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Oct 6, 2016 12:35:01   #
Abel
 
Wealthy people aren't necessarily all bad. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. But they do pay taxes just like everyone else. Without wealthy people, this country would have never been formed by the "Framers!" By the way, have you ever been offered a job by a poor person?

I don't know why you would be upset that Donald Trump was smart enough to use the 1000 plus pages of the IRS tax laws the Democrats wrote to benefit their Democrat elite. Democrats are simply pissed off that someone was able to read and figure out their convoluted tax planning to the point of being able to use it as they intended, and he happens to be running for president. They need fodder to throw at Mr. Trump to smear him, so they scream their hypocritical agitprop at him. Unfortunately, most sheeple aren't smart enough to see through their smokescreen. Democrats have a terrible time winning a f**r e******n, which is why they lie, c***t, and steal to win, and also why they need no v**er photo IDs, open borders, and i*****l a***ns, to buy their v**es with their unconstitutional "prizes and benefits!" They are truly the "Kings Tax Collectors" robbing the poor to benefit the rich; I can't recall any tax program that was not written by the Democrats, nor a failed city that wasn't under Democratic control. There is a vast difference between a "Hand Up," and a "Handout!" Poor Democrats have been v****g Democrat for many decades, and they are still poor and listening to the Democrats promising to make their lives better; it'll be a long wait!

Mr. Trump did nothing illegal, and nothing any other businessman would not do in similar circumstances to save their businesses. Ignorant people tend to view it as "wrong or immoral" simply because of the magnitude involved, but it is no different than what they themselves would do if their tax planner was smart enough to handle a loss for them. Even those who prepare their own taxes, as I do, many times pay more tax than they should because they don't take the time to read and analyze the Democrats tax code. Don't punish those who do take the time to figure it out, because you are punishing them for following the law, as it is written, and that is what we are all supposed to do. If you would just go after those who actually c***t on their taxes you wouldn't have time to worry about those who don't. If you don't like the law as it is, there are legal procedures to change it. We have so many laws written by our "lawmakers," our Congressmen, that there is little one can do anymore without breaking some law somewhere in our law books. The Democrats tend to write nebulous laws in order to confuse the masses and make it possible to interpret the laws whichever way they choose to further some cause or another that they are fond of or simply to get someone in trouble that they don't happen to like. It is a farcical game the lawyers play, mostly for their own benefit; for example, the law Congress wrote to give themselves a raise every year or so UNLESS THEY V**E NOT TO HAVE A RAISE; fat chance of that ever happening because it would never get a majority v**e in a greedy Congress.

So, you are right about the IRS system being at fault, but you are dead wrong to listen to the Democrat's slanderous agitprop and use it as a reason not to v**e for Donald Trump. If you do, you are just another hypocritical Socialist G*******t falling for the New World Order agitprop to destroy the United States and our culture, border, and language, that so many Patriots have fought and died for. Don't be led astray by these Socialist/C*******t bastards that want us to follow their i***tology and live under their "utopian" system that is doomed to failure. No "Democracy" has ever survived throughout history; they always fail because the wealthy elite deplete the treasury for their own enrichment due to their greed and desire for controlling the sheeple. Remember, the United States is NOT a Democracy as the Socialists continue to erroneously call it, it is a Constitutionally limited Republic, and that is the way it should be treated. Read your Constitution, if you have a copy, and become aware of what you will be losing if you continue to follow the Socialists. If you don't have a copy of the Constitution you should get one. Have a nice day.


Glaucon wrote:
Donald trump obeyed the current law and was still able to not pay any taxes for almost twenty years and you have had to pay taxes every year. WHY? The answer is, the plutocracy.

The wealthy buy our legislators that make the laws that Trump and his fellow billionaires follow to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob" Franklin Delano Roosevelt

“Only the little people pay taxes,”
leona helmsley

"The really rich people figure out how to dodge taxes anyway." George W. Bush

Definition of plutocracy: government by the wealthy.
o
o
o a country or society governed by the wealthy.
o
an elite or ruling class of people whose power derives from their wealth.
Donald trump obeyed the current law and was still... (show quote)

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Oct 6, 2016 12:39:16   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
What is the big deal about taxes on the rich . The Clintons did the same crap as Trump did but the i***t Liberal blows everything up concerning Trump . They are all scum bags the rich does not pay ther

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Oct 6, 2016 12:47:07   #
fullspinzoo
 
Abel wrote:
Wealthy people aren't necessarily all bad. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. But they do pay taxes just like everyone else. Without wealthy people, this country would have never been formed by the "Framers!" By the way, have you ever been offered a job by a poor person?

I don't know why you would be upset that Donald Trump was smart enough to use the 1000 plus pages of the IRS tax laws the Democrats wrote to benefit their Democrat elite. Democrats are simply pissed off that someone was able to read and figure out their convoluted tax planning to the point of being able to use it as they intended, and he happens to be running for president. They need fodder to throw at Mr. Trump to smear him, so they scream their hypocritical agitprop at him. Unfortunately, most sheeple aren't smart enough to see through their smokescreen. Democrats have a terrible time winning a f**r e******n, which is why they lie, c***t, and steal to win, and also why they need no v**er photo IDs, open borders, and i*****l a***ns, to buy their v**es with their unconstitutional "prizes and benefits!" They are truly the "Kings Tax Collectors" robbing the poor to benefit the rich; I can't recall any tax program that was not written by the Democrats, nor a failed city that wasn't under Democratic control. There is a vast difference between a "Hand Up," and a "Handout!" Poor Democrats have been v****g Democrat for many decades, and they are still poor and listening to the Democrats promising to make their lives better; it'll be a long wait!

Mr. Trump did nothing illegal, and nothing any other businessman would not do in similar circumstances to save their businesses. Ignorant people tend to view it as "wrong or immoral" simply because of the magnitude involved, but it is no different than what they themselves would do if their tax planner was smart enough to handle a loss for them. Even those who prepare their own taxes, as I do, many times pay more tax than they should because they don't take the time to read and analyze the Democrats tax code. Don't punish those who do take the time to figure it out, because you are punishing them for following the law, as it is written, and that is what we are all supposed to do. If you would just go after those who actually c***t on their taxes you wouldn't have time to worry about those who don't. If you don't like the law as it is, there are legal procedures to change it. We have so many laws written by our "lawmakers," our Congressmen, that there is little one can do anymore without breaking some law somewhere in our law books. The Democrats tend to write nebulous laws in order to confuse the masses and make it possible to interpret the laws whichever way they choose to further some cause or another that they are fond of or simply to get someone in trouble that they don't happen to like. It is a farcical game the lawyers play, mostly for their own benefit; for example, the law Congress wrote to give themselves a raise every year or so UNLESS THEY V**E NOT TO HAVE A RAISE; fat chance of that ever happening because it would never get a majority v**e in a greedy Congress.

So, you are right about the IRS system being at fault, but you are dead wrong to listen to the Democrat's slanderous agitprop and use it as a reason not to v**e for Donald Trump. If you do, you are just another hypocritical Socialist G*******t falling for the New World Order agitprop to destroy the United States and our culture, border, and language, that so many Patriots have fought and died for. Don't be led astray by these Socialist/C*******t bastards that want us to follow their i***tology and live under their "utopian" system that is doomed to failure. No "Democracy" has ever survived throughout history; they always fail because the wealthy elite deplete the treasury for their own enrichment due to their greed and desire for controlling the sheeple. Remember, the United States is NOT a Democracy as the Socialists continue to erroneously call it, it is a Constitutionally limited Republic, and that is the way it should be treated. Read your Constitution, if you have a copy, and become aware of what you will be losing if you continue to follow the Socialists. If you don't have a copy of the Constitution you should get one. Have a nice day.
Wealthy people aren't necessarily all bad. Unfortu... (show quote)

Even when someone like Trump plays by the book, is on the up and up, (something Hillary knows nothing about) they (the Left) try to crucify you. Hillary lies her ass off, breaks every law possible, is the most obnoxious candidate in politics today and she's looked upon as the Queen. Trump plays by the book and he's looked down upon. Go figure.

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Oct 6, 2016 14:16:25   #
Nickolai
 
fullspinzoo wrote:
That's why Hillary keeps taking those bribes....from any country that is willing to give. Even those countries that treat women like pure s**t. You know, they don't let women drive, they have to stay covered up, they can't talk to other men unless a relative But she's the poster girl for women's rights?
Give me a break. Sharia Law- list of key rules.









So what their money is helpful in the foundations work. Clinton Development Initiative staff in Africa train rural farmers and help them get access to seeds, equipment and markets for their crops.
Clinton Climate Initiative staff help governments in Africa and the Caribbean region with reforestation efforts, and in island nations to help develop renewable energy projects.
Staff at the Clinton Health Access Initiative, an independent, affiliated entity, work in dozens of nations to lower the cost of HIV/AIDS medicine, scale up pediatric AIDS treatment and promote treatment of diarrhea through life-saving Zinc/ORS treatment.
Clinton Health Matters staff work with local governments and businesses in the United States to develop wellness and physical activity plans.

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Oct 6, 2016 15:08:34   #
cesspool jones Loc: atlanta
 
Abel wrote:
Wealthy people aren't necessarily all bad. Unfortunately, I'm not one of them. But they do pay taxes just like everyone else. Without wealthy people, this country would have never been formed by the "Framers!" By the way, have you ever been offered a job by a poor person?

I don't know why you would be upset that Donald Trump was smart enough to use the 1000 plus pages of the IRS tax laws the Democrats wrote to benefit their Democrat elite. Democrats are simply pissed off that someone was able to read and figure out their convoluted tax planning to the point of being able to use it as they intended, and he happens to be running for president. They need fodder to throw at Mr. Trump to smear him, so they scream their hypocritical agitprop at him. Unfortunately, most sheeple aren't smart enough to see through their smokescreen. Democrats have a terrible time winning a f**r e******n, which is why they lie, c***t, and steal to win, and also why they need no v**er photo IDs, open borders, and i*****l a***ns, to buy their v**es with their unconstitutional "prizes and benefits!" They are truly the "Kings Tax Collectors" robbing the poor to benefit the rich; I can't recall any tax program that was not written by the Democrats, nor a failed city that wasn't under Democratic control. There is a vast difference between a "Hand Up," and a "Handout!" Poor Democrats have been v****g Democrat for many decades, and they are still poor and listening to the Democrats promising to make their lives better; it'll be a long wait!

Mr. Trump did nothing illegal, and nothing any other businessman would not do in similar circumstances to save their businesses. Ignorant people tend to view it as "wrong or immoral" simply because of the magnitude involved, but it is no different than what they themselves would do if their tax planner was smart enough to handle a loss for them. Even those who prepare their own taxes, as I do, many times pay more tax than they should because they don't take the time to read and analyze the Democrats tax code. Don't punish those who do take the time to figure it out, because you are punishing them for following the law, as it is written, and that is what we are all supposed to do. If you would just go after those who actually c***t on their taxes you wouldn't have time to worry about those who don't. If you don't like the law as it is, there are legal procedures to change it. We have so many laws written by our "lawmakers," our Congressmen, that there is little one can do anymore without breaking some law somewhere in our law books. The Democrats tend to write nebulous laws in order to confuse the masses and make it possible to interpret the laws whichever way they choose to further some cause or another that they are fond of or simply to get someone in trouble that they don't happen to like. It is a farcical game the lawyers play, mostly for their own benefit; for example, the law Congress wrote to give themselves a raise every year or so UNLESS THEY V**E NOT TO HAVE A RAISE; fat chance of that ever happening because it would never get a majority v**e in a greedy Congress.

So, you are right about the IRS system being at fault, but you are dead wrong to listen to the Democrat's slanderous agitprop and use it as a reason not to v**e for Donald Trump. If you do, you are just another hypocritical Socialist G*******t falling for the New World Order agitprop to destroy the United States and our culture, border, and language, that so many Patriots have fought and died for. Don't be led astray by these Socialist/C*******t bastards that want us to follow their i***tology and live under their "utopian" system that is doomed to failure. No "Democracy" has ever survived throughout history; they always fail because the wealthy elite deplete the treasury for their own enrichment due to their greed and desire for controlling the sheeple. Remember, the United States is NOT a Democracy as the Socialists continue to erroneously call it, it is a Constitutionally limited Republic, and that is the way it should be treated. Read your Constitution, if you have a copy, and become aware of what you will be losing if you continue to follow the Socialists. If you don't have a copy of the Constitution you should get one. Have a nice day.
Wealthy people aren't necessarily all bad. Unfortu... (show quote)


Glaucon lives on a one way street just like all these other c*******t far-left punks on OPP. They think the Constitution is antique.

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Oct 6, 2016 15:13:14   #
Glaucon
 
Nickolai wrote:
So what their money is helpful in the foundations work. Clinton Development Initiative staff in Africa train rural farmers and help them get access to seeds, equipment and markets for their crops.
Clinton Climate Initiative staff help governments in Africa and the Caribbean region with reforestation efforts, and in island nations to help develop renewable energy projects.
Staff at the Clinton Health Access Initiative, an independent, affiliated entity, work in dozens of nations to lower the cost of HIV/AIDS medicine, scale up pediatric AIDS treatment and promote treatment of diarrhea through life-saving Zinc/ORS treatment.
Clinton Health Matters staff work with local governments and businesses in the United States to develop wellness and physical activity plans.
So what their money is helpful in the foundations ... (show quote)


Nick, You are trying to get some thinking going in some people who still believe Obama is a Muslim, that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that Obama was born in Kenya, and that Donald Trump is sufficiently mentally stable to be president.

I became a religious agnostic when I was praying and realized I was talking to myself.

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Oct 6, 2016 15:23:23   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
The H Clinton has broken every law possible but everyone looks other way because they want the b***h in the WH , " Hell of High Water " !
H Clinton is very evil women but they do not care at all ! The whole e******n is r****d because the i***t G Soros is funding illegal v**es in certain states that will swing the e******n towards the liar H Clinton !

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Oct 6, 2016 15:54:27   #
Glaucon
 
Holdenbeach4u wrote:
The H Clinton has broken every law possible but everyone looks other way because they want the b***h in the WH , " Hell of High Water " !
H Clinton is very evil women but they do not care at all ! The whole e******n is r****d because the i***t G Soros is funding illegal v**es in certain states that will swing the e******n towards the liar H Clinton !


If any of your assumptions were true, your conclusions would be true and I would be agreeing with you, Your anger is causing you to say some very silly things. Calm down.

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Oct 6, 2016 17:07:43   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
Really , she is the next president unless the US People wake up on Nov 8 and elected DJ Trump . Everyone thinks she got it in the bag but the GB people woke up and v**er out of EU ! Time will tell !

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Oct 6, 2016 18:08:56   #
iFrank Loc: San Antonio
 
Glaucon wrote:
Nick, You are trying to get some thinking going in some people who still believe Obama is a Muslim, that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction, that Obama was born in Kenya, and that Donald Trump is sufficiently mentally stable to be president.

I became a religious agnostic when I was praying and realized I was talking to myself.


I have the DVD that show when he said he is and will side with Muslims. Do you still deny it?http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY

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Oct 6, 2016 20:22:25   #
Glaucon
 
iFrank wrote:
I have the DVD that show when he said he is and will side with Muslims. Do you still deny it?http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY


With photo shopping and a few clips of out of context talk, a video can be made to say just about anything, Don't you think the Obama h**ers would be on it 24/7 if there was any t***h to it?

I don't think you would be able to do so, but you might see, http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/coilofrage.asp Let me know what you think and if that changes you beliefs in any way.

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Oct 6, 2016 20:30:20   #
Headsup
 
Turd U R misguided and confused. Firstly I'm going to give everyone the facts if they like to read. But like yourself, I see you don't do much of that. Probably listen to the progressive news outlets and listen to people on the street that have not information. That is your choice!

Now, read facts: http://www.wnd.com/2016/08/so-how-did-the-clintons-get-so-rich/
https://www.2016t***hs.com/?utm_campaign=16mano31&utm_medium=text&utm_source=google&gclid=CIXW4uWgx88CFcNZhgodAM0L6A
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/4/state-dept-misplaced-6b-under-hillary-clinton-ig-r/
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-15/clinton-foundation-ceo-admits-pay-play-no-question-courtesy-appointments-were-made
The last one there, you might personally research what pay for play is. It's unethical if not illegal, think about it.

You do understand why the birther issue was around for sometime, don't you? It's because Obama reused to show it for 2-1/2 yrs. Just a simple thing to do and he wouldn't do it. Ask yourself, would you mind showing your birth certificate?

Now the h**e and r****m thing was helped by Obama himself on, half baked statements with no facts, just jumping the gun. Those words "jumping the gun" is Obamas, not mine. R****m will always be with us, that's the way it's been for ever. No one ever agues about the good, people do, because it's unarguable. So people always point to the illegal,bad behavior,bad records, immoral behavior etc.etc.etc. that they do, rightly so.

What people need to do now, is, v**e according to complete record of the parties record and what they have done to correct the problems they created;as far back as they can to vet the individuals. The problem is: Trump is not a politician, you can only go on what he pans to do while he's POTUS. Everything in-between is a dog and pony show and has no relevance on what he will do in office.

There is an awful lot of negatives on the life time members of politicians. Everyone should check history, and the v****g that these pelicans have v**ed on and policies they've submitted. There is too short a time to really get into the histrionics of the scum in the political scheme.



tdsrnest wrote:
He gamed the system, he used the system, to obtain his wealth. I just can't imagine how you can support a guy who lies, insults the handycapped, insult women, screw his contractors, vendor, and employees, degrade Mexicans, Muslims , this man is a proven pathological lying prick and you can't see it. He pays no federal Taxes but yet he takes advantage of everything that made this country great. He never gave anything to this country, but he took everything he could get and walk over everybody he could to obtain more wealth for himself. He has openly humiliated his wives his children with other women.
He has obtained great wealth but had nothing for anybody except for himself. Donald Trump had no friends he buys his friends.
Donald Trump has used this country and its laws to gain great wealth for himself he had done nothing for anybody he stated a foundation and did nothing for charity. He used other people's money to pay for political favors, to buy personnel gifts, but critize the Clinton foundation which has helped millions of people around the world and come up with the pay for play. But that prick takes $30,000 to buy a 6 Ft high painting of himself.
So don't tell me this prick had the right to do what he did. What the hell is wrong with you people this man has done nothing for this country he had sacrificed nothing for this country. But he had taken everything he could get and gave nothing back.
I listen to this prick say that Clinton who has spent 40 years in public service she had a track record of doing great things for kids and the first responders after 9/11 she fought for these people and kids the work she did for the handycapped kids, the work she did for civil rights, the millions of kids around the world that are staving and women with health issues, AIDS victims, obesity awareness. Has everything the Clintons every done were right were there indiscretions in here life with Bill, were there comments made by Clinton that were wrong OFCOURSE there was. But how can this pathological lying prick say that she had done nothing for this country when all this prick had done is gamed the system and walked over the small people.
But the GOP over the last 7 years with this prick leading the charge on the Birther issue which created so many conspiracy theories that generated all the h**e and r****m in this country. The phony scandals championed by this prick Trump just might become president if Russia Can game this political system.

But Trump all I can say what has this prick ever sacrificed for this country. Absolutly nothing
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Oct 7, 2016 13:14:30   #
KiraSeer2016
 
demh8tr wrote:
Speaking of (it's spelled) handicapped, what have you sacrificed for this country? What has your gay lover Obama sacrificed? You are a totally, brain dead, America hating lunatic.


Forget Turd. He h**es anyone who has more than he does.

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Oct 7, 2016 15:27:32   #
JIM BETHEA
 
Hillary's owners must be running scared because "Lady Rothschild" has come out of hiding to openly promote Hillary and the NWO ~~ There were only one article about this scheme on Yahoo and none on any of the other Elitist controlled medias ~ One that I read stated that the Rothschild's monetary worth was between $20-$100 Billion ~~ hee hee ~~ The Rothschild Dynasty net worth has been stated at over $500 Trillion and possibly an additional of close to $200 Trillion since they now own the Bank of England and The London Gold Exchange ~~~ Maybe they were talking about their "Daily Income" ~ If I were Trump I would be thinking of buying one of those "bullet-proof glass bubble Mercedes" like the Pope rides around in''''''' For over 200 years these criminal Rothschilds have demanded secrecy in all of the connections to their worldwide cabals, but now that they are floating to the surface, must mean that their Endgame is in jeopardy? From the start the name Rothschild was a fraud ~ their birth name was Bauers ~ a German Jewish name, but was changed when he sent his 5 sons out over Europe to establish their "fractional lending deceptions" ~ During such years when a German Jewish enterprise would not have been so widely accepted''''''''' So if Trump were to lose, then forget the guns rights to own and welcome in their Global Corporate Control

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Oct 7, 2016 17:46:25   #
Holdenbeach4u Loc: Holden Beach , NC
 
Guns in the USA too darn many to stop the flow and plenty ammo too!
These people can stop small groups of i***ts but the Military will stop the other strong i***ts think they can controlled the government !

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