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Nov 1, 2013 10:25:49   #
Artemis
 
If everyone is insured then hospital costs “should “come down, considering the uninsured will become a relative small percent of the pool.
A present contention with ACA is that the young are paying the higher premiums,and not getting on board. I'm not sure how accurate that is considering the ACA is very much income based.

I have also heard the argument of how the younger population is healthier, which may be true,but they are also more accident prone,and have young children which makes the need for insurance essential.
But my main point is that young people will eventually get older, allowing their turn to come, and in time the balance.

Insurance is a cost, it is a financial cost you may never need. It 's the same for car insurance,fire insurance,term life insurance,and health insurance. We pay for it, for the comfort of "what if",and to sleep at night knowing we have a support net under us.

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Nov 1, 2013 12:04:09   #
emarine
 
maelstrom wrote:
If everyone is insured then hospital costs “should “come down, considering the uninsured will become a relative small percent of the pool.
A present contention with ACA is that the young are paying the higher premiums,and not getting on board. I'm not sure how accurate that is considering the ACA is very much income based.

I have also heard the argument of how the younger population is healthier, which may be true,but they are also more accident prone,and have young children which makes the need for insurance essential.
But my main point is that young people will eventually get older, allowing their turn to come, and in time the balance.

Insurance is a cost, it is a financial cost you may never need. It 's the same for car insurance,fire insurance,term life insurance,and health insurance. We pay for it, for the comfort of "what if",and to sleep at night knowing we have a support net under us.
If everyone is insured then hospital costs “should... (show quote)


It seems the cause of very expensive health care is the uninsured....so they say... To cover this cost doctors and hospitals must charge a much higher rate .... so they say.... The ACA is a plan to insure everyone so the cost of health care drops causing insurance premium's to drop also.... sounds pretty simple to me....The fact that most doctors and hospitals are for profit business that can take a tax deduction for uninsured now pretty much tells the story.... The uninsured were paid for either way ... the old system was from tax deduction dollars... the new ACA system .... written by constrictive Republicans.... Holds the individual tax payer responsible to pay for himself and if they cant afford it its back to tax dollars... The ACA should work.... if given a fair shake.... to drop some tax burden from the treasury and make for profit hospital and doctors pay in more taxes.....Might it be that the for profit doctors and hospitals have good accountants and like the old system better?

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Nov 2, 2013 05:23:44   #
BigMike Loc: yerington nv
 
maelstrom wrote:
If everyone is insured then hospital costs “should “come down, considering the uninsured will become a relative small percent of the pool.
A present contention with ACA is that the young are paying the higher premiums,and not getting on board. I'm not sure how accurate that is considering the ACA is very much income based.

I have also heard the argument of how the younger population is healthier, which may be true,but they are also more accident prone,and have young children which makes the need for insurance essential.
But my main point is that young people will eventually get older, allowing their turn to come, and in time the balance.

Insurance is a cost, it is a financial cost you may never need. It 's the same for car insurance,fire insurance,term life insurance,and health insurance. We pay for it, for the comfort of "what if",and to sleep at night knowing we have a support net under us.
If everyone is insured then hospital costs “should... (show quote)


Demographically speaking, that may take a long time, and its the baby boomers whose rising numbers are approaching retirement. In terms of sheer math I think we'd have to have had another baby boom sometime in the 70s or 80s for it to work, but we've aborted about a 5th of the current population since Roe vs Wade. There's a price to pay for everything.

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Nov 2, 2013 20:53:28   #
Mikki Loc: Ohio
 
emarine wrote:
It seems the cause of very expensive health care is the uninsured....so they say... To cover this cost doctors and hospitals must charge a much higher rate .... so they say.... The ACA is a plan to insure everyone so the cost of health care drops causing insurance premium's to drop also.... sounds pretty simple to me....The fact that most doctors and hospitals are for profit business that can take a tax deduction for uninsured now pretty much tells the story.... The uninsured were paid for either way ... the old system was from tax deduction dollars... the new ACA system .... written by constrictive Republicans.... Holds the individual tax payer responsible to pay for himself and if they cant afford it its back to tax dollars... The ACA should work.... if given a fair shake.... to drop some tax burden from the treasury and make for profit hospital and doctors pay in more taxes.....Might it be that the for profit doctors and hospitals have good accountants and like the old system better?
It seems the cause of very expensive health care i... (show quote)


I thought the Democrats wrote the bill. Only one Republican v**ed for it and I believe he was v**ed out in his next e******n. Also, hospitals are already saying they will not honor ACA and no longer accept Medicare. Mayo Clinic and Cleveland Clinic both announced they will not be servicing patients under these plans, along with some others. How can a $1700 a month premium and a $12,000 deductible help anyone unless they are terminal or have a disaster? ACA is a disaster. All they had to do was raise the ceiling on Medicaid to cover more people and let the rest of us keep the insurance we had. Simple solution. Now look at the mess we are in.

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