oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

That legislature is attacking a******n pretty hard. Now it appears that for a doctor to abort he must be able to admit the woman to a hospital, just in case. In other words they have declared war on the Supreme Court and its Roe v. Wade. I guess they have admitted that a******n supporters will have to raise a pile of money since they can do so with all that oil shale they have. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

http://news.yahoo.com/north-dakota-governor-approves-6-week-a******n-ban-161115751.html

Poco624

Conservatives have no regard for women. They call a******n murder, they will have a doctor prosecuted for performing an a******n, they will send a woman to prison for having a miscarriage. But they will not extend background checks on guns, that is supporting murder. A rapist, murderer, p*******e, criminals, et al have more respect than a woman. They are trying to redefine rape so the victim becomes the accuser. Paul Ryan R-WI was writting a bill that would force a woman to carry the rapist baby, allow the rapist to have parental rights and to be able to sue the victim if she gets an a******n. They do not want a woman to have a baby via IVF, but if she is raped she has to. This is a party of cretinous misognist. Some of them have a dead look in their eyes, as if they are devoid of a soul.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

A dead look in their eyes, as if they are devoid of a soul? Wow, I hadn't noticed that when I look in the mirror but I am one of those people although I don't agree with much of what you say here.

Conservatives have no regard for women? Did you bother to read what North Dakota is doing to try to protect women from untrained a******nists? I will have to go somewhere else till you cool off. I do know where you get those words but won't call you on it.

Poco624

Since you are devoid of a soul, I can understand why you do not see anything wrong here. When Hitler came to power in Germany he forced women out of the workforce and into their homes to have N**i babies. Your party thinks women do not get pregnant when raped because their bodies have a way to shut that whole thing down. That is what doctors in N**i concentration camps theorized. You do not what your guns controlled by the government, but it is okay for a womans body to be. A woman has the right to make her own decisions, along with her husband, boyfriend, parents, or friends. You are taking women back to the 50's and I mean the 1850's.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

You still haven't read my link in the opening post of this thread, have you?

When one or two people say what you are crying about you try, like most progressive thinkers, to put that thought on the heads of everybody who is not progressive. I really don't stand against a******n but I don't think I, as a taxpayer, should have to pay for them.

So you will know, my first wife had an a******n at 18 and I married her when she was 24. She never really was normal after having that a******n and spent the last 10 years or so of her counseling 13 year olds to have their babies and then adopt them out. She just convinced them that they may feel like murderers like she did. BTW, she never had a child because of that experience.

Poco624

That is unfortunate about your ex. A friend of mine had an a******n when she was 17, married when she was 23 and had 2 children with no problem. I guess it depends upon the doctor and if it was a legal a******n. I do not advocate a******ns as birth control, I do not think a women should have a rapist baby, or a baby from incest, or a deformed baby or be forced to have a baby she can not afford. A normal delivery cost $9,975 to $16,653 and a Cesarean section can cost anywhere from $15,041 to $26,305. A women can prevent a******ns by using birth control, but GOP govenors do not want them to use bc. I do not think the government should be in anyones bedroom or a woman's uterus. Taxpayers are paying $100 billion a year for unplanned babies.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

My wife had her a******n in 1962 so it was one of those illegal second floor, back alley ones. The procedure wasn't legal then.

As for how I feel about a******n, I just don't think that tax payers should have to pay for them, just like I don't feel we should have to pay for bc pills of any kind like the nasty Fluke woman does.

I may also say that my present wife is against most a******ns just like I am but we would have aborted our second one if it had appeared like any kind of deformity or brain problem was going to result. Luckily, we didn't have to make the decision.

Of all the reasons for a******n I would certainly support it for rape. How in hell can anybody want a woman to have to have a baby like that and be torn about the kid all its early years?

Poco624

A******n is murder, guns murder, a fetus is a person, so are the babies who are being murdered each day by guns. And the 20 5 and 6 year old who were gunned down during the Newtown, Ct massacre.

You do not want your guns to be controlled by the government. Women do not want their bodies to be controlled by the government.

Taxpayers are paying $10 billion dollars each year for gun violence, and $100 billion dollars for unplanned pregnancies.

Birth control prevents a******ns, and background checks would prevent guns from getting into a murders hands.

My questions is, why does the 2nd amendment trump a womans right to choose? Roe vs Wade was that constitutional right and Republicans are trying to overturn it.

My thought is: It is just a way to control a woman, take away her constitutional rights, take away the rights of her doctor, her minister, her God, her husbands, her family and friends. It puts a strut in the governors steps, especially if they are controlling another mans wife.

This thought is so 50's it is pathetic, this is the 21st Century and women are accomplishing -- on some levels more than men. Yahoo! hired their first female CEO and made their first profit in 5 years.

Republicans believe women should be at home taking care of babies, that just confirms that they are scared and frighten of todays women.

They call an intelligent woman over educated, and do not feel they should earn the same as men doing the same job.

oldroy Loc: Western Kansas (No longer in hiding)

Whoa back there horse. Does the government control what women can do with their bodies. I thought Roe v. Wade was the answer to that problem and it is still there, isn't it?

Now I have to wonder what murder, by guns, of babies you are talking about. Is it the accidental shooting of them when gangs go at each other or do some people do it on purpose?

What in hell does the 2nd Amendment have to do with a******ns and Roe v. Wade? Where do you copy and paste some of this crap from? You are conflating topics trying to make some sense about things like this, aren't you?