lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Articles/2013/07/24/The-Government-Is-Wasting-More-Money-than-You-Think

Obama just cut veterans benefits (instead of closing IRS loop holes for i*****l i*******ts) because they need money. This report breaks down $788 billion + in wasted government spending. Obama cannot find $6 billion in needed money so he cuts our benefits?

grey gringo Loc: South Texas

It is obvious why Obama has done this, the i******s v**ed for him, veterans did not.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

There is plenty of money to be found, if they want to look for it and plenty of blame too. They cut 80 billion from SNAP but spent 600 million on a goofball website. The cost of keeping the capitol in operation out weighs the budget of most departments/agencies. I never hear them talking of reducing that d**g on our budget. The congressional staff is bloated, the white house staff is bloated, the expense accounts of both are bloated and so are the heads and ego's of those involved.

lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin

Looking through that table I was immediately struck by the overlapping programs cost within the general accounting office, $95 billion! I looked this up and from what I could glean there are fifteen offices with several hundred employees that are doing the exact same job. I have one office with five employees who do mine and several hundred other businesses accounting. Someone said to me the other day, "but this is the government, they handle trillions of dollars and it takes a lot of people to do that."

I repeated this comment to my accountant who shook his head and said quote; "that is complete bulls**t, I do not care if you are working with 100 thousand dollars, or 100 trillion dollars, it is the same god damn process."

He went on to explain that the redundancy was nothing more than a way to spend every dollar of a budget so that they get the same or more money the next time around. The job could easily be handled by one office with a second as a verification process, and a small team of auditors to finalize the numbers.

I can put some credence into what he says because it turns out he spent six years as a senior budget analyst under the Carter and Reagan administrations. He was also the State Auditor for Wisconsin under Scott McCallum. I know this because I did a background check on him before I hired him. It is a good chance that he knows what he is talking about.

After a little further research I was able to find that the budget for that particular accounting agency is around $350 Million per fiscal year, but they accumulated $95 Billion in costs due to overlapping programs. I am not an accountant but that just seems a little obvious to me that something is off.

If you look through that table, $6 Billion seems like it would be very easy to find.

One of the comments in this article mirrors what I have said several times in my posts. We need a single agency that is civilian ran, that audits the US governments spending, congress does not get the job done because they are the ones wasting the money on their own pet projects and lining their and their cronies pockets. Really?! This is called the honor system and obviously they are not following the rules. We need a way to hold them accountable other than them doing it themselves.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Yes, and there is the GAO, Government Accounting Office and the CBO, Congressional Budget Office. Assuming the Congress is part of the Government, why separate accountants? The list of redundancies really skyrockets when you talk about law enforcement. DHS, FBI, DEA, ICE, BATFE etc. all doing the same job and often at cross purposes. Certainly not communicating effectively with each other. All those could be rolled into DHS saving approximately 350 billion a year. That is just the tip. Talk about intelligence services and the same applies. They're tripping over each other out there.

lone_ghost Loc: Wisconsin

Well that is the question is it not? Why is the government left to govern itself? Should we the civilian population not be who holds our government accountable? For the people by the people. I do not know about anyone else but my interpretation of that is the government works for us and they are accountable to us, but they are not. They are only accountable to themselves. That is called a monopoly of power and is associated with c*******m, socialism, f*****m, and totalitarian authority. Very Orwellian to say the least and has no connection to a democratic or capitalist society.

I am not just running my mouth, I am going to work on this. If I find a way, who is behind me? Are you (meaning anybody) ready to step up and do what ever it takes to make it happen? I just wonder how many people out there are just talk and no action. Intimidation is the governments first tool, then comes incarceration, financial ruin by the IRS seizing all of your assets, kicking you and your family out on the street with no money. Of course they know who you are so if you capitulate, they will put you on welfare so that they can control you and shut you up. Yeah, I do not see a whole lot takers on that. So we remain right where we are.

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

My Congressional rep ( his office staff ) called the police to remove me from the premises when I said " I will wait" to see him. The police said it was private property so I had to go, I said it was MY property because I was paying for it and every one there worked for ME. That didn't work, so it was arrest or leave. I suppose the next step will be a restraining order. I keep telling people that if more of us would go it might be different. It's cold out there all alone.

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

Exactly! :roll:

slatten49 Loc: Lake Whitney, Texas

I am impressed, Doc. :thumbup: Good man...you are!

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

Not really, I live to stir up s#@t. My mistake was not taking some deck apes and jarheads with me. Boy, I can remember some terrific dustups with a crew like that! We spent 3 days in jail in San Diego once, cost us a lot of money when we got back to the USS Iwo Jima though. That little party started when some drunk biker suggested an unholy intimacy between Sailors and Marines. No one died ( I got more injuries from my own crew trying to stop them k*****g someone. :P )
Next time I'll take more people and picket the SOB, until I can get an "appointment". On my own I lack the monetary requirements for getting on the "list".

Armageddun Loc: The show me state

Anytime someone can v**e for their own pay raise or benefits it becomes human nature to abuse it. We the people have to shake this entire government up and clean it out.

angery american Loc: Georgia

I see a lot of smart people on this site,who actually know that our country is in grave danger. I along with a lot of people that I know personally, are all aware of what will eventually have to happen before there are any changes made. The politicians aren't going to change anything,{either party}Because for the most part, they are all crooks..It will only take one small spark, I don't know where or how it will come ,but its coming. Then we can hopefully take back our country and restore the constitution to its rightful place in our government. Then and only then will a new patriotism swell up in the people and a most of the crap that we have to put up with now, will be cast aside. LOCK AND LOAD....angery outttt

lpnmajor Loc: Arkansas

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