hprinze Loc: Central Florida

You responsible, working and former working-retired folks will really be on board with this one................

Writtrn by a gentleman in California


I'm a 54 year old consulting engineer and make between $60,000 and $125,000 per year, depending on how hard I work and whether or not there are work projects out there for me.

My girlfriend is 61 and makes about $18,000 per year, working as a part-time mail clerk.

For me, making $60,000 a year, under ObamaCare, the cheapest, lowest grade policy I can buy, which also happens to impose a $5,000 deductible, costs $482 per month.

For my girlfriend, the same exact policy, same deductible, costs $1 per month. That's right, $1 per month. I'm not making this up.

Don't believe me? Just go to www.coveredca.gov , the ObamaCare website for California and enter the parameters I've mentioned above and see for yourself. By the way, my zip code is 93940. You'll need to enter that.

So OK, clearly ObamaCare is a scheme that involves putting the cost burden of healthcare onto the middle and upper-income wage earners. But there's a lot more to it. Stick with me.

And before I make my next points, I'd like you to think about something:

I live in Monterey County, in Central California. We have a large land mass but just 426,000 residents - about the population of Colorado Springs or the city of Omaha.

But we do have a large Hispanic population, including a large number of i*****l a***ns, and to serve this group we have Natividad Medical Center, a massive, Federally subsidized county medical complex that takes up an area about one-third the size of the Chrysler Corporation automobile assembly plant in Belvedere, Illinois (see Google Earth View). Natividad has state-of-the-art operating rooms, Computed Tomography and Magnetic Resonance Imaging, fully equipped, 24 hour emergency room, and much more. If you have no insurance, if you've been in a drive-by shooting or have overdosed on crack cocaine, this is where you go. And it's essentially free, because almost everyone who ends up in the ER is uninsured.

Last year, 2,735 babies were born at Natividad. 32% of these were born to out-of-wedlock teenage mothers, 93% of which were Hispanic. Less than 20% could demonstrate proof of citizenship, and 71% listed their native language as Spanish. Of these 876 births, only 40 were covered under [any kind of] private health insurance. The taxpayers paid for the other 836. And in case you were wondering about the entire population - all 2,735 births - less than 24% involved insured coverage or even partial payment on behalf of the patient to the hospital in exchange for services. Keep this in mind as we move forward.

Now consider this:

If I want to upgrade my policy to a low-deductible premium policy, such as what I had with my last employer, my cost is $886 per month. But my girlfriend can upgrade her policy to the very same level, for just $4 per month. That's right, $4 per month. $48 per year for a zero-deductible, premium healthcare policy - the kind of thing you get when you work at IBM (except of course, IBM employees pay an average of $170 per month out of pocket for their coverage).

I mean, it's bad enough that I will be forced to subsidize the ObamaCare scheme in the first place. But even if I agreed with the basic scheme, which of course I do not, I would never agree to subsidize premium policies. If I have to pay $482 a month for a budget policy, I sure as hell do not want the guy I'm subsidizing to get a better policy, for less that 1% of what I have to fork out each month for a low-end policy.


Why must I pay $482 per month for something the other guy gets for a dollar? And why should the other guy get to buy an $886 policy for $4 a month? Think about this: I have to pay $10,632 a year for the same thing that the other guy can get for $48. $10,000 of net income is 60 days of full time work as an engineer. $48 is something I could could pay for collecting aluminum cans and plastic bottles, one day a month.

Are you with me on this? Are you starting to get an idea what ObamaCare is really about?

ObamaCare is not about dealing with inequities in the healthcare system. That's just the cover story. The real story is that it is a massive, political power grab. Do you think anyone who can insure himself with a premium policy for $4 a month will v**e for anyone but the political party that provides him such a deal? ObamaCare is about enabling, subsidizing, and expanding the Left's political power base, at taxpayer expense. Why would I v**e for anyone but a Democrat if I can have babies for $4 a month? For that matter, why would I go to college or strive for a better job or income if it means I have to pay real money for healthcare coverage? Heck, why study engineering when I can be a schlub for $20K per year and buy a new F-150 with all the money I'm saving?

And think about those $4-a-month babies - think in terms of propagation models. Think of just how many babies will be born to irresponsible, under-educated mothers. Will we get a new crop of brain surgeons and particle physicists from the dollar baby club, or will we need more cops, criminal courts and prisons? One thing you can be certain of: At $4 a month, they'll multiply, and multiply, and multiply. And not one of them will v**e Republican.

ObamaCare: It's all about political power.

bahmer

Very well stated and so very very true. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy new year.

Onelittlevoice

Did anyone NOT know that it was about political power from the beginning? Those who v**ed in Congress for it, V**E them OUT. That is, of course, if your v**e will be counted. It may be filtered and replaced by someone's pet airdale. See, animals do v**e.

Comment Loc: California

There's not one lib on this site that will v**e other than DEMOCRAT for they are full f**gged c*******t in in the closet..

snowbear37 Loc: MA.

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And a Merry Christmas to you!

trucksterbud

To see the real story behind ObamaCare or the ACA, see the links below. Kind of goes with what you are saying.

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bahmer

Very good. Every liberal should look at those downloads and maybe reevaluate their stance although few if any ever will. Why when Marxism has been tried over and over again do they keep going back to it. Marxism, socialism, c*******m, progressiveism, and all the other similar type tyranny's have been tried over and over and all fail, the only ones that gain anything are those at the very top of the pinnacle and they have to watch their backs continually.

trucksterbud

Thank you for your kind words, but unfortunately, and you know it, liberals operate on a kind of mental depravity, or they wouldn't be liberals. Bash the other guy for his views, but don't ever do some research that might jar them out of that spoiled pampered bubble that a liberal lives in. Ha, if liberals lived in the real world, they wouldn't be liberals.

Bwaahahahah.!!

Comment Loc: California

Nah! socialist love taking money away from you and giving it to those you choose not to work. I know a young man who drew unemployment for two yrs. Lived with dad and he wrote his mom and said, "unemployment is running out next week. Got to get a job." In a week he was hired. There are jobs to be had but why work when you can get a living for free. Sex 24/7. Babies and more babies. More welfare.

Connie421

Great personal example! I think no matter what happens with Obamacare the Alinsky followers win. It is all about the dismantling of the country.

The irony is that the goose that lays golden eggs (ie, private sector) is being cooked for dinner.

Comment Loc: California

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Armageddun Loc: The show me state

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Is this the 21st Century true definition of MADNESS... INSANITY... ????

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agenda recommends denial of personal responsibility, encourages self-pity another-pity, fosters government dependency, promotes sexual indulgence, rationalizes violence, excuses financial obligation, justifies theft, ignores rudeness, prescribes complaining and blaming, denigrates marriage and the family, legalizes all a******n, defies religious and social tradition, declares ine******y unjust, and rebels against the duties of citizenship. Through multiple entitlements to unearned goods, services and social status, the liberal politician promises to ensure everyone’s material welfare, provide for everyone’s healthcare, protect everyone’s self-esteem, correct everyone’s social and political disadvantage, educate every citizen, and eliminate all class distinctions. Radical liberalism thus assaults nations of civilized freedom. Given its irrational goals, coercive methods and historical failures, and given its perverse effects on character development, there can be no question of the radical agenda's madness. Only an irrational agenda would advocate a systematic destruction of the foundations on which ordered liberty depends. Only an irrational man would want the state to run his life for him rather than create secure conditions in which he can run his own life. Only an irrational agenda would deliberately undermine the citizen’s growth to competence by having the state adopt him. Only irrational thinking would trade individual liberty for government coercion, sacrificing the p***e of self-reliance for welfare dependency. Only a madman would look at a community of free people cooperating by choice and see a society of victims exploited by villains."

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The Liberal Mind: The Psychological Causes of Political Madness by Jr. M.D., Lyle H. Rossiter