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Dec 25, 2016 01:04:13   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian "boss" that something like 30% of Americans are so taken with. While Obama vilifies his political opposition by going on TV and spouting off, Putin silences his opposition by unleashing his FSB k**ler dogs.

The Putin Murders: A Brief History of Putintime

The info below is a sampling.

45-year-old former KGB agent Vladimir Putin is plucked from obscurity out of the St. Petersburg local government apparatus by President Boris Yeltsin and named Deputy Chief of Staff. In June, he defends his PhD dissertation in “strategic planning” at St. Petersburg’s Mining Institute. Later, this document proves to have been plagiarized from a KGB t***slation of work by U.S. professors published many years earlier (as if nobody would notice, and in fact for quite a while nobody did).

July 1998: In a second inexplicable move, Yeltsin names Putin head of the KGB (now called the FSB).

Putin's victims:

November 1998: Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova, murdered.

Completing a hat trick of bizarre spontaneous promotions, proud KGB spy Putin is named by Yeltsin Prime Minister of Russia. Almost immediately, Putin orders a massive bombing campaign against the tiny, defenseless breakaway republic of Chechnya, apparently seeing the reassertion of Russian power there as key to overall resurgence of Russia’s military and state security apparatus, his primary political objective. On August 26th, he’s forced to acknowledge the horrific consequences of the bombing. Hundreds of civilians are k**led and tens of thousands are left homeless as civilian targets are attacked.

April 2003: Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, murdered.

July 2003: Yuri Shchekochikhin, a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Duma and the Kovalev Commission, poisoned.

June 2004: Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, murdered in his apartment.

July 2004: Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

September 2004: Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.

September 2006: Andrei Kozlov, First Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering (basically acting on analyses like that of reporter Klebnikov), the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

October 2006: Anna Politkovskaya, author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and k**led at her home in Moscow.

November 2006: Alexander Litvinenko, KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki and Kashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources.

March 2007: On Sunday February 25th, the American TV news magazine Dateline NBC aired a report on the k*****g of Litvinenko. MSNBC also carried a report. The reports confirmed that British authorities believe Litvinenko perished in a “state-sponsored” assasination. In the opening of the broadcast, Dateline highlighted the analysis of a senior British reporter (Daniel McGrory, a senior correspondent for The Times of London) and a senior American expert on Russia who knew Litvinennko well. Five days before the broadcast aired, shortly after he was interviewed for it, McGrory was dead.

January 2009: Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and k**led was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.

July 2009: Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova (pictured, left), a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter.

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Dec 25, 2016 06:09:42   #
badbob85037
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian "boss" that something like 30% of Americans are so taken with. While Obama vilifies his political opposition by going on TV and spouting off, Putin silences his opposition by unleashing his FSB k**ler dogs.

The Putin Murders: A Brief History of Putintime

The info below is a sampling.

45-year-old former KGB agent Vladimir Putin is plucked from obscurity out of the St. Petersburg local government apparatus by President Boris Yeltsin and named Deputy Chief of Staff. In June, he defends his PhD dissertation in “strategic planning” at St. Petersburg’s Mining Institute. Later, this document proves to have been plagiarized from a KGB t***slation of work by U.S. professors published many years earlier (as if nobody would notice, and in fact for quite a while nobody did).
Another couple hundred thousand more he will be catching up with obama. OK I give up. 5 times I tried to update with what I wrote the first time and nothing. Forget it.
Another couple hundred thousand more he will be catching up with obama.
Another couple hundred thousand more he will be catching up with obama.
Another couple hundred thousand more he will be catching up with obama.
Another couple hundred thousand more he will be catching up with obama.

July 1998: In a second inexplicable move, Yeltsin names Putin head of the KGB (now called the FSB).

Putin's victims:

November 1998: Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova, murdered.

Completing a hat trick of bizarre spontaneous promotions, proud KGB spy Putin is named by Yeltsin Prime Minister of Russia. Almost immediately, Putin orders a massive bombing campaign against the tiny, defenseless breakaway republic of Chechnya, apparently seeing the reassertion of Russian power there as key to overall resurgence of Russia’s military and state security apparatus, his primary political objective. On August 26th, he’s forced to acknowledge the horrific consequences of the bombing. Hundreds of civilians are k**led and tens of thousands are left homeless as civilian targets are attacked.

April 2003: Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, murdered.

July 2003: Yuri Shchekochikhin, a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Duma and the Kovalev Commission, poisoned.

June 2004: Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, murdered in his apartment.

July 2004: Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

September 2004: Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.

September 2006: Andrei Kozlov, First Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering (basically acting on analyses like that of reporter Klebnikov), the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

October 2006: Anna Politkovskaya, author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and k**led at her home in Moscow.

November 2006: Alexander Litvinenko, KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki and Kashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources.

March 2007: On Sunday February 25th, the American TV news magazine Dateline NBC aired a report on the k*****g of Litvinenko. MSNBC also carried a report. The reports confirmed that British authorities believe Litvinenko perished in a “state-sponsored” assasination. In the opening of the broadcast, Dateline highlighted the analysis of a senior British reporter (Daniel McGrory, a senior correspondent for The Times of London) and a senior American expert on Russia who knew Litvinennko well. Five days before the broadcast aired, shortly after he was interviewed for it, McGrory was dead.

January 2009: Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and k**led was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.

July 2009: Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova (pictured, left), a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter.
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian &... (show quote)

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Dec 25, 2016 06:16:26   #
badbob85037
 
5 times I tried to update this post with what I wrote the first time. I'm done, forget it.

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Dec 25, 2016 06:22:40   #
Steve700
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian "boss" that something like 30% of Americans are so taken with. While Obama vilifies his political opposition by going on TV and spouting off, Putin silences his opposition by unleashing his FSB k**ler dogs.

The Putin Murders: A Brief History of Putintime

The info below is a sampling.

45-year-old former KGB agent Vladimir Putin is plucked from obscurity out of the St. Petersburg local government apparatus by President Boris Yeltsin and named Deputy Chief of Staff. In June, he defends his PhD dissertation in “strategic planning” at St. Petersburg’s Mining Institute. Later, this document proves to have been plagiarized from a KGB t***slation of work by U.S. professors published many years earlier (as if nobody would notice, and in fact for quite a while nobody did).

July 1998: In a second inexplicable move, Yeltsin names Putin head of the KGB (now called the FSB).

Putin's victims:

November 1998: Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova, murdered.

Completing a hat trick of bizarre spontaneous promotions, proud KGB spy Putin is named by Yeltsin Prime Minister of Russia. Almost immediately, Putin orders a massive bombing campaign against the tiny, defenseless breakaway republic of Chechnya, apparently seeing the reassertion of Russian power there as key to overall resurgence of Russia’s military and state security apparatus, his primary political objective. On August 26th, he’s forced to acknowledge the horrific consequences of the bombing. Hundreds of civilians are k**led and tens of thousands are left homeless as civilian targets are attacked.

April 2003: Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, murdered.

July 2003: Yuri Shchekochikhin, a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Duma and the Kovalev Commission, poisoned.

June 2004: Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, murdered in his apartment.

July 2004: Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

September 2004: Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.

September 2006: Andrei Kozlov, First Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering (basically acting on analyses like that of reporter Klebnikov), the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

October 2006: Anna Politkovskaya, author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and k**led at her home in Moscow.

November 2006: Alexander Litvinenko, KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki and Kashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources.

March 2007: On Sunday February 25th, the American TV news magazine Dateline NBC aired a report on the k*****g of Litvinenko. MSNBC also carried a report. The reports confirmed that British authorities believe Litvinenko perished in a “state-sponsored” assasination. In the opening of the broadcast, Dateline highlighted the analysis of a senior British reporter (Daniel McGrory, a senior correspondent for The Times of London) and a senior American expert on Russia who knew Litvinennko well. Five days before the broadcast aired, shortly after he was interviewed for it, McGrory was dead.

January 2009: Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and k**led was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.

July 2009: Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova (pictured, left), a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter.
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian &... (show quote)

Both the Obama & the Clinton deadpool is bigger than that.

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Dec 25, 2016 07:36:07   #
Coos Bay Tom Loc: coos bay oregon
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian "boss" that something like 30% of Americans are so taken with. While Obama vilifies his political opposition by going on TV and spouting off, Putin silences his opposition by unleashing his FSB k**ler dogs.

The Putin Murders: A Brief History of Putintime

The info below is a sampling.

45-year-old former KGB agent Vladimir Putin is plucked from obscurity out of the St. Petersburg local government apparatus by President Boris Yeltsin and named Deputy Chief of Staff. In June, he defends his PhD dissertation in “strategic planning” at St. Petersburg’s Mining Institute. Later, this document proves to have been plagiarized from a KGB t***slation of work by U.S. professors published many years earlier (as if nobody would notice, and in fact for quite a while nobody did).

July 1998: In a second inexplicable move, Yeltsin names Putin head of the KGB (now called the FSB).

Putin's victims:

November 1998: Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova, murdered.

Completing a hat trick of bizarre spontaneous promotions, proud KGB spy Putin is named by Yeltsin Prime Minister of Russia. Almost immediately, Putin orders a massive bombing campaign against the tiny, defenseless breakaway republic of Chechnya, apparently seeing the reassertion of Russian power there as key to overall resurgence of Russia’s military and state security apparatus, his primary political objective. On August 26th, he’s forced to acknowledge the horrific consequences of the bombing. Hundreds of civilians are k**led and tens of thousands are left homeless as civilian targets are attacked.

April 2003: Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, murdered.

July 2003: Yuri Shchekochikhin, a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Duma and the Kovalev Commission, poisoned.

June 2004: Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, murdered in his apartment.

July 2004: Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

September 2004: Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.

September 2006: Andrei Kozlov, First Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering (basically acting on analyses like that of reporter Klebnikov), the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

October 2006: Anna Politkovskaya, author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and k**led at her home in Moscow.

November 2006: Alexander Litvinenko, KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki and Kashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources.

March 2007: On Sunday February 25th, the American TV news magazine Dateline NBC aired a report on the k*****g of Litvinenko. MSNBC also carried a report. The reports confirmed that British authorities believe Litvinenko perished in a “state-sponsored” assasination. In the opening of the broadcast, Dateline highlighted the analysis of a senior British reporter (Daniel McGrory, a senior correspondent for The Times of London) and a senior American expert on Russia who knew Litvinennko well. Five days before the broadcast aired, shortly after he was interviewed for it, McGrory was dead.

January 2009: Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and k**led was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.

July 2009: Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova (pictured, left), a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter.
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I am definitely not in the 30% who approve of Putin---He is definitely not a friend to our country

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Dec 25, 2016 07:37:40   #
PeterS
 
Steve700 wrote:
Both the Obama & the Clinton deadpool is bigger than that.


Such an active imagination Stevie. Merry Christmas. Has hiding from me made your life better?

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Dec 25, 2016 08:09:29   #
PeterS
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian "boss" that something like 30% of Americans are so taken with. While Obama vilifies his political opposition by going on TV and spouting off, Putin silences his opposition by unleashing his FSB k**ler dogs.

The Putin Murders: A Brief History of Putintime

The info below is a sampling.

45-year-old former KGB agent Vladimir Putin is plucked from obscurity out of the St. Petersburg local government apparatus by President Boris Yeltsin and named Deputy Chief of Staff. In June, he defends his PhD dissertation in “strategic planning” at St. Petersburg’s Mining Institute. Later, this document proves to have been plagiarized from a KGB t***slation of work by U.S. professors published many years earlier (as if nobody would notice, and in fact for quite a while nobody did).

July 1998: In a second inexplicable move, Yeltsin names Putin head of the KGB (now called the FSB).

Putin's victims:

November 1998: Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova, murdered.

Completing a hat trick of bizarre spontaneous promotions, proud KGB spy Putin is named by Yeltsin Prime Minister of Russia. Almost immediately, Putin orders a massive bombing campaign against the tiny, defenseless breakaway republic of Chechnya, apparently seeing the reassertion of Russian power there as key to overall resurgence of Russia’s military and state security apparatus, his primary political objective. On August 26th, he’s forced to acknowledge the horrific consequences of the bombing. Hundreds of civilians are k**led and tens of thousands are left homeless as civilian targets are attacked.

April 2003: Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, murdered.

July 2003: Yuri Shchekochikhin, a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Duma and the Kovalev Commission, poisoned.

June 2004: Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, murdered in his apartment.

July 2004: Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

September 2004: Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.

September 2006: Andrei Kozlov, First Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering (basically acting on analyses like that of reporter Klebnikov), the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

October 2006: Anna Politkovskaya, author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and k**led at her home in Moscow.

November 2006: Alexander Litvinenko, KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki and Kashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources.

March 2007: On Sunday February 25th, the American TV news magazine Dateline NBC aired a report on the k*****g of Litvinenko. MSNBC also carried a report. The reports confirmed that British authorities believe Litvinenko perished in a “state-sponsored” assasination. In the opening of the broadcast, Dateline highlighted the analysis of a senior British reporter (Daniel McGrory, a senior correspondent for The Times of London) and a senior American expert on Russia who knew Litvinennko well. Five days before the broadcast aired, shortly after he was interviewed for it, McGrory was dead.

January 2009: Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and k**led was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.

July 2009: Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova (pictured, left), a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter.
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Nice Job Blade and I have to say I am a bit surprised. The only thing I would disagree with is your assessment of 30% of Americans and replace that instead with 70% of conservatives who find themselves enamored with Putin and his system of authoritarian justice. And I might add that at the top of that list of admirors is your man 'The Donald' who finds someone like Putin, who skirts the democratic process to insert his own individual will, as someone to be admired for his ability to control his country and bring order to the dysfunction of rudimentary democracy--all be it through the manor that you just described. The question begged is just how much of Putin's methodology will Trump try to emulate and what percent of that 70% will come to Trumps defense when he does. After all, it seems like pure reflex for you guys come to defend Trump anytime he is attacked without ever examining whether that attack was justified or not.

Anyway, Merry Christmas Blade and I hope you have a wonderful day with you and your...

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Dec 25, 2016 08:19:16   #
PeterS
 
Coos Bay Tom wrote:
I am definitely not in the 30% who approve of Putin---He is definitely not a friend to our country


He's a frenemy--the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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Dec 25, 2016 08:54:34   #
JFlorio Loc: Seminole Florida
 
I'm as Conservative as they come and I am no admirer of Putin. His people seem to be. Just because Trump is not saber rattling you call Trump and those who v**ed for him friends of Putin. Does that mean that 90% of you liberals are friendly of the Ayatollah of Iran? Obama gave him way more money than anything being talked about with Putin. Trump doesn't seem to want an antagonistic relationship right off the bat with a nuclear (modern) armed Russia that supplies much of the oil and gas to our allies. Until Trump actually bows to Putin or gives in economically and militarily all your BS is conjecture. I find it amazing that liberals are condemning something that hasn't happened yet but applauded Obama's friendship with the Muslim Brotherhood, the leaders of Iran and Cuba. It's no wonder you guys lose.
PeterS wrote:
Nice Job Blade and I have to say I am a bit surprised. The only thing I would disagree with is your assessment of 30% of Americans and replace that instead with 70% of conservatives who find themselves enamored with Putin and his system of authoritarian justice. And I might add that at the top of that list of admirors is your man 'The Donald' who finds someone like Putin, who skirts the democratic process to insert his own individual will, as someone to be admired for his ability to control his country and bring order to the dysfunction of rudimentary democracy--all be it through the manor that you just described. The question begged is just how much of Putin's methodology will Trump try to emulate and what percent of that 70% will come to Trumps defense when he does. After all, it seems like pure reflex for you guys come to defend Trump anytime he is attacked without ever examining whether that attack was justified or not.

Anyway, Merry Christmas Blade and I hope you have a wonderful day with you and your...
Nice Job Blade and I have to say I am a bit surpri... (show quote)

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Dec 25, 2016 10:44:08   #
solarkin
 
Steve700 wrote:
Both the Obama & the Clinton deadpool is bigger than that.


Yes,exactly what I was thinking.
Haiti,Bhengazi,Libya,Wash d.c.
Virginia,Yemen ,Ukraine. " etc etc.etc...."
Yul Brynner

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Dec 25, 2016 11:28:08   #
Ricko Loc: Florida
 
JFlorio wrote:
I'm as Conservative as they come and I am no admirer of Putin. His people seem to be. Just because Trump is not saber rattling you call Trump and those who v**ed for him friends of Putin. Does that mean that 90% of you liberals are friendly of the Ayatollah of Iran? Obama gave him way more money than anything being talked about with Putin. Trump doesn't seem to want an antagonistic relationship right off the bat with a nuclear (modern) armed Russia that supplies much of the oil and gas to our allies. Until Trump actually bows to Putin or gives in economically and militarily all your BS is conjecture. I find it amazing that liberals are condemning something that hasn't happened yet but applauded Obama's friendship with the Muslim Brotherhood, the leaders of Iran and Cuba. It's no wonder you guys lose.
I'm as Conservative as they come and I am no admir... (show quote)


Jim-exactly!!! These people obviously think that if someone is not an avowed enemy he/she has to be a dear friend. Believe Putin knows where he stands with Trump and we may need him to help us defeat ISIS. If we expect foreign governments to respect our leader than we need to respect theirs regardless of whether we like him ,or what he has done in the past, or not. As Steve 700 pointed out, his hit list is far shorter than that of the Clintons and the liberals chose Hillary to represent the democrat party in this past e******n. If Putin were to view us as an outright enemy and ally himself with Iran and China, where does that leave us and our weak European allies ? One plays hand which he/she is dealt and in this case I will opt for the Trump card. Good Luck America !!!

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Dec 25, 2016 13:54:30   #
Blade_Runner Loc: DARK SIDE OF THE MOON
 
PeterS wrote:
Nice Job Blade and I have to say I am a bit surprised. The only thing I would disagree with is your assessment of 30% of Americans and replace that instead with 70% of conservatives who find themselves enamored with Putin and his system of authoritarian justice. And I might add that at the top of that list of admirors is your man 'The Donald' who finds someone like Putin, who skirts the democratic process to insert his own individual will, as someone to be admired for his ability to control his country and bring order to the dysfunction of rudimentary democracy--all be it through the manor that you just described. The question begged is just how much of Putin's methodology will Trump try to emulate and what percent of that 70% will come to Trumps defense when he does. After all, it seems like pure reflex for you guys come to defend Trump anytime he is attacked without ever examining whether that attack was justified or not.

Anyway, Merry Christmas Blade and I hope you have a wonderful day with you and your...
Nice Job Blade and I have to say I am a bit surpri... (show quote)
I'm sorry that you had to turn this around into an attack on conservatives and Trump. So, I must once again put some perspective on this. What most, including the MSM, do not seem able to comprehend, is that Putin "cheerleaders" do not want Putin as their leader, they want the U.S. to have a leader that will put the interests of America and American citizens above that of the "international community", they want our President to protect and defend our nation as Putin does Russia. With that I have to agree.

And Merry Christmas to you.

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Dec 26, 2016 10:49:55   #
Homestead
 
Blade_Runner wrote:
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian "boss" that something like 30% of Americans are so taken with. While Obama vilifies his political opposition by going on TV and spouting off, Putin silences his opposition by unleashing his FSB k**ler dogs.

The Putin Murders: A Brief History of Putintime

The info below is a sampling.

45-year-old former KGB agent Vladimir Putin is plucked from obscurity out of the St. Petersburg local government apparatus by President Boris Yeltsin and named Deputy Chief of Staff. In June, he defends his PhD dissertation in “strategic planning” at St. Petersburg’s Mining Institute. Later, this document proves to have been plagiarized from a KGB t***slation of work by U.S. professors published many years earlier (as if nobody would notice, and in fact for quite a while nobody did).

July 1998: In a second inexplicable move, Yeltsin names Putin head of the KGB (now called the FSB).

Putin's victims:

November 1998: Duma Deputy Galina Starovoitova, murdered.

Completing a hat trick of bizarre spontaneous promotions, proud KGB spy Putin is named by Yeltsin Prime Minister of Russia. Almost immediately, Putin orders a massive bombing campaign against the tiny, defenseless breakaway republic of Chechnya, apparently seeing the reassertion of Russian power there as key to overall resurgence of Russia’s military and state security apparatus, his primary political objective. On August 26th, he’s forced to acknowledge the horrific consequences of the bombing. Hundreds of civilians are k**led and tens of thousands are left homeless as civilian targets are attacked.

April 2003: Sergei Yushenkov, co-chairman of the Liberal Russia political party, murdered.

July 2003: Yuri Shchekochikhin, a vocal opposition journalist and member of the Russian Duma and the Kovalev Commission, poisoned.

June 2004: Nikolai Girenko, a prominent human rights defender, murdered in his apartment.

July 2004: Paul Klebnikov, editor of the Russian edition Forbes magazine, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

September 2004: Viktor Yushchenko, anti-Russian candidate for the presidency of the Ukraine, is poisoned by Dioxin.

September 2006: Andrei Kozlov, First Deputy Chairman of Russia’s Central Bank, who strove to stamp out money laundering (basically acting on analyses like that of reporter Klebnikov), the highest-ranking reformer in Russia, is shot and k**led in Moscow.

October 2006: Anna Politkovskaya, author of countless books and articles exposing Russian human rights violations in Chechnya and attacking Vladimir Putin as a dictator, is shot and k**led at her home in Moscow.

November 2006: Alexander Litvinenko, KGB defector and author of the book Blowing up Russia, which accuses the Kremlin of masterminding the and Pechatniki and Kashirskoye bombings in order to blame Chechen terrorists and whip up support for an invasion of Chechnya (which shortly followed), is fatally poisoned by radioactive Polonium obtained from Russian sources.

March 2007: On Sunday February 25th, the American TV news magazine Dateline NBC aired a report on the k*****g of Litvinenko. MSNBC also carried a report. The reports confirmed that British authorities believe Litvinenko perished in a “state-sponsored” assasination. In the opening of the broadcast, Dateline highlighted the analysis of a senior British reporter (Daniel McGrory, a senior correspondent for The Times of London) and a senior American expert on Russia who knew Litvinennko well. Five days before the broadcast aired, shortly after he was interviewed for it, McGrory was dead.

January 2009: Russian human rights attorney Stanslav Markelov was shot in the back of the head with a silenced pistol as he left a press conference at which he announced his intention to sue the Russian government for its early release of the Col. Yuri Budanov, who murdered his 18-year-old client in Chechnya five years earlier. Also shot and k**led was Anastasia Barburova, a young journalism student who was working for Novaya Gazeta and who had studied under Anna Politkovskaya, reporting on the Budanov proceedings.

July 2009: Russian human rights journalist and activist Natalia Estemirova (pictured, left), a single mother of a teenaged daughter, was abducted in front of her home in Grozny, Chechnya, spirited across the border into Ingushetia, shot and dumped in a roadside gutter.
Thought I'd put some perspective on this Russian &... (show quote)



I think that's what Obama admired about Putin so much, his enemies diapered so quickly and easily.
Probably what Obama thought he could do, after the e******n, when he told Putin he'd have more flexibility.

The Obama Death Pool… ‘Mysterious’ Deaths Surround Obama
http://socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/the-obama-death-pool-mysterious-deaths-surround-obama/

Mysterious deaths surround Hillary and Bill Clinton, for their entire Political Careers.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/4dd24i/mysterious_deaths_surround_hillary_and_bill/

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Dec 26, 2016 10:59:56   #
Homestead
 
PeterS wrote:
Nice Job Blade and I have to say I am a bit surprised. The only thing I would disagree with is your assessment of 30% of Americans and replace that instead with 70% of conservatives who find themselves enamored with Putin and his system of authoritarian justice. And I might add that at the top of that list of admirors is your man 'The Donald' who finds someone like Putin, who skirts the democratic process to insert his own individual will, as someone to be admired for his ability to control his country and bring order to he dysfunction of rudimentary democracy--all be it through the manor that you just described. The question begged is just how much of Putin's methodology will Trump try to emulate and what percent of that 70% will come to Trumps defense when he does. After all, it seems like pure reflex for you guys come to defend Trump anytime he is attacked without ever examining whether that attack was justified or not.

Anyway, Merry Christmas Blade and I hope you have a wonderful day with you and your...
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It's not Trump that's emulating Putin's methodology and I've noticed that you haven't questioned Obama or the Clinton's on the disappearances of their political enemies.

The Obama Death Pool… ‘Mysterious’ Deaths Surround Obama
http://socialismisnottheanswer.wordpress.com/the-obama-death-pool-mysterious-deaths-surround-obama/

Mysterious deaths surround Hillary and Bill Clinton, for their entire Political Careers.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/4dd24i/mysterious_deaths_surround_hillary_and_bill/

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Dec 26, 2016 18:36:16   #
Robert Wilson Loc: Texas
 
Sounds like a close runner up for the Obama Clinton Administration.

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