Glaucon

What are some of those "thousands of stifling regulations and nonsensical statutes?" I have heard these talking points over and over, but no one has said what they are. A recent talking points were that Hillary is crooked and Obama lies. So far, no evidence of Hillary being crooked or Obama telling a lie, but those talking points travel on.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

If you really believe everyone that liked their medical plan kept their medical plan, B******i was caused by a video, and Hillary's speeches were worth $300,000.00, then you're stupid as a toadstool.

I don't think you are. I think you're pretending.

Glaucon

You seem to believe you have found all t***h and you have no need to consider your positions and factoids when some of us call bulls**t.

Our government is limited, but each individual cannot always have his very own way. Democracy is messy and only dictatorships can be really neat and efficient. I prefer our messy, confusing democracy to the alternative.

Glaucon

You make black/white arguments and are apparently unaware of it. Read some of your posts.

moldyoldy

T***h
Australia: 28.5%, however some specialized entities are taxed at lower rates.[13]
Canada: Federal 11%, or Federal 15% plus provincial 1% to 16%. Note: the rates are additive.[14]
Hong Kong: 16.5%[15]
Ireland: 12.5% on trading (business) income, and 25% on non-trading income.[16]
New Zealand: 28%
Singapore: 17% from 2010, however a partial exemption scheme may apply to new companies.[17]
United Kingdom: 20% to 21% for 2014–2015.[18]
United Kingdom: 20% for 2016[19]
United States: Federal 15% to 35%.[20] States: 0% to 10%, deductible in computing Federal taxable income. Some cities: up to 9%, deductible in computing Federal taxable income. The Federal Alternative Minimum Tax of 20% is imposed on regular taxable income with adjustments.

Glaucon

I won't go into it, again, but the one "example" of an Obama "lie" would not meet any normal person's definition of a lie. I am not sure that Obama knew that some medical plans failed to meet minimum standards at the time he made that statement. No one ever said that the video was THE cause of the B******i mess, but there was evidence it was part of the cause. Black/white argument, here? If I were offered $300,000 to give a lecture I would probably take the offer although my speech might be worth more or less that that amount. Sarah Palin's daughter who got knocked up twice is being paid $35.000 per speech to for speeches about not having sex before marriage. Now that is a lot for a very little from someone of no stature.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Dave,

American Farmers.... The family farm was given the death knell by Reagan s "freedom to farm" program. That opened the way for the corporate farms that produce the vast majority of our food these days. Cow farts, that was a joke chuckled over by the on the ground inspectors. Was picked up and now is in the bible of conservative knowledge.. You all think that was gospel..

Government inspectors are over worked and given impossible goals because congress has refused requests for funding and staffing as needed by a growing food industry.

Banks forced to give loans??? What a foolish statement.. As soon as banks got past the long existing regulations, they tossed out bad loans as fast as the could write them. Then those loans whent into the derivative market and banks made money by losing money..

Yet you would leave bank to make those types of decisions with not regulations to slow them down? Lord help this nation...

Glaucon

Keep in mind that none of those countries have military bases in approximately one thousand sites around the world and that costs money we can either borrow from China or raise our own taxes. We have several wars going on as I write this and wars aren't cheap. We all ready up to our asses indebt because we have been letting our debt pile up rather that taxing ourselves for the things most of you apparently want.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

What are you talking about?
Yes, I think I'm right when I say something of a factual nature... Duh... Just because I don't agree with something doesn't mean I don't consider it.

A great example is your post where you say there's no evidence of Obama telling a lie or Hillary being corrupt... That doesn't take long to consider. It's obviously click-bait.

Dictatorships are what happens when government gets too powerful. Dictatorships do not occur when government is properly limited.

permafrost Loc: Minnesota

Don,

Your and economist, yket you did not look at trumps tax plan..it will give himself, business and people of his wealth great reductions and raise the national debt over 4 trillion dollars.

Clinton for her credit, would incrase the natl debt, about 250 billion dollars

Reagan and the tax act of 1984 was, among other things, sold as a solution to the SS problems created by the then coming rush of retirements. But it did not go to SS, Reagan stole that money and put it in the general fund because his tax reduction to the rich left the country unable to pay its bill.

deregulation made possible the Bush recession from which we are only the last few years recovering from.

It astounds me that you claim a background in economics and make these claims..

Glaucon

Your last sentence is accurate and is supported by evidence and common sense, the rest of you post, not at all.

Big Bass

There are only three ways to get rich quick: 1) Inherit it
2) Win it in a lottery
3) Embezzle it.
If you are rich and you wish to stay rich, or become richer, you must invest your wealth. If you do, say, invest in a company, you need that company to grow, so your investment grows. The bigger it grows, the more people you employ, so the unemployed who get one of new jobs is now a tax-paying worker, instead of a draw on the system. (For simplicity, say he was drawing $20,000 unemployment, and now pays $10,000 in income tax. That's $30,000 for the government!) This new worker now has a disposable income and can spread his new money around on a new car, house, etc. These new car companies, home builders, home-appliance makers, etc. are now growing and need more workers, and so on, and so on....
Along comes a nasty liberal/c*******t government and slaps on very high taxes on rich people. The rich take their money out of the country and invest it in external tax-havens, where it does no good whatsoever to this country. But it does make the tax-haven country get fuller employment and therefore very competitive on the world market.
The moral of this story? NEVER V**E FOR A LIBERAL/C*******T GOVERNMENT!!

Nuclearian Loc: I live in a Fascist, Liberal State

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California besting Texas in creating jobs, economic growth

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For the millions of I******S, it don't count. We talking about AMERICAN citizens.

Larry the Legend Loc: Not hiding in Milton

Well, if that which governs least governs best, then, by extension, that which governs not at all governs best of all. Can anyone tell me one thing that government (any government) does, that private individuals operating in a free market cannot improve upon? Just one single solitary thing is all I ask.

Super Dave Loc: Realville, USA

National Defense.