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Dec 28, 2013 16:19:06   #
oldladyfromwaco
 
Blah blah blah blah blah blah!




jay-are wrote:
9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

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Dec 30, 2013 11:02:10   #
jay-are
 
jay-are wrote:
9 For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, 10 so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.!


oldladyfromwaco wrote:
Blah blah blah blah blah blah!


Now we see why you don't go to any church anymore. There is not one Christian minister that will denounce that verse and agree with you.

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Dec 30, 2013 18:15:18   #
oldladyfromwaco
 
Judgy, judgy, judgy, blah blah blah. I don't go to church for one reason.....people like you.



jay-are wrote:
Now we see why you don't go to any church anymore. There is not one Christian minister that will denounce that verse and agree with you.

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Dec 30, 2013 18:37:28   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldladyfromwaco wrote:
Judgy, judgy, judgy, blah blah blah. I don't go to church for one reason.....people like you.


You don't love people like Jay-are?

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Dec 31, 2013 11:28:42   #
oldladyfromwaco
 
I love everyone....as a child of God.....BUT....I CHOOSE those I associate with. And those based in and on religion and no spirituality are not ever included in my realm of associates or friends.
My CHOICE......gus, not great at all.....or....were you here earlier using another name.....



Augustus Greatorex wrote:
You don't love people like Jay-are?

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Dec 31, 2013 11:43:02   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldladyfromwaco wrote:
I love everyone....as a child of God.....BUT....I CHOOSE those I associate with. And those based in and on religion and no spirituality are not ever included in my realm of associates or friends.
My CHOICE......gus, not great at all.....or....were you here earlier using another name.....


What do you mean love, "agape" I think you called it, sacrificing what?

What do you sacrifice in your love?

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Dec 31, 2013 13:37:53   #
oldladyfromwaco
 
The ego.....the "other self" opposing God.....the who must ALWAYS have its way.....who has no humility, consideration, compassion, or thought of others or their wishes, lives, etc......which seems to pretty well describe you and jay...
Agape, the truest of all loves, is love for the sake of love....accepting ALL there is in anyone no matter what....even if they are on death row for murdering a hundred people. There is no judgment, condemnation, negativity of any kind....just pure love....that must flow from God through you to them.....the sacrifice of anything humanly created for the purity of God's love....and it is reciprocal....from God, it helps them.....and you.


Augustus Greatorex wrote:
What do you mean love, "agape" I think you called it, sacrificing what?

What do you sacrifice in your love?

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Dec 31, 2013 14:21:12   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldladyfromwaco wrote:
The ego.....the "other self" opposing God.....the who must ALWAYS have its way.....who has no humility, consideration, compassion, or thought of others or their wishes, lives, etc......which seems to pretty well describe you and jay...
Agape, the truest of all loves, is love for the sake of love....accepting ALL there is in anyone no matter what....even if they are on death row for murdering a hundred people. There is no judgment, condemnation, negativity of any kind....just pure love....that must flow from God through you to them.....the sacrifice of anything humanly created for the purity of God's love....and it is reciprocal....from God, it helps them.....and you.
The ego.....the "other self" opposing Go... (show quote)


Choosing not to associate with certain of God's children is exemplary of "accepting ALL there is in anyone no matter what...."?

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Dec 31, 2013 17:13:49   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldladyfromwaco wrote:
The ego.....the "other self" opposing God.....the who must ALWAYS have its way.....who has no humility, consideration, compassion, or thought of others or their wishes, lives, etc......which seems to pretty well describe you and jay...
Agape, the truest of all loves, is love for the sake of love....accepting ALL there is in anyone no matter what....even if they are on death row for murdering a hundred people. There is no judgment, condemnation, negativity of any kind....just pure love....that must flow from God through you to them.....the sacrifice of anything humanly created for the purity of God's love....and it is reciprocal....from God, it helps them.....and you.
The ego.....the "other self" opposing Go... (show quote)


Here's something I've always figured. I'd much rather friends tell me what they honestly think whether I desire to hear it or not. Than to have hidden things that they don't tell me. Because this is what I want from my friends, I try to address people I want as friends in such a manner.

That directness offends you, bothers me. I don't understand why.

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Dec 31, 2013 20:08:44   #
oldladyfromwaco
 
What I am going to say is frank....calm....t***hful.
I do not consider you a friend. None of my friends behave as you do. I CHOOSE my friends.....and would never choose you.
You do not represent any of the attributes I require in my friends. And, my friends do tell me the t***h. BUT, they never attempt to force anything on me.....and know that I do not believe as you.....and would NEVER expect me to endure the idiocy you continue to dish out.....when repeatedly requests to desist.
You haven't the balls to search out the t***h....the proven historical fact based t***h.....not what the politicos have arranged through the centuries for you to consume.
That's the difference between you and my friends. They are not afraid of the t***h....and continue to seek daily through their lives for the guidance from God. We live lives you would not comprehend. You have no conception of what it is like to live as we do.
And, your "directness"....it isn't direct. It is your opinion, based on a text arranged by men for no reason other than political control.
So, believe as you choose, and have the consideration to leave me alone....






Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Here's something I've always figured. I'd much rather friends tell me what they honestly think whether I desire to hear it or not. Than to have hidden things that they don't tell me. Because this is what I want from my friends, I try to address people I want as friends in such a manner.

That directness offends you, bothers me. I don't understand why.

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Jan 1, 2014 01:31:52   #
Augustus Greatorex Loc: NE
 
oldladyfromwaco wrote:
What I am going to say is frank....calm....t***hful.
I do not consider you a friend. None of my friends behave as you do. I CHOOSE my friends.....and would never choose you.
You do not represent any of the attributes I require in my friends. And, my friends do tell me the t***h. BUT, they never attempt to force anything on me.....and know that I do not believe as you.....and would NEVER expect me to endure the idiocy you continue to dish out.....when repeatedly requests to desist.
You haven't the balls to search out the t***h....the proven historical fact based t***h.....not what the politicos have arranged through the centuries for you to consume.
That's the difference between you and my friends. They are not afraid of the t***h....and continue to seek daily through their lives for the guidance from God. We live lives you would not comprehend. You have no conception of what it is like to live as we do.
And, your "directness"....it isn't direct. It is your opinion, based on a text arranged by men for no reason other than political control.
So, believe as you choose, and have the consideration to leave me alone....
What I am going to say is frank....calm....t***hfu... (show quote)


Negative.

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Jan 1, 2014 10:17:25   #
oldladyfromwaco
 
In the middle of the night, early morning really, I awoke and watched a program on PBS that I had scheduled for recording. It was called, I believe, "From Jesus to Christ", and was narrated by renowned spokesmen and women from schools of religion and divinity around the world. You can find this program and watch it on your computer at pbs.org. I recommend it to you, as you will see that these people, some older than I, have spent their entire lives and careers researching and learning about and from the Bible. You might enjoy it, it approached with an open mind. Whether you do this now....or later......this is a required course.....only the time you take it is optional.

Someday, gus....not great at all......you will grow into this.

I also looked up the definition of friend.

noun
&#10625; 1a person whom one knows and with whom one has a bond of mutual affection, typically exclusive of sexual or family relations.
&#10625; a person who acts as a supporter of a cause, organization, or country by giving financial or other help:join the Friends of Guilford Free Library
&#10625; a person who is not an enemy or who is on the same side:she was unsure whether he was friend or foe
&#10625; a familiar or helpful thing:he settled for that old friend the compensation grant
&#10625; (often as a polite form of address or in ironic reference) an acquaintance or a stranger one comes across:my friends, let me introduce myself
&#10625; a contact associated with a social networking website:all of a sudden you’ve got 50 friends online who need to stay connected
&#10625; 2 (Friend) a member of the Religious Society of Friends; a Quaker.
verb
[with object]
&#10625; 1add (someone) to a list of contacts associated with a social networking website:I am friended by 29 people who I have not friended back
&#10625; 2 archaic befriend (someone).
Phrases

be (or make) friends with
be (or become) on good or affectionate terms with (someone).

a friend at court
a person in a position to use their influence on one’s behalf.

a friend in need is a friend indeed
proverb a person who helps at a difficult time is a truly reliable person.

friends in high places
people in senior positions who are able and willing to use their influence on one’s behalf.

with friends like ——, who needs enemies?
used to suggest that a supposed friend or ally of a particular person has acted against the best interests of that person:with friends like this guy, who needs enemies?

These definitions include, it seems, friendship on the basis of need. My friends, true friends, have no need from or of me....nor I of them. To me, that is the truest form of friendship.








Augustus Greatorex wrote:
Negative.

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