Republicans are bringing back the real 'death panels': Sarah Palin burnished her reputation as a supremely ignorant commentator on public issues with her false assertion that the...

rumitoid

Sarah Palin burnished her reputation as a supremely ignorant commentator on public issues with her false assertion that the Affordable Care Act would create “death panels.”

To the contrary, one of the principal objectives of the ACA was to remove the de facto “death panels” that had long pervaded the health care insurance industry. These “death panels” were the actuaries who determined whether people with pre-existing conditions could get any health care insurance at all (outside of big company group plans for employees) or whether they should be required to pay exorbitant, and essentially unaffordable, premiums to get limited health care coverage.

The insurance company actuarial decisions were matters of life and death for families with pre-existing conditions, since coverage denial or the imposition of unaffordable premiums would mean that they would be unable to access the health care needed to save their lives. It is not an exaggeration to call them “death panels.”

Of course, from an abstract, purely economic standard these actuarial death panels made sense for insurance companies. Insurance companies are businesses seeking to make a profit in a capitalist economy. They are not charitable institutions. Insuring people with a strong likelihood of needing expensive health care is not an economically sound idea.

The Affordable Care Act, in many ways a Rube Goldberg structure built around our existing system of for-profit insurance companies, prohibited discrimination on the basis of pre-existing conditions. As a consequence, the ACA needed the insurance mandate that forced healthy, typically younger, people to sign up for coverage to subsidize the burden of insuring people more likely to require major health care expenditures.

Unlike a single-payer system, or the socialized insurance programs that exist in almost every other developed country, the ACA’s reliance on private for-profit insurance companies had this built-in problem.

Notwithstanding Palin’s misrepresentations, the supreme irony is that it is the Republicans who love “death panels.” With the demise of the health insurance mandate, the Republicans are taking legal action to facilitate the recrudescence of actuarial “death panels.” Based on the court rulings that undercut the ACA insurance mandate, the attorneys general of various Republican-controlled states have brought a lawsuit to permit insurance companies to once again deny health insurance on the basis of pre-existing conditions, or to make it once again unaffordable for families with these conditions. Not surprisingly, the administration of the current president has refused to defend the law or the principle that pre-existing conditions should not be grounds for denial of coverage of increased premiums.

With the ACA we didn’t get the imaginary “death panels” but — if the Republicans have their way — the real ones are coming back.

Sicilianthing

rumitoid wrote:

Sarah Palin burnished her reputation as a supremely ignorant commentator on public issues with her false assertion that the Affordable Care Act would create “death panels.”

To the contrary, one of the principal objectives of the ACA was to remove the de facto “death panels” that had long pervaded the health care insurance industry. These “death panels” were the actuaries who determined whether people with pre-existing conditions could get any health care insurance at all (outside of big company group plans for employees) or whether they should be required to pay exorbitant, and essentially unaffordable, premiums to get limited health care coverage.

The insurance company actuarial decisions were matters of life and death for families with pre-existing conditions, since coverage denial or the imposition of unaffordable premiums would mean that they would be unable to access the health care needed to save their lives. It is not an exaggeration to call them “death panels.”

Of course, from an abstract, purely economic standard these actuarial death panels made sense for insurance companies. Insurance companies are businesses seeking to make a profit in a capitalist economy. They are not charitable institutions. Insuring people with a strong likelihood of needing expensive health care is not an economically sound idea.

The Affordable Care Act, in many ways a Rube Goldberg structure built around our existing system of for-profit insurance companies, prohibited discrimination on the basis of pre-existing conditions. As a consequence, the ACA needed the insurance mandate that forced healthy, typically younger, people to sign up for coverage to subsidize the burden of insuring people more likely to require major health care expenditures.

Unlike a single-payer system, or the socialized insurance programs that exist in almost every other developed country, the ACA’s reliance on private for-profit insurance companies had this built-in problem.

Notwithstanding Palin’s misrepresentations, the supreme irony is that it is the Republicans who love “death panels.” With the demise of the health insurance mandate, the Republicans are taking legal action to facilitate the recrudescence of actuarial “death panels.” Based on the court rulings that undercut the ACA insurance mandate, the attorneys general of various Republican-controlled states have brought a lawsuit to permit insurance companies to once again deny health insurance on the basis of pre-existing conditions, or to make it once again unaffordable for families with these conditions. Not surprisingly, the administration of the current president has refused to defend the law or the principle that pre-existing conditions should not be grounds for denial of coverage of increased premiums.

With the ACA we didn’t get the imaginary “death panels” but — if the Republicans have their way — the real ones are coming back.

Sarah Palin burnished her reputation as a supremel... (show quote)

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I wanna see someone Arrested, jailed, convicted and HUNG for Treason, you know those household names they rumor about in all those rumored Sealed indictments...

How’s that sound ?

You like ?

rumitoid

Sicilianthing wrote:

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I wanna see someone Arrested, jailed, convicted and HUNG for Treason, you know those household names they rumor about in all those rumored Sealed indictments...

How’s that sound ?

You like ?

Take ur meds.

Sicilianthing

rumitoid wrote:

Take ur meds.

>>>>

yeah sure pal... you know it’s true, and what will you guys say when the first scumbag rat loser Traitor is arrested ?

what I would pay to see the look on your face when they arrest someone like

Brennan
Comey
Rosenstein
Ray
Obama
Hillary
Huma
Valerie
Keith Ellison
Mueller

would you like me to go on ?

rumitoid

Sicilianthing wrote:

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yeah sure pal... you know it’s true, and what will you guys say when the first scumbag rat loser Traitor is arrested ?

what I would pay to see the look on your face when they arrest someone like

Brennan
Comey
Rosenstein
Ray
Obama
Hillary
Huma
Valerie
Keith Ellison
Mueller

would you like me to go on ?

Take ur meds.

Sicilianthing

rumitoid wrote:

Take ur meds.

>>>>

I dont take anything and you’re evading the question and the truth ...

PeterS

rumitoid wrote:

Sarah Palin burnished her reputation as a supremely ignorant commentator on public issues with her false assertion that the Affordable Care Act would create “death panels.”

To the contrary, one of the principal objectives of the ACA was to remove the de facto “death panels” that had long pervaded the health care insurance industry. These “death panels” were the actuaries who determined whether people with pre-existing conditions could get any health care insurance at all (outside of big company group plans for employees) or whether they should be required to pay exorbitant, and essentially unaffordable, premiums to get limited health care coverage.

The insurance company actuarial decisions were matters of life and death for families with pre-existing conditions, since coverage denial or the imposition of unaffordable premiums would mean that they would be unable to access the health care needed to save their lives. It is not an exaggeration to call them “death panels.”

Of course, from an abstract, purely economic standard these actuarial death panels made sense for insurance companies. Insurance companies are businesses seeking to make a profit in a capitalist economy. They are not charitable institutions. Insuring people with a strong likelihood of needing expensive health care is not an economically sound idea.

The Affordable Care Act, in many ways a Rube Goldberg structure built around our existing system of for-profit insurance companies, prohibited discrimination on the basis of pre-existing conditions. As a consequence, the ACA needed the insurance mandate that forced healthy, typically younger, people to sign up for coverage to subsidize the burden of insuring people more likely to require major health care expenditures.

Unlike a single-payer system, or the socialized insurance programs that exist in almost every other developed country, the ACA’s reliance on private for-profit insurance companies had this built-in problem.

Notwithstanding Palin’s misrepresentations, the supreme irony is that it is the Republicans who love “death panels.” With the demise of the health insurance mandate, the Republicans are taking legal action to facilitate the recrudescence of actuarial “death panels.” Based on the court rulings that undercut the ACA insurance mandate, the attorneys general of various Republican-controlled states have brought a lawsuit to permit insurance companies to once again deny health insurance on the basis of pre-existing conditions, or to make it once again unaffordable for families with these conditions. Not surprisingly, the administration of the current president has refused to defend the law or the principle that pre-existing conditions should not be grounds for denial of coverage of increased premiums.

With the ACA we didn’t get the imaginary “death panels” but — if the Republicans have their way — the real ones are coming back.

Sarah Palin burnished her reputation as a supremel... (show quote)

Well our cons should enjoy this because this will weed out the most vulnerable in society and leave a healthier society for them to live in...

PeterS

Sicilianthing wrote:

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I dont take anything and you’re evading the question and the truth ...

You should be taking something Sici, that was the whole point...

PeterS

Sicilianthing wrote:

>>>>

I wanna see someone Arrested, jailed, convicted and HUNG for Treason, you know those household names they rumor about in all those rumored Sealed indictments...

How’s that sound ?

You like ?

I have no idea what you are talking about. I agree--take your meds...

crazylibertarian Loc: Florida by way of New York & Rhode Island

Gee rumitoid, does this include the 1,000,000 or so fetuses torn from their mothers' wombs and dismembered annually?

Bad Bob Loc: Virginia

crazylibertarian wrote:

Gee rumitoid, does this include the 1,000,000 or so fetuses torn from their mothers' wombs and dismembered annually?

Good morning Crazy. https://www.onepoliticalplaza.com/t-136003-1.html#2500099

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Sicilianthing wrote:

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I wanna see someone Arrested, jailed, convicted and HUNG for Treason, you know those household names they rumor about in all those rumored Sealed indictments...

How’s that sound ?

You like ?

If a person is really GUILTY of treason and a preponderance of the evidence proves the traitor is GUILTY than the maximum sentence should be imposed. DEATH by public televised firing squad.

old marine Loc: America home of the brave

Sicilianthing wrote:

>>>>

yeah sure pal... you know it’s true, and what will you guys say when the first scumbag rat loser Traitor is arrested ?

what I would pay to see the look on your face when they arrest someone like

Brennan
Comey
Rosenstein
Ray
Obama
Hillary
Huma
Valerie
Keith Ellison
Mueller

would you like me to go on ?

Maybe "rumitoid" is afraid his name may be on one of the indictment.

BBZ Loc: Long Island, NY

I remember Sicilian posting many times about Jade Helm and FEMA camps. He might want to think about medication.

Sicilianthing

old marine wrote:

If a person is really GUILTY of treason and a preponderance of the evidence proves the traitor is GUILTY than the maximum sentence should be imposed. DEATH by public televised firing squad.

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Bullseye, this needs to happen to send a message to the stupid sheeple and infiltrators...