OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

Disinformation is telling naive v**ers what they want to hear, making false promises of better and cheaper health insurance, of health care readily available for all, practically free, of redistribution of wealth of the “evil rich” who built their wealth on the backs of the poor, and of “social justice” reigning supreme. The reality is that millions of Americans have already lost or will lose private insurance because their insurance plans, which they liked and afforded, were deemed inferior by the Affordable Care Act. The actual health care delivery will be hampered by the total chaos, faulty exchanges, ill-prepared and dishonest navigators, the lack of sufficient doctors and nurses, and by new patients who will rush to see doctors for basic services that are free under ObamaCare. Meanwhile, patients with serious illnesses will have to wait patiently their turn in line behind younger Americans and i*****l a***ns.

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Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City

Don't foget those older, seriously ill folks who are deemed "unfit" by the Death Panel in the ACA. They'll get nothing but more pain and eventually death as a result of Obamacare. Really great Law, don't you think?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

My son got his policy back when Obama pulled another of his unconstitutional tricks and told insurance companies if they were doing business in states that had Insurance Commissioners who were willing to go along that they could come back. Of course, one major part of ACA that had caused him to lose his policy because of, maternity care, is in his new policy but he still has some insurance. How many times did I Won violate the Constitution with his changes of rules in Obamacare? Way too many to keep on getting by with it.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

That part of that law is what bothers me most. I just turned 81 and today, the 1st day of actual Obamacare has been my worst one about breathing. I won't get any kind of help because of the damned law because someone who is 40 may need the machine as much.

RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC

Until you can show us the exact provisions in the Affordable Care Act that show that Obama did not have the authority to tweak the program as he has, you really shouldn't say that he violated the Constitution. I haven't read the entire ACA, but I have read enough of it to see that the Secretary of Health and Human Services (which would also mean her boss, Obama) has a great deal of latitude in implementing its various provisions. Terms such as "as directed by the Secretary" are scattered throughout the law. I suspect that Obama has violated nothing, or the Republicans would have been all over him with injunctions and such.

RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC

Happy Birthday, Oldroy! But if you think that, then I think you need your meds checked. There could very well be a 40-yr-old who needs a breathing machine more than you, but I know of nothing in the ACA that would deny you access because of him. I assume you are referring to the non-existent "death panels".

Dave Loc: Upstate New York

You may have things a bit backwards - there would have to be specific authorization in the bill to afford Obama the latitude he has taken - and you suggest that the absence of same grants him that authority.

As to the Republicans and injunctions, you should study the term "standing" as it regards legal procedures. Those who lack standing have no ear in any court.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Non-existent death panels? That is flat out Democrat talk since we all know that the IPAB is certainly one of those and there may be more than them to determine who gets what kind of treatment.

Do I get to keep my CPAP machine when it breaks down or do I have to wait for one of those panels of bureaucrats to determine whether i need it as much as that 40 year old. I have had the thing for nearly 6 years. I had an oxygen producing mating for nearly all those years but right after October 1 when so many things Obamacare in nature went into effect it was removed since I didn't need oxygen all the time. I don't sleep nearly as well now but then someone told Medicare I didn't need the thing.

Of course, you don't see anything here at all concerned with "death panels" and I do since I am the one who has been taken from.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Do you really think that that law says the President can actually legislate like in giving another year to kick the thing in, in giving unions special treatment and so on? You don't really think that all those examples of what the Secretary can do gives the boss the right to change legislation, do you? You do manage to read a lot into Democrat passed bills (I call it that since not one Republican v**ed for it) that have never been in any legislation before.

In case you don't know, our three branches of government were intended to certain things and not others. The Congress is supposed to legislate, then the Executive branch is to put the laws into effect and the Courts act as referees between the two branches. Nowhere in the Constitution do you find anything about the President legislating (Executive Orders) or changing the meaning of laws. Nope, you came out of a highly regulated part of our life thinking this President has so many powers that none before him had.

Actually, since I know that the Senate didn't write that law but did pass in unconstitutionally you may be right. Who knows what all is in that thing. It was written by some insurance execs, 3 or 4 Senators, some labor leaders and had not one word of debate by any committees or the whole Senate and was then passed by the House the same way. None of them read it before v****g just as none of us has read all 2500+ pages. Have you read any of the reams and reams of regulations the HHS has written the past 3 years to put the thing into effect? Has anybody?

Please try to understand that the Founders didn't intend to have a President doing the legislating and Obama has changed one thing after another about this law in I am sure unconstitutional ways.

Don Overton Loc: Southwest USA

You are so ignorant it's pathetic. The only ones revising history is your people. In fact they are trying to revise the Bible. What a lovely bunch of coconut head anti Christians you are.

And you just have to quit eating that dog food. or at least go to another brand not made in China.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

I forgot to mention earlier that when a panel of bureaucrats made up of zero medical people makes those decisions they really aren't the ones to be making those decisions. Oh well, you don't understand that ACA is not about health care but about health insurance, do you?

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

May I suggest that your post here says nothing other than progressive babble? I will suggest it anyway, whether you like it or not.

RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC

No. I am not saying that at all. I said exactly what I meant. Scattered throughout the ACA, like many federal laws, are provisions that give the Secretary of the department authority to do certain things. I am suggesting that before anyone goes around saying that Obama violated the law, they should first check to see if any of the tweaks he has made did, in fact, violate the law. I suspect they did not.

OldSchool Loc: Moving to the Red State of Utah soon!

RetNavyCWO Loc: VA suburb of DC

The IPAB is CERTAINLY not one of those! It has no authority to review individual cases. That is not its purpose. It's purpose is to scrutinize Medicare operations and suggest improvements to save money. Why don't you read what the actual law says, oldroy, since it bothers you so much. Don't rely on what the fear-mongers are trying to convince you of.

Here's a good Wikipedia article about the IPAB:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Payment_Advisory_Board

Here's a link to the law. The IPAB is discussed in Section 10320 starting on page 831.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3590enr/pdf/BILLS-111hr3590enr.pdf