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Sep 1, 2016 12:26:42   #
vernon
 
jelun wrote:
Can we count how many Republicans have repudiated the GOP this summer?



no but you can count the number rinos that have put down on trump.

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Sep 1, 2016 12:37:10   #
vernon
 
jelun wrote:
Just admit that Republicans started an illegal war, lied to the US as a whole, and deleted millions and millions of emails?
Why argue to protect them? Who do you think Trump is screaming about?



what illegal war?i hope your not talking about iraq because he was getting his intel from g tennent who was a demorat.how could it be illegal when the senate voted for war,you know the likes of kerry (WHO DOSENT WANT THE NEWS ON TERRIOR REPORTED ,THEN NO ONE WOULD KNOW HOW SCREWED UP IS.)and of course bengasi hillery voted for it and good old read.your problem, is you are so wrong you just ignore facts and create your own.

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Sep 1, 2016 17:01:57   #
moldyoldy
 
vernon wrote:
what illegal war?i hope your not talking about iraq because he was getting his intel from g tennent who was a demorat.how could it be illegal when the senate voted for war,you know the likes of kerry (WHO DOSENT WANT THE NEWS ON TERRIOR REPORTED ,THEN NO ONE WOULD KNOW HOW SCREWED UP IS.)and of course bengasi hillery voted for it and good old read.your problem, is you are so wrong you just ignore facts and create your own.


Bush/cheney created their own intelligence reporting group, so that they could take all the debunked intel and pretend it was real. That is how they got people to vote for the Iraq war, using lies.

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Sep 2, 2016 11:15:26   #
vernon
 




hey you forgot about ol bill giving n korea the electronics that made their missiles operable and the ability to build an atomic weapon.and hillery selling russia our uranium stores to for a nice donation to her foundation.and as far as ny times ,politfact and politico are just commie fronts with soros sponsoring the last two.

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Sep 2, 2016 11:21:58   #
vernon
 
moldyoldy wrote:
Bush/cheney created their own intelligence reporting group, so that they could take all the debunked intel and pretend it was real. That is how they got people to vote for the Iraq war, using lies.



you either are lying or stupid g tenent was the head of the cia and giving him intel.he was a holder from ol bill group.this was a big screwup of w along with paulson who was also a demorat. did you happen to notice the timing of the economic collapse just days before election.

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Sep 2, 2016 15:15:58   #
Loki Loc: Georgia
 
vernon wrote:
hey you forgot about ol bill giving n korea the electronics that made their missiles operable and the ability to build an atomic weapon.and hillery selling russia our uranium stores to for a nice donation to her foundation.and as far as ny times ,politfact and politico are just commie fronts with soros sponsoring the last two.


What Hillary did was to sell the Uranium to a Canadian cut out company, that had done business with the Clinton Foundation, and THEY sold it to the Russians. Billary getting paid a half million bucks for a couple of speeches in Mother Russia along about that same time was, of course, another one of those "coincidences" that keep happening around that witch, and so many other Liberals.

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Sep 2, 2016 17:47:35   #
moldyoldy
 
vernon wrote:
you either are lying or stupid g tenent was the head of the cia and giving him intel.he was a holder from ol bill group.this was a big screwup of w along with paulson who was also a demorat. did you happen to notice the timing of the economic collapse just days before election.


At A congressional hearing examining the march to war in Iraq, Republican congressman Walter Jones posed "a very simple question" about the administration's manipulation of intelligence: "How could the professionals see what was happening and nobody speak out?"

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powell's former chief of staff, responded with an equally simple answer: "The vice president."
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/12/leadup-iraq-war-timeline

Lies, Fraud and Deception to Promote War in Iraq

Don't buy the Bush spin that the lies about Iraq are only "16 words" -- the administration lied, deceived or committed outright fraud about every single point they used to justify invading Iraq (except to say that Saddam was an evil man.)

The "16 words" spin reveals just how shameless their lies are. Short lies don't matter? Well, Clinton got impeached for just 8 words -- "I did not have sex with that woman." Even by that ridiculous standard, Bush is twice as big a liar as Bill Clinton.

The uranium allegation (the "16 words") is famous because the fraud is so obvious. That charge, which Bush stated directly in his State of the Union speech, was based on blatantly forged documents -- one purported to be from a Niger official, to himself. The Bush Administration knew they were forged. They had been told several times that the charges were false, including by our own CIA and State Department. Bush and his top aides fought to put the words back in his speech, using weaselly phrasing -- Defense Secretary Rumsfeld has actually argued that the statement wasn't a lie because Bush didn't SAY Iraq did try to buy uranium, he just said "British intelligence HAS LEARNED that they tried to buy uranium." Once again, Bush imitates Clinton, arguing about what the meaning of "is" is.

Before considering each of the dozens of individual deceptions, lies and misleading statements that Bush and his aides used to push the US into war in Iraq, let's not lose track of the big picture. The Bush administration justified war, immediate war, because alleged weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Those weapons do not exist. They have not existed for years. The Bush adminstration knew this, because a top Iraqi defector told us this over 4 years ago, but they kept that information secret. And weapons of mass destruction were not the reason the Bush administration wanted to invade Iraq. Top officials have even admitted this, saying flat out that they had other reasons but chose WMD because it was the most effective argument politicially.

There were many other deceptive charges by the Bush administration -- about unmanned drones, orders to use chemical weapons, aluminum tubes, links between Iraq and Al Qaeda, etc. But don't forget the big picture. The Bush administration knew that there were no WMD in Iraq. They deliberately and consistently lied to the American people about this, to justify war in Iraq. And 300 US soldiers have died as a result.
http://realchange.org/bushjr.htm#Iraq

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