23:52:46   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
moldyoldy wrote:
trump is nobodies president. he is putins puppet.


Get the blazes out of America, you have no business living here. As much as I detested Obama he was still our president. Yes, you are not worthy to be an American.

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Sep 21, 2018 00:26:08   #
Justsss Loc: Wisconsin
 
[quote=padremike]Get the blazes out of America, you have no business living here.




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Sep 21, 2018 00:47:34   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
Weasel wrote:
Put your irons to the fire Ladies and get on with it. Let's get this party started.

MAGA....


Do any of you older men like myself miss the day when women were treated as ladies, cherished as wives and mothers and placed atop the metaphorical ivory tower? Who is advantaged by this war between sexes? Militant feminism teaches that unless a woman can become and do the same things as a man she has no worth or value. One has to search far and wide to find anything any more "sexist" than that sort of corrupt thinking. I do miss the days when girls were taught to be ladies and boys were taught to be gentlemen. Like the old Virginia Slim cigarette commercial touted,"You've come a long way baby....." I would add, "you may have lost more than you gained." Balance!

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Sep 21, 2018 00:54:02   #
Nickolai
 
padremike wrote:
Get the blazes out of America, you have no business living here. As much as I detested Obama he was still our president. Yes, you are not worthy to be an American.





You must be the only one I lost count of the times I heard he is not one of us with pics of hi dressed as a new Guinea head hunter. I thought it couldn't get worse after Bill Clinton but the hatred and lack of respect for Obama was breath taking

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Sep 21, 2018 00:57:40   #
debeda
 
padremike wrote:
Do any of you older men like myself miss the day when women were treated as ladies, cherished as wives and mothers and placed atop the metaphorical ivory tower? Who is advantaged by this war between sexes? Militant feminism teaches that unless a woman can become and do the same things as a man she has no worth or value. One has to search far and wide to find anything any more "sexist" than that sort of corrupt thinking. I do miss the days when girls were taught to be ladies and boys were taught to be gentlemen. Like the old Virginia Slim cigarette commercial touted,"You've come a long way baby....." I would add, "you may have lost more than you gained." Balance!
Do any of you older men like myself miss the day w... (show quote)


Some good points. I grew up with mostly boys in the neighborhood, so liked to play baseball, hockey, king of the hill, etc. BUT I also enjoyed being a girl. And when we got older I had about 8 cherished older brothers who'd even babysit for my younger siblings and do my chores ( my mom worked nights) if I had a date. I don't think girls OR boys should be precluded from doing things they enjoy, but the whole women having to act like men to be "good enough" always baffled me. Good enough for what? Though on the other hand, I got a job with the old Ma Bell and was not allowed to have the job I tested for and was hired for because I'd be "too much of a distraction to the men" (The district manager actually said those EXACT words to me). That is also unfair. But these days men are far more discriminated against than women.

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Sep 21, 2018 11:21:23   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
debeda wrote:
Some good points. I grew up with mostly boys in the neighborhood, so liked to play baseball, hockey, king of the hill, etc. BUT I also enjoyed being a girl. And when we got older I had about 8 cherished older brothers who'd even babysit for my younger siblings and do my chores ( my mom worked nights) if I had a date. I don't think girls OR boys should be precluded from doing things they enjoy, but the whole women having to act like men to be "good enough" always baffled me. Good enough for what? Though on the other hand, I got a job with the old Ma Bell and was not allowed to have the job I tested for and was hired for because I'd be "too much of a distraction to the men" (The district manager actually said those EXACT words to me). That is also unfair. But these days men are far more discriminated against than women.
Some good points. I grew up with mostly boys in th... (show quote)


Absolutely agree with you! When my granddaughter came along, I taught her that it was fine being a tomboy, give them boys Hello!!!!!! But ALWAYS remember you are a lady and conduct yourself accordingly! The ladies of today don’t realize the ‘fringe benefits’ that came along with being treated like a lady, and are missing today.......but what do I know, I’m an ‘old lady’

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Sep 21, 2018 11:26:39   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So, I'm listening to these women and how they think this Ford woman should be believed, but also, that the men should just shut up and man up??

Really??

This sexual abuse thing is getting out of control. If we let these women run with this, there will be no reproduction but for their golden permission! No passion, no spontaneity, no fun!!

The world functioned just fine for thousands of years without giving the women a voice, right??!!

Of course, I don't think that, but it would appear that many of these 21st century women are wanting to flip it on us men , and basically, take over!! I'm sorry girls, but that is neither biblical nor is it going to happen. The puss men of the 21st century might lean that way, but my guys, and my daughters aren't going with it!!

Men and women have places based upon all sorts of things. Men cannot give birth. Men have testosterone and thus are stronger. It's just the way it is. Not that I haven't seen a girl or two who could be pretty devastating, but that was mostly in the movies. Sorry girls. Mr and Mrs Jones just ain't possible! "Hey hun, your shooting is no better than your cooking, and that's saying something!!" The best line in a truly fictitious flick depicting a woman who could stand toe to toe with a guy. LOL!

So, as I see it, if you girls have something like this truly happen to you, no matter the delicate psychology of it, I'd suggest you "man" up and get on with the accusations, immediately, at the time. Get it out right then and there. Period!!!!!
So, I'm listening to these women and how they thin... (show quote)


God did not design a unisex for a reason.
God did not design this.
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Sep 21, 2018 11:40:24   #
TexaCan Loc: Homeward Bound!
 
Morgan wrote:
I know this, my response to your reply was to if it happen to your daughter you would not want her to report it, even years later
But with predators they don’t change with time so if someone did it at twenty if he is able he’ll do as long as he is able. To not report it makes you an enabler.
Read carefully I said you were the same as...


I’ve read through this whole thread and no one has commented on you analogy that predators don’t change with time and will continue with his horrendous actions as long as he is able! So by your own words, it would indicate that Judge Kavanaugh is innocent! No woman has come forward with any accusations of any like situations.....in fact many women, including past girlfriends and co-workers , have given glowing testimonies of his respectful treatment of all women! Apparently he never had any predatory ‘spots’!!!!!!!!!! This woman’s testimony has FALSE written all over it!

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Sep 21, 2018 12:10:38   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
nwtk2007 wrote:
So, I'm listening to these women and how they think this Ford woman should be believed, but also, that the men should just shut up and man up??

Really??

This sexual abuse thing is getting out of control. If we let these women run with this, there will be no reproduction but for their golden permission! No passion, no spontaneity, no fun!!

The world functioned just fine for thousands of years without giving the women a voice, right??!!

Of course, I don't think that, but it would appear that many of these 21st century women are wanting to flip it on us men , and basically, take over!! I'm sorry girls, but that is neither biblical nor is it going to happen. The puss men of the 21st century might lean that way, but my guys, and my daughters aren't going with it!!

Men and women have places based upon all sorts of things. Men cannot give birth. Men have testosterone and thus are stronger. It's just the way it is. Not that I haven't seen a girl or two who could be pretty devastating, but that was mostly in the movies. Sorry girls. Mr and Mrs Jones just ain't possible! "Hey hun, your shooting is no better than your cooking, and that's saying something!!" The best line in a truly fictitious flick depicting a woman who could stand toe to toe with a guy. LOL!

So, as I see it, if you girls have something like this truly happen to you, no matter the delicate psychology of it, I'd suggest you "man" up and get on with the accusations, immediately, at the time. Get it out right then and there. Period!!!!!
So, I'm listening to these women and how they thin... (show quote)

A bit petty, in light of the serious nature this discussion has taken...but, the movie and line you refer to here in your opening post was 'Mr. & Mrs. Smith,' not 'Mr. & Mrs. Jones.' It starred Bad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. Just sayin'.

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Sep 21, 2018 12:14:18   #
slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas
 
TexaCan wrote:
I’ve read through this whole thread and no one has commented on you analogy that predators don’t change with time and will continue with his horrendous actions as long as he is able! So by your own words, it would indicate that Judge Kavanaugh is innocent! No woman has come forward with any accusations of any like situations.....in fact many women, including past girlfriends and co-workers , have given glowing testimonies of his respectful treatment of all women! Apparently he never had any predatory ‘spots’!!!!!!!!!! This woman’s testimony has FALSE written all over it!
I’ve read through this whole thread and no one has... (show quote)

That, TexaCan, is as reasonable a comment as has been given regarding Mr. Kavanaugh.

However, I still regret Merrick Garland being refused even a hearing. He was and remains, IMO, the best possible candidate for SCOTUS.

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Sep 21, 2018 12:31:49   #
Morgan
 
Comment wrote:
Ms. Morgan

Ms. Morgan: If U are referring to the court nominee, he was 17, not 25. The allocations are that he grouped her, not sexually assaulted her. However I don't know the facts. I read that part of the allegations are that he pulled on her bikini top string & they fell on the bed. That sounds like teenagers playing around not sexual assault. This is why I don't trust females. I will never marry again in my life. I have lived alone for 28 years. I have been jerked around by too many of them.
Ms. Morgan br br Ms. Morgan: If U are referring t... (show quote)


It was a hypothetical and then pointing out when someone were to come forward years later. I'm not sure of the exact facts either on Kavanaugh. It is all getting ridiculous.

Sometimes people are attracted to the very thing they try to avoid, as maybe you and untrustworthy women, not said to offend, there are plenty of trustworthy women out there. Any women could say the same about men but why live alone, one just has to be cautious and take the time to get to know their partner.

I have a friend like that, doesn't trust any man because they all cheat, well only in her world, where she keeps choosing to be with people that lack the stature to be loyal, she is the cause of her own dilemma. She needs to take the time and do some soul searching on her own pattern.

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Sep 21, 2018 12:38:32   #
padremike Loc: Phenix City, Al
 
slatten49 wrote:
That, TexaCan, is as reasonable a comment as has been given regarding Mr. Kavanaugh.

However, I still regret Merrick Garland being refused even a hearing. He was and remains, IMO, the best possible candidate for SCOTUS.


I'm going to ask a question for which I have no knowledgeable answer. Do you recall any Democratic nominee for SCOTUS in 80 years that was not of an ideological liberal political persuasion? Republican appointees have departed from a strict constitutional interpretation and become liberal but I cannot remember a liberal judge turning conservative. Obama obviously saw in Garland a kindred spirit who would help convert our courts into a mini progressive legislative branch of government to further their agenda.

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