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Dec 24, 2013 23:14:41   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
The Obamacare deathcare system has imploded, and the continuing narrative continues to be that the regime is working to “fix the problem.” Nothing could be further from the t***h.

The apparently flawed law is doing what its designers intended. It’s blowing up the private health insurance market — which was already a morass of bureaucratic and regulatory argle-bargle and inefficiency — and driving the country, inexorably, toward a single-payer socialist/f*****t healthcare system one unConstitutional “regulatory” change at a time (at least 14 of them so far).

Central planning progressives, by word and deed, have long expressed their desire for a single-payer redistributive healthcare system. Obamacare has essentially accomplished that, while preserving the insurance companies as “middle men.” Insurance companies bought into the scheme because, rather than having to battle over customers and depend upon individuals to pay their premiums, they preferred the idea of a captive consumer pool and premium payments guaranteed by the Federal Treasury.

One by one, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ regulatory tweaks and President Barack Obama’s exemptions are removing payers from the system. They’ve created a regulatory jumble that has forced insurers to drop millions of policies that people were happy with in order to lump them into a one-size-fits-all box.

Premiums are high, deductibles are higher and the failure of Healthcare.gov and State exchange websites has rendered the redistributive “healthcare subsidies” incomprehensible. The few people who want to sign up can’t. The so-called millennials, upon whom the system depended as a foundation, are rejecting the scheme entirely, choosing instead to pay the penalty and sign up only if they get sick rather than subject themselves to the theft.

With no one left to pay into the system via premiums, insurance companies will howl for a bailout. They’ll be considered too big to fail. Then government will do what governments always do: print more money, raise taxes on the middle class and take over the whole the system that it purposely crashed. It’ll ration care, stifle innovation, remove healthy choices and lock people into Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s dream world, where people aren’t people at all unless they’re functioning contributors to society.

This will put people’s health in the hands of mind-numbed bureaucrats and automaton state doctors who march in lockstep to the collectivist system upon which their livelihood depends.

http://personalliberty.com/2013/12/24/the-obamacare-deception/

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Dec 25, 2013 09:07:23   #
JONDO
 
bmac32 wrote:
The Obamacare deathcare system has imploded, and the continuing narrative continues to be that the regime is working to “fix the problem.” Nothing could be further from the t***h.

The apparently flawed law is doing what its designers intended. It’s blowing up the private health insurance market — which was already a morass of bureaucratic and regulatory argle-bargle and inefficiency — and driving the country, inexorably, toward a single-payer socialist/f*****t healthcare system one unConstitutional “regulatory” change at a time (at least 14 of them so far). Cant wait till the next future President, What kind of Identification and background check he or she will have to go through, Plus his life history and records that they are supposed to produce to prove who they are and where they came from to prove they are even a citizen of the U.S. or not. And above all will he have to prove he is not a Liar ? I have had it with this one.

Central planning progressives, by word and deed, have long expressed their desire for a single-payer redistributive healthcare system. Obamacare has essentially accomplished that, while preserving the insurance companies as “middle men.” Insurance companies bought into the scheme because, rather than having to battle over customers and depend upon individuals to pay their premiums, they preferred the idea of a captive consumer pool and premium payments guaranteed by the Federal Treasury.

One by one, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ regulatory tweaks and President Barack Obama’s exemptions are removing payers from the system. They’ve created a regulatory jumble that has forced insurers to drop millions of policies that people were happy with in order to lump them into a one-size-fits-all box.

Premiums are high, deductibles are higher and the failure of Healthcare.gov and State exchange websites has rendered the redistributive “healthcare subsidies” incomprehensible. The few people who want to sign up can’t. The so-called millennials, upon whom the system depended as a foundation, are rejecting the scheme entirely, choosing instead to pay the penalty and sign up only if they get sick rather than subject themselves to the theft.

With no one left to pay into the system via premiums, insurance companies will howl for a bailout. They’ll be considered too big to fail. Then government will do what governments always do: print more money, raise taxes on the middle class and take over the whole the system that it purposely crashed. It’ll ration care, stifle innovation, remove healthy choices and lock people into Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s dream world, where people aren’t people at all unless they’re functioning contributors to society.

This will put people’s health in the hands of mind-numbed bureaucrats and automaton state doctors who march in lockstep to the collectivist system upon which their livelihood depends.

http://personalliberty.com/2013/12/24/the-obamacare-deception/
The Obamacare deathcare system has imploded, and t... (show quote)

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Dec 25, 2013 10:05:16   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
bmac32 wrote:
The Obamacare deathcare system has imploded, and the continuing narrative continues to be that the regime is working to “fix the problem.” Nothing could be further from the t***h.

The apparently flawed law is doing what its designers intended. It’s blowing up the private health insurance market — which was already a morass of bureaucratic and regulatory argle-bargle and inefficiency — and driving the country, inexorably, toward a single-payer socialist/f*****t healthcare system one unConstitutional “regulatory” change at a time (at least 14 of them so far).

Central planning progressives, by word and deed, have long expressed their desire for a single-payer redistributive healthcare system. Obamacare has essentially accomplished that, while preserving the insurance companies as “middle men.” Insurance companies bought into the scheme because, rather than having to battle over customers and depend upon individuals to pay their premiums, they preferred the idea of a captive consumer pool and premium payments guaranteed by the Federal Treasury.

One by one, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ regulatory tweaks and President Barack Obama’s exemptions are removing payers from the system. They’ve created a regulatory jumble that has forced insurers to drop millions of policies that people were happy with in order to lump them into a one-size-fits-all box.

Premiums are high, deductibles are higher and the failure of Healthcare.gov and State exchange websites has rendered the redistributive “healthcare subsidies” incomprehensible. The few people who want to sign up can’t. The so-called millennials, upon whom the system depended as a foundation, are rejecting the scheme entirely, choosing instead to pay the penalty and sign up only if they get sick rather than subject themselves to the theft.

With no one left to pay into the system via premiums, insurance companies will howl for a bailout. They’ll be considered too big to fail. Then government will do what governments always do: print more money, raise taxes on the middle class and take over the whole the system that it purposely crashed. It’ll ration care, stifle innovation, remove healthy choices and lock people into Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s dream world, where people aren’t people at all unless they’re functioning contributors to society.

This will put people’s health in the hands of mind-numbed bureaucrats and automaton state doctors who march in lockstep to the collectivist system upon which their livelihood depends.

http://personalliberty.com/2013/12/24/the-obamacare-deception/
The Obamacare deathcare system has imploded, and t... (show quote)


Might I also add:
There is about a trillion dollars of tax increases buried in Obama care. It is on medical care suppliers and medical people . It will be passed on to use as higher costs for care!
You will not directly see it or know it !

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Dec 25, 2013 10:23:10   #
trucksterbud
 
ObamaCare is for all the useful i***ts out there (read DEMOCRATS) who think that a free lunch from big brother is absolutely fantastic. Since they don't work, and have no concept of work and how a family's income is produced, they have no problem taking this freebie. But what about the day that comes (and it will) when there are no more hard working, wage earning salt of the earth individuals.?? Its only a matter of time before this Saul Alinsky type mentality gets cooked under its own weight. The wealthy elite may feel they are really pulling a s**m off and getting away with it. But what happens when the clerks no longer man the cash registers, the truckers no longer truck, the masons no longer lay brick, the carpenters and steel workers no longer build, the pilots no longer fly, hmmm, did they ever think about that I wonder..??

The following is a direct quote from www.CAFR1.com by someone who understands the innerworkings of government and the massive lie that is being perpetuated by the ruling elite.

OBAMACARE - 09/25/13 - CAFR1 IN REPLY TO BOB:
Bob:
The blocking stage play was set before the Obamacare program was introduced.
You do not rape the entire population without setting the stage for "supposed" "stiff opposition" to give the impression their was counter measures fighting on the people's side.
The Obamacare structure is designed to make government a trillion or two extra a year via collective local and federal government massive investment holdings in the healthcare and insurance industries. This was the #1 intent and motive from SCRATCH ONE behind Obamacare!
Has there been a peep or coverage for cognitive thinking of the #1 driving motive behind Obamacare from the syndicated news; any of the two primary political party representatives; or any elected official? No, there has not been. Kinda like a cruise boat in the middle of the ocean and the ocean is never mentioned, done so in line with the staged play to implement.
When and if the focus shifts to the massive wealth Obamacare generates for the government investment holdings, then I will say the population has an iota of ammunition for not being played as useful i***ts. When being raped, for the "why" you were raped never to be mentioned and focused on, there is NO CHANCE of accountability or corrective action.
The two issues that are the core issues here are as follows:
1. Collective government is heavily invested in the health care and insurance industry groups. (the primary investor in both)
They have made a k*****g via investment return over the last three decades by expending massive amounts of "tax" revenue at taxpayer expense to cover government inflated cost healthcare procedures that in turn directly enhanced their "investment" return in the same. The shift to direct payments outside of taxation applied for the same by the population was put into motion by the government gang to free up tax revenue to be spent in "other" arenas with the implementation of Obamacare.
2. With Obamacare implemented and functioning, the public and businesses will now be paying "collectively" (in effect an undisclosed tax) a trillion or two directly to the insurance industry groups that will offset the government's taxpayer fund allocations. Governments investment equity profits with the insurance groups will soar with not $1 "directly" tied in to offset or reduce general taxation.
Indirectly there will be the benefit to government pension funds and "other" government investment portfolios based on the influx of additional and massive investment returns, but the true 1 + 1 = 2 equation of directly offsetting taxation is absent from the equation for direct accountability and in as such, the pool and streams of massive funds generated will be at governments "discretionary" utilization outside of public view or even comprehension thereof.
TREASON: "Treason doth never prosper; what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612
Please share my comments with all that you know.
Attempt to do the math as to the massive revenue that will now be generated for collective government via their massive pr-positioned investments and return generated there from through the insurance industry. In doing so the clear motive and intent for Obamacare will come into view.
If one to two trillion is generated therefrom each year, mandate and start the discussion that the same reduction in direct taxation occurs. Otherwise the government gang pulls off their covert play of Obamacare and gets two bangs for a buck with the candle being burnt at both ends at the population's expense..

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Dec 25, 2013 10:46:23   #
JONDO
 
trucksterbud wrote:
ObamaCare is for all the useful i***ts out there (read DEMOCRATS) who think that a free lunch from big brother is absolutely fantastic. Since they don't work, and have no concept of work and how a family's income is produced, they have no problem taking this freebie. But what about the day that comes (and it will) when there are no more hard working, wage earning salt of the earth individuals.?? Its only a matter of time before this Saul Alinsky type mentality gets cooked under its own weight. The wealthy elite may feel they are really pulling a s**m off and getting away with it. But what happens when the clerks no longer man the cash registers, the truckers no longer truck, the masons no longer lay brick, the carpenters and steel workers no longer build, the pilots no longer fly, hmmm, did they ever think about that I wonder..?? To tell you the t***h i think this Obama care is being over seen by Bernie Madoff right out of his prison cell, Its just a legalized ponsie scheme run by a corrupt government to fleece the whole country, and in the end be obligated to a Rogue Dictator.

The following is a direct quote from www.CAFR1.com by someone who understands the innerworkings of government and the massive lie that is being perpetuated by the ruling elite.

OBAMACARE - 09/25/13 - CAFR1 IN REPLY TO BOB:
Bob:
The blocking stage play was set before the Obamacare program was introduced.
You do not rape the entire population without setting the stage for "supposed" "stiff opposition" to give the impression their was counter measures fighting on the people's side.
The Obamacare structure is designed to make government a trillion or two extra a year via collective local and federal government massive investment holdings in the healthcare and insurance industries. This was the #1 intent and motive from SCRATCH ONE behind Obamacare!
Has there been a peep or coverage for cognitive thinking of the #1 driving motive behind Obamacare from the syndicated news; any of the two primary political party representatives; or any elected official? No, there has not been. Kinda like a cruise boat in the middle of the ocean and the ocean is never mentioned, done so in line with the staged play to implement.
When and if the focus shifts to the massive wealth Obamacare generates for the government investment holdings, then I will say the population has an iota of ammunition for not being played as useful i***ts. When being raped, for the "why" you were raped never to be mentioned and focused on, there is NO CHANCE of accountability or corrective action.
The two issues that are the core issues here are as follows:
1. Collective government is heavily invested in the health care and insurance industry groups. (the primary investor in both)
They have made a k*****g via investment return over the last three decades by expending massive amounts of "tax" revenue at taxpayer expense to cover government inflated cost healthcare procedures that in turn directly enhanced their "investment" return in the same. The shift to direct payments outside of taxation applied for the same by the population was put into motion by the government gang to free up tax revenue to be spent in "other" arenas with the implementation of Obamacare.
2. With Obamacare implemented and functioning, the public and businesses will now be paying "collectively" (in effect an undisclosed tax) a trillion or two directly to the insurance industry groups that will offset the government's taxpayer fund allocations. Governments investment equity profits with the insurance groups will soar with not $1 "directly" tied in to offset or reduce general taxation.
Indirectly there will be the benefit to government pension funds and "other" government investment portfolios based on the influx of additional and massive investment returns, but the true 1 + 1 = 2 equation of directly offsetting taxation is absent from the equation for direct accountability and in as such, the pool and streams of massive funds generated will be at governments "discretionary" utilization outside of public view or even comprehension thereof.
TREASON: "Treason doth never prosper; what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612
Please share my comments with all that you know.
Attempt to do the math as to the massive revenue that will now be generated for collective government via their massive pr-positioned investments and return generated there from through the insurance industry. In doing so the clear motive and intent for Obamacare will come into view.
If one to two trillion is generated therefrom each year, mandate and start the discussion that the same reduction in direct taxation occurs. Otherwise the government gang pulls off their covert play of Obamacare and gets two bangs for a buck with the candle being burnt at both ends at the population's expense..
ObamaCare is for all the useful i***ts out there (... (show quote)

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Dec 25, 2013 10:50:50   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
trucksterbud wrote:
ObamaCare is for all the useful i***ts out there (read DEMOCRATS) who think that a free lunch from big brother is absolutely fantastic. Since they don't work, and have no concept of work and how a family's income is produced, they have no problem taking this freebie. But what about the day that comes (and it will) when there are no more hard working, wage earning salt of the earth individuals.?? Its only a matter of time before this Saul Alinsky type mentality gets cooked under its own weight. The wealthy elite may feel they are really pulling a s**m off and getting away with it. But what happens when the clerks no longer man the cash registers, the truckers no longer truck, the masons no longer lay brick, the carpenters and steel workers no longer build, the pilots no longer fly, hmmm, did they ever think about that I wonder..??

The following is a direct quote from www.CAFR1.com by someone who understands the innerworkings of government and the massive lie that is being perpetuated by the ruling elite.

OBAMACARE - 09/25/13 - CAFR1 IN REPLY TO BOB:
Bob:
The blocking stage play was set before the Obamacare program was introduced.
You do not rape the entire population without setting the stage for "supposed" "stiff opposition" to give the impression their was counter measures fighting on the people's side.
The Obamacare structure is designed to make government a trillion or two extra a year via collective local and federal government massive investment holdings in the healthcare and insurance industries. This was the #1 intent and motive from SCRATCH ONE behind Obamacare!
Has there been a peep or coverage for cognitive thinking of the #1 driving motive behind Obamacare from the syndicated news; any of the two primary political party representatives; or any elected official? No, there has not been. Kinda like a cruise boat in the middle of the ocean and the ocean is never mentioned, done so in line with the staged play to implement.
When and if the focus shifts to the massive wealth Obamacare generates for the government investment holdings, then I will say the population has an iota of ammunition for not being played as useful i***ts. When being raped, for the "why" you were raped never to be mentioned and focused on, there is NO CHANCE of accountability or corrective action.
The two issues that are the core issues here are as follows:
1. Collective government is heavily invested in the health care and insurance industry groups. (the primary investor in both)
They have made a k*****g via investment return over the last three decades by expending massive amounts of "tax" revenue at taxpayer expense to cover government inflated cost healthcare procedures that in turn directly enhanced their "investment" return in the same. The shift to direct payments outside of taxation applied for the same by the population was put into motion by the government gang to free up tax revenue to be spent in "other" arenas with the implementation of Obamacare.
2. With Obamacare implemented and functioning, the public and businesses will now be paying "collectively" (in effect an undisclosed tax) a trillion or two directly to the insurance industry groups that will offset the government's taxpayer fund allocations. Governments investment equity profits with the insurance groups will soar with not $1 "directly" tied in to offset or reduce general taxation.
Indirectly there will be the benefit to government pension funds and "other" government investment portfolios based on the influx of additional and massive investment returns, but the true 1 + 1 = 2 equation of directly offsetting taxation is absent from the equation for direct accountability and in as such, the pool and streams of massive funds generated will be at governments "discretionary" utilization outside of public view or even comprehension thereof.
TREASON: "Treason doth never prosper; what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612
Please share my comments with all that you know.
Attempt to do the math as to the massive revenue that will now be generated for collective government via their massive pr-positioned investments and return generated there from through the insurance industry. In doing so the clear motive and intent for Obamacare will come into view.
If one to two trillion is generated therefrom each year, mandate and start the discussion that the same reduction in direct taxation occurs. Otherwise the government gang pulls off their covert play of Obamacare and gets two bangs for a buck with the candle being burnt at both ends at the population's expense..
ObamaCare is for all the useful i***ts out there (... (show quote)


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Dec 25, 2013 10:53:58   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
trucksterbud wrote:
ObamaCare is for all the useful i***ts out there (read DEMOCRATS) who think that a free lunch from big brother is absolutely fantastic. Since they don't work, and have no concept of work and how a family's income is produced, they have no problem taking this freebie. But what about the day that comes (and it will) when there are no more hard working, wage earning salt of the earth individuals.?? Its only a matter of time before this Saul Alinsky type mentality gets cooked under its own weight. The wealthy elite may feel they are really pulling a s**m off and getting away with it. But what happens when the clerks no longer man the cash registers, the truckers no longer truck, the masons no longer lay brick, the carpenters and steel workers no longer build, the pilots no longer fly, hmmm, did they ever think about that I wonder..??

The following is a direct quote from www.CAFR1.com by someone who understands the innerworkings of government and the massive lie that is being perpetuated by the ruling elite.

OBAMACARE - 09/25/13 - CAFR1 IN REPLY TO BOB:
Bob:
The blocking stage play was set before the Obamacare program was introduced.
You do not rape the entire population without setting the stage for "supposed" "stiff opposition" to give the impression their was counter measures fighting on the people's side.
The Obamacare structure is designed to make government a trillion or two extra a year via collective local and federal government massive investment holdings in the healthcare and insurance industries. This was the #1 intent and motive from SCRATCH ONE behind Obamacare!
Has there been a peep or coverage for cognitive thinking of the #1 driving motive behind Obamacare from the syndicated news; any of the two primary political party representatives; or any elected official? No, there has not been. Kinda like a cruise boat in the middle of the ocean and the ocean is never mentioned, done so in line with the staged play to implement.
When and if the focus shifts to the massive wealth Obamacare generates for the government investment holdings, then I will say the population has an iota of ammunition for not being played as useful i***ts. When being raped, for the "why" you were raped never to be mentioned and focused on, there is NO CHANCE of accountability or corrective action.
The two issues that are the core issues here are as follows:
1. Collective government is heavily invested in the health care and insurance industry groups. (the primary investor in both)
They have made a k*****g via investment return over the last three decades by expending massive amounts of "tax" revenue at taxpayer expense to cover government inflated cost healthcare procedures that in turn directly enhanced their "investment" return in the same. The shift to direct payments outside of taxation applied for the same by the population was put into motion by the government gang to free up tax revenue to be spent in "other" arenas with the implementation of Obamacare.
2. With Obamacare implemented and functioning, the public and businesses will now be paying "collectively" (in effect an undisclosed tax) a trillion or two directly to the insurance industry groups that will offset the government's taxpayer fund allocations. Governments investment equity profits with the insurance groups will soar with not $1 "directly" tied in to offset or reduce general taxation.
Indirectly there will be the benefit to government pension funds and "other" government investment portfolios based on the influx of additional and massive investment returns, but the true 1 + 1 = 2 equation of directly offsetting taxation is absent from the equation for direct accountability and in as such, the pool and streams of massive funds generated will be at governments "discretionary" utilization outside of public view or even comprehension thereof.
TREASON: "Treason doth never prosper; what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason." Sir John Harrington, 1561-1612
Please share my comments with all that you know.
Attempt to do the math as to the massive revenue that will now be generated for collective government via their massive pr-positioned investments and return generated there from through the insurance industry. In doing so the clear motive and intent for Obamacare will come into view.
If one to two trillion is generated therefrom each year, mandate and start the discussion that the same reduction in direct taxation occurs. Otherwise the government gang pulls off their covert play of Obamacare and gets two bangs for a buck with the candle being burnt at both ends at the population's expense..
ObamaCare is for all the useful i***ts out there (... (show quote)


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Dec 25, 2013 11:02:53   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Exactly what Obama has expressed he wants on National T.V. is a one payer Medical system that he thinks is best for American's .
Although I don't think he even thinks about American people , he is more a " use any means to get the end result"
And you can bet your bippy it will be run and controlled by the government !
This administration is so power hungry it's pathetic ! American's are just collateral damage to the end game of power and control .

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Dec 25, 2013 11:05:16   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
bmac32 wrote:
The Obamacare deathcare system has imploded, and the continuing narrative continues to be that the regime is working to “fix the problem.” Nothing could be further from the t***h.

The apparently flawed law is doing what its designers intended. It’s blowing up the private health insurance market — which was already a morass of bureaucratic and regulatory argle-bargle and inefficiency — and driving the country, inexorably, toward a single-payer socialist/f*****t healthcare system one unConstitutional “regulatory” change at a time (at least 14 of them so far).

Central planning progressives, by word and deed, have long expressed their desire for a single-payer redistributive healthcare system. Obamacare has essentially accomplished that, while preserving the insurance companies as “middle men.” Insurance companies bought into the scheme because, rather than having to battle over customers and depend upon individuals to pay their premiums, they preferred the idea of a captive consumer pool and premium payments guaranteed by the Federal Treasury.

One by one, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius’ regulatory tweaks and President Barack Obama’s exemptions are removing payers from the system. They’ve created a regulatory jumble that has forced insurers to drop millions of policies that people were happy with in order to lump them into a one-size-fits-all box.

Premiums are high, deductibles are higher and the failure of Healthcare.gov and State exchange websites has rendered the redistributive “healthcare subsidies” incomprehensible. The few people who want to sign up can’t. The so-called millennials, upon whom the system depended as a foundation, are rejecting the scheme entirely, choosing instead to pay the penalty and sign up only if they get sick rather than subject themselves to the theft.

With no one left to pay into the system via premiums, insurance companies will howl for a bailout. They’ll be considered too big to fail. Then government will do what governments always do: print more money, raise taxes on the middle class and take over the whole the system that it purposely crashed. It’ll ration care, stifle innovation, remove healthy choices and lock people into Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel’s dream world, where people aren’t people at all unless they’re functioning contributors to society.

This will put people’s health in the hands of mind-numbed bureaucrats and automaton state doctors who march in lockstep to the collectivist system upon which their livelihood depends.

http://personalliberty.com/2013/12/24/the-obamacare-deception/
The Obamacare deathcare system has imploded, and t... (show quote)


Let us remember that neither Secretary Kathleen Sebelius or President Barack Obama can write, rewrite or change the law. That privilege is reserved for the Congress under the Constitution of the United States. As far as Exemptions go, there are no provisions in the PAC that allows for them. Again, Obama is breaking the law.
Obama stole $600 million and $300 million right out of Medicare to help fund PAC.

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Dec 25, 2013 11:29:14   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Winter Solstice wrote:
Let us remember that neither Secretary Kathleen Sebelius or President Barack Obama can write, rewrite or change the law. That privilege is reserved for the Congress under the Constitution of the United States. As far as Exemptions go, there are no provisions in the PAC that allows for them. Again, Obama is breaking the law.
Obama stole $600 million and $300 million right out of Medicare to help fund PAC.


You have got to understand Obama doesn't give a damn
about the Constitution or Congress .
He is ruling by regulation and totally bypassing the Congress !
He is almost defying Congress because they will not and are not using their power to do anything to make him abide by the Constitution!
The final say so resides in the Senate and the President and they are in the same political party !
The Saul Alinsky party !!

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Dec 25, 2013 11:36:25   #
bmac32 Loc: West Florida
 
Everyone (including democrats) should remember this, they can twist and turn this anyway they like but in the end they will be the losers in this. They should also slam their Reps of both parties.



Winter Solstice wrote:
Let us remember that neither Secretary Kathleen Sebelius or President Barack Obama can write, rewrite or change the law. That privilege is reserved for the Congress under the Constitution of the United States. As far as Exemptions go, there are no provisions in the PAC that allows for them. Again, Obama is breaking the law.
Obama stole $600 million and $300 million right out of Medicare to help fund PAC.

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Dec 25, 2013 11:56:15   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Winter Solstice wrote:
Let us remember that neither Secretary Kathleen Sebelius or President Barack Obama can write, rewrite or change the law. That privilege is reserved for the Congress under the Constitution of the United States. As far as Exemptions go, there are no provisions in the PAC that allows for them. Again, Obama is breaking the law.
Obama stole $600 million and $300 million right out of Medicare to help fund PAC.


They have already changed the ACA tax law several times since it became public and is a disaster without the approval or insight of any of the other branches of Government !
They have changed the cut off point where you have to have insurance or be fined ( Taxed?)
They have given several exemption to Large corporations
and Unions that they don't have to go to ACA for at least a year.
They have changed the rules about you can keep your present insurance if it hasn't changed premium cost , or coverage for the last 3 years.
Maybe you can say they aren't changing the written rules they are just not going to enforce them , like they do in so many other instances !

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Dec 25, 2013 12:07:51   #
Winter Solstice Loc: Salt Lake City
 
Bigmac495 wrote:
They have already changed the ACA tax law several times since it became public and is a disaster without the approval or insight of any of the other branches of Government !
They have changed the cut off point where you have to have insurance or be fined ( Taxed?)
They have given several exemption to Large corporations
and Unions that they don't have to go to ACA for at least a year.
They have changed the rules about you can keep your present insurance if it hasn't changed premium cost , or coverage for the last 3 years.
Maybe you can say they aren't changing the written rules they are just not going to enforce them , like they do in so many other instances !
They have already changed the ACA tax law several ... (show quote)

I miss your point. Who is the they? Is is surely not the Congress. They've not rewritten the ACA. But both Obama and the Supreme Court (By the way) have. Both are clearly Unconstitutional.

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Dec 25, 2013 12:30:56   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Winter Solstice wrote:
I miss your point. Who is the they? Is is surely not the Congress. They've not rewritten the ACA. But both Obama and the Supreme Court (By the way) have. Both are clearly Unconstitutional.


Obama or Sibelius had it done I would imagine !

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Dec 25, 2013 12:58:58   #
Bigmac495 Loc: Indiana
 
Winter Solstice wrote:
I miss your point. Who is the they? Is is surely not the Congress. They've not rewritten the ACA. But both Obama and the Supreme Court (By the way) have. Both are clearly Unconstitutional.


The point is : Obama has already chosen to disregard 3 things in ACA since its debut !
It might be argued that Obama just refused to enforce some of the items in ACA .
Just like he has done on immigration and deportation of i******s !
The Supreme court didn't rewrite anything on ACA , they don't legislate they just rule on it. And they ruled that ACA was a tax not a law!
Nobody really knows where the ACA was written or by whom , it was Obama's signature project !
The ACA act was passed by both houses when they were both controlled by Democrats !

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