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Sep 5, 2018 17:44:11   #
acknowledgeurma
 
JFlorio wrote:
McConnell said when asked by the news media about this quote that he was talking about Obama's stated policies and goals. Exactly what I thought when I heard him say it. Unlike some people I tried to vet Obama before I voted. He was a little known Senator with hardly any accomplishments. Before that, a community organizer. After listening to the faux president articulate what he stood for I wanted him to fail also. His stated goals: (Have to give him credit, he didn't lie) Universal healthcare, more government control, infringe upon 2nd amendment rights, redistribution of wealth, and lead the war on terror from behind while apologizing for the US all over the world. You may have been all for that. Many are. I am not. Neither was McConnell. So, it was no secret you're just being a typical arrogant liberal with your snide comments.
McConnell said when asked by the news media about ... (show quote)

How was President Obama a "faux president", did he not win the Electoral College vote, the same as President Trump?
And as far as secret motivations, I suspect we all have motivation that are secret (even to ourselves).

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Sep 5, 2018 17:46:51   #
nwtk2007 Loc: Texas
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
How was President Obama a "faux president", did he not win the Electoral College vote, the same as President Trump?
And as far as secret motivations, I suspect we all have motivation that are secret (even to ourselves).


He was "faux" in actions.

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Sep 5, 2018 17:53:10   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
How was President Obama a "faux president", did he not win the Electoral College vote, the same as President Trump?
And as far as secret motivations, I suspect we all have motivation that are secret (even to ourselves).


I threw the faux in there just to stir people up. He did win. I believe fair and square. I do have a problem with his history. More is not known than known. Very strange in this day and age. Much of his book Dreams .... has been proven BS.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:00:38   #
acknowledgeurma
 
padremike wrote:
Actually, you confirmed in your reply that you do not believe a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty. Given what you believe true this Wednesday, is President Trump guilty of any charges of which he is accused?

I am not aware of President Trump being charged with any crimes. And to my knowledge, President Trump has not been found guilty of any charges.

In our legal system, a person is not guilty until proven so through due process. Of course people like to use the word guilty to impugn the character of others all the time, but that generally has nothing to do with any determination under our laws.

With this common usage, I'm sure Donald John Trump is guilty of a lot of things, maybe even a few admirable.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:07:08   #
Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
Hey, if you don't like the rules, change them - if you can. It all depends on how the power lies. Might makes the rules.
I was responding to your complaint that "Republicans did it too" and corrected your mistake.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:23:06   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
I'm trying to figure out your point for offering up the article. I see that during the 1st 17 months, Obama only got 24 article 3 judges appointed and in that same time Trump got 39 (5th and 6th place since Reagan). Maybe you want to imply that Obama had it tougher to appoint judges? From what I've read Obama made a conscious decision not to make appointing judges one of his top priorities at the beginning of his 1st term. By the end of his 2nd term though, he'd appointed 329.

1st 17 months: 1.4 judges per month
Last 79 months: 3.9 judges per month

So I'd say he managed to catch things up.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:30:06   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
I'm not sure what argument you are making... Are you saying, that only people who see no bias, are allowed to ask for a judge to recuse?

And how is any decision made regarding government not political?
OK, let's see if I can clarify. Of course anyone can "ask" a judge to recuse - but the argument put forward for the judge to consider has got to be more than a collection of accusations thrown at the wall to see if anything will stick. We're still waiting for Mueller to produce something concrete. And of course any decision regarding government is political...and?

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Sep 5, 2018 18:35:18   #
Fit2BTied Loc: Texas
 
acknowledgeurma wrote:
What exactly are you unclear about, regarding these issues?
Perhaps, because all our previous presidents have not been as remarkable as President Trump, these question have not come up?
OK, so you can be sarcastic as well, but that still doesn't explain why that article isn't just another arrow from the left's quill used to prevent a constitutionally elected President from accomplishing his agenda.

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Sep 5, 2018 18:44:46   #
debeda
 
proud republican wrote:
Yes, we WILL see you RATS at the poles.........



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Sep 5, 2018 19:36:40   #
peter11937 Loc: NYS
 
JFlorio wrote:
I threw the faux in there just to stir people up. He did win. I believe fair and square. I do have a problem with his history. More is not known than known. Very strange in this day and age. Much of his book Dreams .... has been proven BS.


Obama is a world class BS artist.

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Sep 5, 2018 21:15:58   #
1ProudAmerican
 
peter11937 wrote:
Obama is a world class BS artist.



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Sep 5, 2018 21:25:30   #
debeda
 
GREAT meme!!!

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Sep 5, 2018 22:53:16   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Super Dave wrote:
I was responding to your complaint that "Republicans did it too" and corrected your mistake.

What mistake did I make? Was my supposition (that Fit2BTied was as upset when Republicans stalled President Obama's appointments as when Democrats stall President Trump's) mistaken? You might be right. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

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Sep 5, 2018 23:03:57   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
I'm trying to figure out your point for offering up the article. I see that during the 1st 17 months, Obama only got 24 article 3 judges appointed and in that same time Trump got 39 (5th and 6th place since Reagan). Maybe you want to imply that Obama had it tougher to appoint judges? From what I've read Obama made a conscious decision not to make appointing judges one of his top priorities at the beginning of his 1st term. By the end of his 2nd term though, he'd appointed 329.

1st 17 months: 1.4 judges per month
Last 79 months: 3.9 judges per month

So I'd say he managed to catch things up.
I'm trying to figure out your point for offering u... (show quote)

The figures relevant to stalling are the number of days from nomination to confirmation for appellate judges:
Bush I - 83
Clinton - 109
Bush II - 108
Obama -203
Trump - 138

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Sep 5, 2018 23:23:36   #
acknowledgeurma
 
Fit2BTied wrote:
OK, let's see if I can clarify. Of course anyone can "ask" a judge to recuse - but the argument put forward for the judge to consider has got to be more than a collection of accusations thrown at the wall to see if anything will stick. We're still waiting for Mueller to produce something concrete. And of course any decision regarding government is political...and?

I think the concern of some, is that President Trump appointed Kavanaugh because of his views about indicting a sitting president (he says it can't be done). Some may think it a bit sketchy for a president, who may be subject to indictment, to put someone in a position to rule otherwise. It seems reasonable that there might be at the least an appearance of conflict of interest, and hence a need to recuse.

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