Creation Vs. Evolution (Page 4): Why do you slander and disparage me? You know devil means "slanderer". I am mentally ill, but I'm also stable and lucid. I have had the best of...

susanblange Loc: USA

mwdegutis wrote:

Thanks for posting Blade but I'm positive that Susan is mentally ill based on her prior posts and she has some type of messiah complex, typical of many mentally ill people.

Why do you slander and disparage me? You know devil means "slanderer". I am mentally ill, but I'm also stable and lucid. I have had the best of psychiatric care from Elijah. He is a child psychiatrist and he's been my doctor for almost 42 years. I haven't been hospitalized for 33 years. Psalm 38:7. "For my loins are filled with a loathsome disease: and there is no soundness in my flesh". Job 30:18. "By the great force of my disease is my garment changed..." Psalm 41:8. "An evil disease, say they, cleaveth fast unto him..." The last one was fulfilled on Xmas day, December 13, 1983.

mwdegutis Loc: Illinois

susanblange wrote:

Why do you slander and disparage me? You know devi... (show quote)

If you are stable and lucid now, i can't even begin to imagine how you were when you were psychotic.

susanblange Loc: USA

mwdegutis wrote:

If you are stable and lucid now, i can't even begin to imagine how you were when you were psychotic.

My insanity was mainly caused by my parents. I was an abused and neglected child since I was born. I used to have what is called "foreign accent syndrome" and it's caused by severe child abuse. When Jews hear me, they always ask me where I am from. I had a deep, weird voice, but I've lost the accent. Other factors contributing to my insanity are creativity and intellect. I created the Universe and I have a near genius IQ. You have to be a nut to believe what I believe, even if you're right.

acknowledgeurma

susanblange wrote:

My insanity was mainly caused by my parents. I was... (show quote)

When you say, "I created the Universe...", do you mean this as an expression of solipsism, or something like what Nelson Goodman writes about in "Ways of Worldmaking".
For synopsis see:
http://www.cs.joensuu.fi/~whamalai/skc/goodman.html
Here is the complete work:
https://monoskop.org/images/1/1d/Goodman_Nelson_Ways_of_Worldmaking.pdf

susanblange Loc: USA

acknowledgeurma wrote:

When you say, "I created the Universe...", do you mean this as an expression of solipsism, or something like what Nelson Goodman writes about in "Ways of Worldmaking".
For synopsis see:
http://www.cs.joensuu.fi/~whamalai/skc/goodman.html
Here is the complete work:
https://monoskop.org/images/1/1d/Goodman_Nelson_Ways_of_Worldmaking.pdf

Genesis 1:1-3. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth...And God said, Let there be light: and there was light". God spoke his creation into existence. By his word, the Messiah ended the Cold war, and the war in Ireland between the Protestants and Catholics. The pen is mightier than the sword. The Messiah also restored pride to the US military, and in 1988 he began to get the Jews out of Russia. God created the earth as a habitat for mankind, and God created mankind because he was lonely.

acknowledgeurma

susanblange wrote:

Genesis 1:1-3. "In the beginning God created ... (show quote)

?...??...???
Are you saying that you are God?
If this is what you are saying, can you provide any evidence other than your words?

woodguru

JW wrote:

Almost true, but the assumption that God did it never advances beyond the realm of supposition.

Science requires no further postulation. Both cases require only a single event to initiate the process.

One is an epic mind excursion that takes belief to have happened, the other takes scientifically possible events, they aren't "both" requiring single events

woodguru

mwdegutis wrote:

God is real.

That which is known about God is evident within man; for God made it evident to him. For since the creation of the world God's invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that man is without excuse. Romans 1:19-20

God is not nearly so real and tangible as the UFO's I've seen...

I'm pretty well convinced we were colonized, and even biblical events easily support an advanced presence throughout the bible.

woodguru

Carol Kelly wrote:

Every morning when I open my eyes I see the wonder of my God. He is the Creator. I need no further evidence than the beauty and the life i see around me. That is my proof.

That is proof of your reality as defined by your beliefs, nothing more.

You are welcome and free to have those beliefs and anything else you want to believe

JW

woodguru wrote:

One is an epic mind excursion that takes belief to have happened, the other takes scientifically possible events, they aren't "both" requiring single events

Of course they are. Neither one can prove the first event. Both rest on faith.

woodguru

JW wrote:

Of course they are. Neither one can prove the first event. Both rest on faith.

Wrong, science relies on actual things that are physically possible that can be scientifically proved, setting scientifically known principles into motion has set results...

creationism relies on beliefs in actions that can't be scientifically proved.

Now the concept of aliens colonizing the earth with ready formed humans doesn't stretch my intellect at all, that is physically possible if not likely.

Which would make both right...god was an alien, it is what it is

susanblange Loc: USA

acknowledgeurma wrote:

?...??...???
Are you saying that you are God?
If this is what you are saying, can you provide any evidence other than your words?

There are alot of gods in the world. I am the living God of Israel, the God of the Jews. It would take months of non-stop chatter, 16 hours a day, to orally recount in detail all the prophecies that have been fulfilled in my life. My Doctor is the reincarnation of Elijah the Prophet and he sincerely believes in me although it took him 24 years to admit it. He's been my Doctor for 42 years and he's a Jewish child Psychiatrist. He will "...turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers..." Malachi 4:4-6. That is in part what he does for a living. He will be anointed by the Jews so he is also a Messiah. "...These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth". Zechariah 4:14.

JW

woodguru wrote:

Wrong, science relies on actual things that are physically possible that can be scientifically proved, setting scientifically known principles into motion has set results...

creationism relies on beliefs in actions that can't be scientifically proved.

Now the concept of aliens colonizing the earth with ready formed humans doesn't stretch my intellect at all, that is physically possible if not likely.

Which would make both right...god was an alien, it is what it is

Wrong again! Science proposes theories; science attempts to prove them; some they do, some they don't. With regard to the origin of the universe, they have only theories they are trying to prove. It's not a bit different than belief that God made it all. Both are matters of belief.

They have no idea what 'dark matter' or 'dark energy' are. There are many other imponderables in science as well. Some scientists believe one thing and others believe something else... but in regard to the origin of the universe, no one knows. Some believe in singularities, some believe in a single Creator.

acknowledgeurma

susanblange wrote:

There are alot of gods in the world. I am the livi... (show quote)

Are you saying that you are the Jewish Messiah?

Not that it is any of my business, but you might consider getting a Psychiatrist who is an adult.

acknowledgeurma

JW wrote:

Wrong again! Science proposes theories; science at... (show quote)

From:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/belief
a state or habit of mind in which trust or confidence is placed in some person or thing

So are you saying that the trust or confidence some have in scientific theories of the "origin of the universe" are the same as the trust or confidence some have "in a single Creator"?
This video is some interesting speculation by Roger Penrose regarding the "origin of the universe".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2_6h15UCMg

As I understand it, the best current theory of gravity (General Relativity?) makes predictions about the movement of the matter (and energy?) in galaxies. But the observed movement does not match the predictions based on the known (observable) matter by a lot. Because the theory is so good for describing many other phenomena, some speculate that there is another kind of thing (dark matter) that interacts with normal matter gravitationally. There is a big hole in South Dakota (maybe Idaho?) were they have been looking for "dark matter".