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Sep 21, 2018 10:52:12   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
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And then there’s this:

All good.

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Sep 21, 2018 11:05:24   #
Morgan
 
byronglimish wrote:
Okay Morgan, for the most part people need parameters for social behavior..What would be your method of stopping abortion for people doing them for convenience? Yes the sperm donor should be held accountable every bit as much as the receiver. In my opinion that's not being a mature man.


I hate to say this but a survey might help when asking the women why are they choosing an abortion? You would think a woman today would want to use a condom to avoid a TSD. People have to stop thinking... it won't happen to them. People need to be more informed about their chances of not becoming pregnant by doing nothing. Unfortunately, this mentality is prevalent among the youth and then oops Kids are still so naive.

Maybe more posters of people who can't have babies and wanting them. I recall some years ago white babies were a long wait and people were going to foreign countries like Ukraine to get an adopted child. I have two friends who did just that about 25 years ago. it wasn't cheap either.

I agree with you, it takes a real man to stand (not run)and take the responsibility. Some advertising may help with that also.

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Sep 21, 2018 11:35:50   #
Morgan
 
pafret wrote:
Unfortunately I think there is more truth than speculation in that original post. Trump is the fictional classic outsider; the humble farm boy becomes an invincible warrior and rises to command all of the forces of good in the battle with pure evil. In reality nothing is ever black and white. His being an outsider means he has not had the time to cultivate obligations, favors, and friends, who can protect his back in the infighting that goes on in the Washington cesspool. All of his co-party members consider his every action with regard to how it benefits them personally and they have no allegiance or obligation to protect Trump.

Inevitably Trump will step on the toes of his own party members because they all have their hands out to way too many fat cats, for their election expenses. They have other obligations that Trump has not convinced them to renege on.
Unfortunately I think there is more truth than spe... (show quote)


Where do you get Trump as a humble anything, especially a farm boy? What forces are good and what are evil, I think evil now resides in the white house if you want to call self-interest evil, I know it can be.

You are correct, few things are black and white especially politics, but to think Trump is innocent of political manipulations because he didn't come from DC, that is a very naive notion, manipulating people is a skill, one Trump has perfected over decades with his money. Simply look at him being so familiar with getting his own way all the time, look at how he treats people, even people with just as equal importance as himself.

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Sep 21, 2018 12:48:51   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
whitnebrat wrote:
Bananas and potatoes .... I see your point, but its two totally different circumstances. Yes, you're saving a life in both cases, but with the car, you're saving them from a physical harm which you didn't mandate. When you force the woman to carry to term, you are mandating that the woman complete the pregnancy, therefore you must accept responsibility for the child since you forced the mother to do so. You can't force a woman to complete an unwanted pregnancy and then just walk away and tell them 'it's your problem now.' In addition, many of these babies that are forced into the world from poor and minority communities have drug problems which the mother is ill-equipped to deal with, making the kids life a living hell. Just my opinion ... your mileage may differ.
Bananas and potatoes .... I see your point, but it... (show quote)


No, it's comparing apples to apples. Like you said, both examples save a life. How that life would have ended (without saving) is irrelevant. After all, the mother of the infant (that was saved) in the hot car is still 'burdened' by the kid, right?

But please don't misunderstand, I'm totally in favor of abortion rights. In fact, given the preponderance of unfit parents, I often think its use should be greatly expanded. I was merely pointing out the intellectual lazyness and peurility of that tired leftist illogical argument.

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Sep 21, 2018 13:53:17   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Morgan wrote:
Where do you get Trump as a humble anything, especially a farm boy? What forces are good and what are evil, I think evil now resides in the white house if you want to call self-interest evil, I know it can be.

You are correct, few things are black and white especially politics, but to think Trump is innocent of political manipulations because he didn't come from DC, that is a very naive notion, manipulating people is a skill, one Trump has perfected over decades with his money. Simply look at him being so familiar with getting his own way all the time, look at how he treats people, even people with just as equal importance as himself.
Where do you get Trump as a humble anything, espec... (show quote)


Unfortunately I think there is more truth than speculation in that original post. Trump is the fictional classic outsider; Metaphor begins here the humble farm boy becomes an invincible warrior and rises to command all of the forces of good in the battle with pure evil.End Metaphor In reality nothing is ever black and white.

His being an outsider means he has not had the time to cultivate obligations, favors, and friends, Note that there is no mention of Trump manipulating anyone or thing who can protect his back in the infighting that goes on in the Washington cesspool. All of his co-party members consider his every action with regard to how it benefits them personally and they have no allegiance or obligation to protect Trump.

Inevitably Trump will step on the toes of his own party members because they all have their hands out to way too many fat cats, for their election expenses. They have other obligations that Trump has not convinced them to renege on. Is this indicative of naivete to you

If you wish to make an argument then state your premise. Don't pretend you are responding to my post while you slay straw men. As it stands you may have read my post but you certainly didn't comprehend what you read.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:02:38   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
pafret wrote:
Unfortunately I think there is more truth than speculation in that original post. Trump is the fictional classic outsider; Metaphor begins here the humble farm boy becomes an invincible warrior and rises to command all of the forces of good in the battle with pure evil.End Metaphor In reality nothing is ever black and white.

His being an outsider means he has not had the time to cultivate obligations, favors, and friends, Note that there is no mention of Trump manipulating anyone or thing who can protect his back in the infighting that goes on in the Washington cesspool. All of his co-party members consider his every action with regard to how it benefits them personally and they have no allegiance or obligation to protect Trump.

Inevitably Trump will step on the toes of his own party members because they all have their hands out to way too many fat cats, for their election expenses. They have other obligations that Trump has not convinced them to renege on. Is this indicative of naivete to you

If you wish to make an argument then state your premise. Don't pretend you are responding to my post while you slay straw men. As it stands you may have read my post but you certainly didn't comprehend what you read.
Unfortunately I think there is more truth than spe... (show quote)


"If you wish to make an argument then state your premise. Don't pretend you are responding to my post while you slay straw men. As it stands you may have read my post but you certainly didn't comprehend what you read." - pafret

That is a usual problem with responding to Morgan.
She doesn't understand what you wrote, then misrepresents your position, and then time has to be wasted correcting her.
On Purpose?
Sometimes I wonder.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:21:59   #
Voice of Reason Loc: Earth
 
eagleye13 wrote:

That is a usual problem with responding to Morgan.
She doesn't understand what you wrote, then misrepresents your position, and then time has to be wasted correcting her.
On Purpose?
Sometimes I wonder.


That is her modus operandi. She purposely tries to goad posters with whom she disagrees into calling her stupid. Then, when they do, she reports them to the administrator to get them banned.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:37:05   #
eagleye13 Loc: Fl
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
That is her modus operandi. She purposely tries to goad posters with whom she disagrees into calling her stupid. Then, when they do, she reports them to the administrator to get them banned.


"That is her modus operandi. She purposely tries to goad posters with whom she disagrees into calling her stupid. Then, when they do, she reports them to the administrator to get them banned." - Voice of Reason
Really?
I don't doubt that. Morgan is a real piece of work.

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Sep 21, 2018 14:47:23   #
Jean Deaux
 
Morgan wrote:
FYI women living on welfare with a bunch of kids are not living the high life. Now white collar welfare, that's another story.


I've heard too many instances of the exact opposite to believe that. It no doubt has some exceptions, mother's that are poor money managers may squander their monthly benefits on dope or booze but many of those that can handle money responsibly have found it to be a very lucrative income.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:00:16   #
Jean Deaux
 
byronglimish wrote:
Okay Morgan, for the most part people need parameters for social behavior..What would be your method of stopping abortion for people doing them for convenience? Yes the sperm donor should be held accountable every bit as much as the receiver. In my opinion that's not being a mature man.



Require the sperm donor, after having been identified and proven by genes, to marry and support his new family. If he fails this basic responsibility for having created a family, ensure he can make no more creations. A sharp knife to remove his dangly bits may make him speak several octaves higher but he'll be no more hindrance to society. If he is a real menace, or a repeat daddy with other women, use a dull, rusty knife to enhance his experience. I'm tired of paying for these losers high jinks.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:13:20   #
Jean Deaux
 
pafret wrote:
That won't stop the problem of murder of the innocents or the burden of illegitmate children abandoned to public services. In all probability, it will give rise to other illegal scams to support the women and their bastards.


Certainly a possibility but it will discourage some of these individuals that want to get pregnant so as to increase their welfare benefits. That alone will slow abortions (no longer needed) and will eventually cause welfare rolls to decrease appreciably. If sufficient scrutiny is given to new attempts to scam the system, measures can be taken at that time to prevent the continued looting of the public treasury. And many of the bastards will receive a public raising that is much better than some of these disinterested "moms" are willing to provide. If all monetary awards for reproduction are removed, I believe the problem will take care of itself. Self responsibility is imperative!

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Sep 21, 2018 15:19:23   #
Jean Deaux
 
old marine wrote:
A simpler solution is when a woman wants an abortion make it mandatory that she gets her tubes tied at the same time.


Yet another good common sense solution! But I still believe that some of the male predators need to pay up at the same time. If they won't, neuter them. If the present woman is the first, use a sharp knife, if he has multiple kids with multiple women, use a dull, rusty knife with no anathesia. Perhaps cruel and unusual, but decidedly effective!

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Sep 21, 2018 15:25:29   #
Jean Deaux
 
Sicilianthing wrote:
>>>>

And then there’s this:



Superb sequence! I fully believe Trump is God sent to correct the drift of the Republic from its halcyon days and alter world events. I see much that he is achieving in those efforts but there is still a great deal to do. Support him and MAGA!!

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Sep 21, 2018 15:48:00   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Voice of Reason wrote:
That is her modus operandi. She purposely tries to goad posters with whom she disagrees into calling her stupid. Then, when they do, she reports them to the administrator to get them banned.


I have tried to clean up my language, a couple of warnings from Admin wised me up to the agents provocateurs, on this forum, who agitate to get a heated response and then complain to get you banned. I have sufficient command of the language, to verbally slit their throats without name calling.

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Sep 21, 2018 15:54:28   #
pafret Loc: Northeast
 
Jean Deaux wrote:
Yet another good common sense solution! But I still believe that some of the male predators need to pay up at the same time. If they won't, neuter them. If the present woman is the first, use a sharp knife, if he has multiple kids with multiple women, use a dull, rusty knife with no anathesia. Perhaps cruel and unusual, but decidedly effective!


There is no doubt that "Sauce for the Goose is Sauce for the Gander". Something will have to be done with the women to compel their identifying who the Gander is.

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